Debate week season 6! Day 1: Mothra Leo vs Battra!

HAH FIRST!

Sorrr Battra but Mothra leo would win.

i gotta disagree i think battra would win

From what I can make of this info, it appears as though Mothra Leo has the durability and speed advantage, but Battra has the power scale tipped in his favour. Ultimately, it seems as though Mothra Leo, despite not possessing quite as powerful attacks, could ultimately outlast Battra using his armor and speed, and then finish him off.

Sorry, Battra, but the Mothra with the stupid additional name would probably take this.

^As Yuki would say in Godzilla 2000, "Oh bite me."  Mothra Leo is awesome.

And he's winning this battle easily.  More firepower, more durability, more awesome.  I love Battra, but just like in his sole film appearence, he's going down.

This is so one sided it's not even funny. Battra might, and I mean might, have a chance against Leo's original form, based on how much bigger it is. But I don't think Leo would have to transform more than once to take out Battra. If at all.

If Mothra Leo transformed into Armored Mothra the battle would be over faster than her fight with King Ghidorah. It'd be like a Final Wars K.O.

Mothra leo is so ridiculously op he makes the heisei monsters look like puppies. Mothra wins this so convincingly you'd miss it if you blinked.

Battra has some chance at winning, but the battle is in favor of Mothra Leo.

Leo all the way! 

this isnt even a Fair figth, leo would win

Leo would destroy Battra, he has just to many powers/ forms he could change into to demolish Battra

Holy cow you all are blind! Mothra Leo is only 25 meters in length with a 50 meter wingspan. Battra is 70 meters in length with a 175 meter wingspan. Battras sole purpose was created to kill Mothra! I don't see this Mothra with or without the armor overcoming a monster almost twice it's size. Battra is just as quick as Mothra as well.

Triple B,
Mothra Leo's beaten monsters 2-3x its size four times in the Mothra trilogy. And three of those foes had three heads. No way Battra can stand up to that kind of speed and power.

Mothra Leo's sheer arsenal (which you need more than two hands to count) mixed with its speed would be a challenge for even the largest monsters in the Godzilla franchise. If Mothra Leo's armored form can cut off King Ghidorah's wing and make him look like the equivalent of Kamakiras in battle, Battra would be quickly added to the world's largest butterfly collection. (Assuming there would be anything left of Battra to pin to the board...)

@Gman2887,

You bring up an excellent point. However, don't forget that Battra in both larvae and adult form fought Godzilla to a stand still. Meaning he was smart enough to go to the melee method. If he did that then he can keep his ground with Mothra Leo.

However, that so called grand king ghidorah is nowhere near as big as king ghidorah in 1991. 30 meters to 150 meters.  If size doesn't mean sh$$ in battle then nothing does. As fast as Mothra Leo is, he will need that speed to run away from the battle he will have against Battra. 

Plus another key factor is the weight difference. If Battra gets Mothra Leo pinned to the ground, then his weight will suffocate the life out of Mothra Leo.

BigBadBen

Yes Battra is bigger, but from the movie hes in,he dosnt have a lot of powers, the only one hes got is his lazer eyes, which indeed are powerful, but Leos got like 10 more lazers in his arsenal, plus Battra was KOed when Godzilla threw him and blasted him 3-4 times, then he needed mothras help.

Heiseiking,

Powers aren't everything. Besides, the monsters Godzilla fought in the heisei films are far bigger, far heavier, and far more powerful than any of the other monsters he's encountered. Leo is damn powerful, very fast. I won't deny that. However, if you're bigger and heavier than your opponent, then the weight alone would be the difference maker. Best example, Gamera 120 tons, Godzilla 22,000-60,000 tons. Huge weight difference there. Battra is 33,000 tons if I'm not mistaken, while Mothra Leo is around I think about 3,000 tons. See the difference? It would be like an elephant stepping on and crushing a lion. Maybe not the best example but still.

Well this better not turn into argument or flame war.

