Oct-14-2019 12:25 PM
You can really feel the weight and power of the blows/punches.
Also, the atomic breaths were really strong and heavy, and showed a sense of POWER!
Gomi: Ninja Monster #TeamMothra
Oct-14-2019 1:08 PM
Wow, that was a lot more visceral than I expected, the way they squirmed and shook and moved was spot-on, kudos. I was kind of expecting Shin to be a little less mobile, given his movie, but this was really good all the same.
Oct-14-2019 1:50 PM
But this is the potential it had! Jesus Christ! Why couldn't they have put even a little effort into it? Why?!!
Gomi: Ninja Monster #TeamMothra
Oct-14-2019 2:04 PM
Something about keeping it grounded and not going all in on fanservice or other similar excuses. Honestly if it weren't Godzilla, I would've said the anime made some cool choices with it's monsters, they are really creative decisions that shake up the formula. But since it was Godzilla, there's a certain level of monster action that's expected, and turning things into cities or space noodles is not conducive to brawls. BUT EVEN THEN, there were still ways to have the cake and eat it too, like have Godzilla actually stomp through the city and have it rebuild and fight back, or yank Ghidorah through the portals and finish him on earth, but I guess we can't always have nice things.
Oct-14-2019 2:14 PM
Gomi: Ninja Monster
If they did the Mechagodzilla City thing and portal thing, but still finished it off like an ACTUAL Godzilla film, or have Mechagodzilla City fight back in some sort of way and regrowing, causing a long, arduous battle between it and Godzilla... I'd be applauding even more than if it was more true to a Godzilla film. It would have been amazing! I mean, the people would have still been weird and annoying to me, but god it would have been so worth it! Instead... we got a ghost city destroyed in two beams and space noodles that couldn't even really fight much... and Mothra was just friggin teased at! They kept teasing us with a Kaiju fight... if you aren't going to have a fight, at least don't tease it!
Oct-14-2019 4:12 PM
I love Legendary Godzilla, he might not be hip with those fancy shamancy beam attacks but he is a brute with a purpose
Oct-14-2019 4:47 PM
Your banners are rather nice, but work on the scaling a little more. The proportions are seriously WACK on your banners. No offense, just my critique.
Titan of Water #TeamGodzilla
Oct-14-2019 4:50 PM
Hey GMK! Sorry I’ve been gone for awhile I’ve been doing a lot of research for Wikizilla. Anyway I’m having trouble trying to connect to Godzilla Extinction on google docs, could you send me the link again or something?
Oct-14-2019 4:52 PM
Me, Lazy, and Flyleaf CANNOT get onto the document. We suspect that only Dante has access to the doc because he's the owner.
Oct-14-2019 8:55 PM
shin ain't got shit on Legendary Godzilla. First off shin should turn to stone after firing it's Ray so Godzilla could just crush the statue, and second Legendary Godzilla kills shin on every level to the point where shin isn't even a true Godzilla. Zilla was a better Godzilla. Godzilla better kill shin and ally with Ghidorah. Fucking bullshit we even got shin to begin with when Toho promised us a Godzilla. Upsetting that everyone always fucks over King Ghidorah. Let Ghidorah escape and have Godzilla kill shin PLEASE!!!!!
Oct-14-2019 9:07 PM
I mean... his atomic breath is a lot more powerful than Legendary's, enough he could probably pierce Legendary's hide with it pretty easily. Shin can also adapt to almost any condition, even to become smaller. If he loses, he can just adapt to the perfect legendary killing weapon. Legendary's main advantage is speed and melee...
Also... Zilla? Shin Godzilla was meant to be true to the IDEA of Godzilla, not to the form per say. Zilla wasn't even true to that.
... what does screwing over Ghidorah have to do with anything? Most Kaiju fans LOVE Ghidorah...
But let's just agree to disagree on that one, I guess...
Oct-14-2019 9:23 PM
I don't think there is one true idea of Godzilla. I mean if Shin Godzilla was a True Godzilla it wouldn't take until 2016 to make a "true Godzilla"
Zilla was supposed to be a more realistic take on Godzilla because in real-life something like Shin Godzilla couldn't possibly exist, kaiju size not withstanding, a multi-cellar organism rapidly "evolving" like a virus is unscientific.
Oct-14-2019 9:27 PM
I meant to say if Shin Godzilla was the True Godzilla idea of Godzilla why did it take until 2016 to make it so?
Oct-14-2019 9:38 PM
Well, it's more like Shin Godzilla was supposed to be true to the initial idea of Godzilla, something born from the mistakes of man, wreaks devastation as a consequence of our actions and can only be killed through some special kind of weapon that would only worsen humanity's fate because of our innate need to create weapons out of even the most harmless of things.
The reason it took until 2016 is because most movies between the original and Shin Godzilla made Godzilla into a kind of hero or anti-hero, instead of a villain born from our own mistakes and most of what it does is OUR fault.
Also, I meant ORIGINAL idea of Godzilla, not the whole idea. Sorry about that.