It's debating....no flames needed. Besides, I was a moderator before I asked to have it removed so that I could get out to promote myself and my artwork. Anyway, I'm sticking with Battra. 

Oh ok. But anyway let's go back debating, KG from RoM is heavier than Battra so Leo could rekt Battra.

Triple B,
Leo is 5,900. A far cry from 33,000, but nothing that other monsters haven't overcome. Both Grand King Ghidorah and Cretaceous King Ghidorah were 50,000 tons and they plowed Leo into the ground with their feet. He still survived and had enough power to fly at light speed.

Grand King Ghidorah is also 60 meters, not 30. Granted that's a great deal smaller than the Heisei King Ghidorah, but no less durable. Also consider that Grand King Ghidorah had a larger arsenal than Heisei King Ghidorah, including mind control.

Sure, Battra went toe-to-toe with Godzilla, but I'm pretty confident Mothra Leo is one of the few monsters capable of defeating the Heisei Godzilla. And yes, that includes his Burning form. In fact I'd probably categorize Leo as the most powerful kaiju out there.

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Agree.

I think some of you are underestimating Battra.

I think Leo would still win but battra will put up a good fight and probably knock Leo around a fair bit. I wouldn't be a easy walk in the part for Leo.

Anyone who thinks Battra has a chance here needs to go watch the Mothra trilogy, if you've already seen it watch it again. Mothra can fly so fast he can go through time. That's Flash level amounts of speed. Mothra Leo is a lightning fast beam machine. Battra may be bigger, but that wouldn't matter since he would never have time to react to Mothra's attacks. 

^That's just it Durp. A lot of people here have not seen the Mothra trilogy and really can't get a feel for how powerful and fast she is from just a list of accomplishments. Mothra Leo doesn't only beat her enemies, she doesn't let them breathe. Granted in a couple of cases she has to get new forms to do it, but once she's in those forms... game over.

I've seen the trilogy. It's been awhile but I have seen them. 

@Gman2887,

Leo beats burning Godzilla? Let's not forget that Godzilla has melted a mirror made of synthetic diamond, caused super mechagodzilla armor plate to melt. Burning Godzillas heat is enough to melt that armor of Mothra. The hotter he got, the hotter his atomic breath got. Oh! The other thing is if he were to melted down, he would have taken the earth with him.

I see your point though and thanks for the corrections. I guess you're right about Battra losing this fight.

Knowing Mothra leo if it ever encountered burning Godzilla it would probably just change into some sort of ice Mothra, or freezing mothra to beat it. That sounds stupid but after Mothra Leo got a swimming form in the second movie I wouldn't count anything out.

Uhh...Durp004, have you forgotten that Godzilla eventually melted the ice he was covered in by the super x3? Sure it took several hours, but it was sub-zero temperatures. 

No, it's not stupid to think that they couldn't have added a freezing power to Mothra. All I'm saying is, if they can add that kind of power to a monster like Mothra, then why not for Godzilla? He is the one that brought life to other kaijus after all. Except king kong of course.  Why not make others just as powerful? 

The thing is Leo has proven on multiple occasions that it can adapt to exactly what it needs in order to defeat his enemy. Add to that Mothra Leo's Armored form is impervious to all energy attacks. I don't think it's a stretch to believe Armored Mothra could stand up to Burning Godzilla's constant Spiral Ray. Afterall, Super X-III did.

As for the "what-ifs" for either monster, I'm not going to go too far into that simply because we don't know. But what we do know is that Mothra Leo has more forms than most "adult" monsters (probably all adult monsters) and each one gets more ridiculously powerful than the next. Her finishing move (Excel Dash Buster) is like an Ultraman finisher-- King Ghidorah was literally sprinkled into the wind. I don't see how that wouldn't work with Godzilla. Lets be honest, the only reason Mothra Leo didn't lead with that attack was because he was using King Ghidorah as a bath toy.

Well actually Mothra leo is male

He's mothras son