Oct-15-2019 5:10 AM
Zilla partially covers this original idea granted he was killed off by F-18s, he has similar origins to Godzilla 1954. I still consider Zilla a type of Godzilla
Gomi: Ninja Monster #TeamMothra
Oct-15-2019 6:49 AM
As much as I loved Legendary, I honestly never thought for a second he would win. Shin's beam attacks are just too OP, I was frankly surprised he didn't end up sliced to pieces.
It was definitely a drastic departure from the norm, but I actually ended up considering Shin one of my favorite G-flicks. Now granted, I actually enjoyed the human political drama, which I understand is really boring for some, but aside from that it's objectively a pretty well-executed film, even if the monster design isn't to your liking. I'd argue something more like Godzilla's Revenge is worse from a filmmaking perspective, but as far as preference goes each is entitled to their own opinion, so I won't press the issue.
Oct-15-2019 7:19 AM
Godzilla's revenge is good for kids and it dont take the Reptile Dragon heritage from Godzilla. I agree shin is the worst film ever. I was frankly super pissed Legendary got a scratch from shin. Legendary Godzilla should not be affected by shin's o.p. Laser breath. Sure it looks more powerful but just because he uses it on the city. We NEVER seen the full potential of Godzilla's breath first off seeing he never used it on us and Godzilla can turn into fire Godzilla where shin would try to go to water and melt down instead got going fucking super sayian infinite. Legendary Godzilla should be invincible but they killed Dagon and broke out king's crown of plates to regenerate then into 54. Bullshit. He is immune to damage and immortal. Should just grow naturally. A true Dragon cannot be harmed. King Ghidorah rules! He should never loose a head or die. Legendary Heisei Mellenium and Showa. Fucking ALL DRAGONS ARE INVINCIBLE AND SHIN IS NO DRAGON. SAVE GHIDORAH HAIL TIAMAT!!!!
Oct-15-2019 7:42 AM
Sorry, but where do you get the idea that Legendary Godzilla is invincible? Both in 2014 and KotM, there are moments where Godzilla is either badly damaged, unconscious or almost killed.
Also, one thing I think most of us need to remember is that Shin Godzilla's atomic breath was designed to destroy cities and not to fight or defend from other monsters. So saying it is OP is really unfair to the person who made this fight possible.
Kamoebas V.6 #TeamRodan
Oct-15-2019 8:10 AM
Ah yes and Shin Godzilla's atomic breath is not op,final wars Godzilla's,Burning Godzilla's (1995),Godzilla earth's atomic breath is stronger.
Gomi: Ninja Monster #TeamMothra
Oct-15-2019 8:23 AM
@KaijuWorld: I may have phrased that poorly. I meant comparatively speaking, while in '14 and KoTM the beam attacks can be seen punching holes in buildings, they're relatively slow and kind of just slam into other monsters. In his movie, Shin's beam can slice through everything it touches with impunity. While I grant you kaiju hide is probably tougher than your average building, I personally don't see how Shin's attacks wouldn't just cut straight through Legendary like they do other large objects. And true, Shin would theoretically have to adapt to fighting monsters and would probably not make it out the first round with his current abilities. I'm not trying to undermine the exemplary work that went into this animation, it is a fantastic spectacle, I'm just saying that I imagined the specifics of the fight a little differently.
Oct-15-2019 8:28 AM
You know what else was awesome in that video?
*Spoilers Ahead* (YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!)
That Monsterverse Ghidorah reference at the end. That was amazing. Can't wait for Part 2 to see what's next.
Oct-15-2019 9:10 AM
That's burning Godzilla, one of the strongest atomic breaths ever seen. Also, Legendary can only go into burning in VERY select conditions. His atomic breath has a much shorter range, and he can only do it from one angle while Shin could use it from almost any angle possible. Also, we've seen Legendary Godzilla's atomic breath accidentally hit a building, and it destroys the building as if though he were "pushing" it over, so it's more of a kinetic force thing than the lazerish thing we see with Shin. Shin Godzilla's breath, however, cut straight through multiple buildings in a row with no signs of stopping. It cut straight through steel, concrete, just about everything in its path.
Also... dragon? In no origin story, to my knowledge, is Godzilla a dragon... Dinosaur in one, but not dragon. And why the heck would shin turn to water? And if he did get all that radiation, HE WOULD ADAPT. He would adapt to either A. be able to handle that much radiation or B. use that radiation to make himself a lot stronger. Also, who says he would "meltdown" from going burning?
Oct-15-2019 10:59 AM
Also... since when was any Godzilla invincible? Every single incarnation has either died or sustained damage at some point, especially Legendary. I mean, he almost got killed by two mutos for christ's sake! He almost got killed by a human weapon! And dragons aren't really invincible either in the Godzilla universe... especially not Ghidorah... RIP King Ghidorah... And Keizer Ghidorah... And Desghidorah... And Grand King Ghidorah...
Oct-15-2019 11:30 AM
That's what ima sayin boi! Well... technically isn't true. Armor Mothra is just one of Mothra Leo's forms... but you already know that and I'm just being a technically correct arsehole XD
G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah
Oct-15-2019 12:24 PM
Rainbow Mothra, Aqua Mothra, Lightspeed Mothra, Armored Mothra and Eternal Mothra are all just the names of different forms for Mothra Leo.