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Kyero

Dec-14-2013 7:01 PM

This is less of a discussion and more of a statement, but feel free to comment and share your thoughts all the same.

 

So there's been some speculation that Godzilla's going to be MASSIVE. I think no less than two threads have the number 779' as their "official" fan estimation on Godzilla's size, and that number is a load of bull.

I can prove it too by sharing with you an interview with Gareth Edwards and IGN where they discuss Godzilla's size near the end of the interview.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/07/19/godzilla-interview-gareth-edwards-comic-con-2013

Edwards says plainly that his Godzilla is the "tallest there's ever been, but, just about." He mentions how certain buildings that were the tallest in the world such as the Empire State Building and then the Chrysler Building were outdone little by little over the years by others around the world, and that's what he's done with his Godzilla. Godzilla 2014 is going to see Godzilla be taller than ever before, but not by so much that it's ungainly.

Gareth goes on to say that if you make him too big *cough* 779' *cough*, you lose the ability to really tell a story and you lose the connection of a more modestly sized creature. He also states that they did "loads of tests for the size" and that they didn't pick it out at random just to make him bigger. 779' seems like a pretty random number to me, even if it is the official height of the 555 building in San Fran.

Honestly guys? 779'?

So with all due respect to those who enjoy discussing which skyscrapers he's going to stare down, I can safely say that the answer is "none of them." Godzilla is going to be bigger than ever before, but as I've said so many times on several threads, he's not likely to exceed about 440-480 feet at absolute maximum. The chances he'll even reach that height are quite slim if what Gareth said is to be believed.

In truth, his height is much more likely to range between the already established heights of 110-140 meters.

779' is outrageous, and not in a good way. We all know Godzilla's going to be the tallest one ever, but if he were that big there'd be no way to hide him among the skyscrapers of San Francisco and we'd have seen him in the trailer throughout the entire opening sequence as the soldiers are falling towards the city. There'd be no point in hiding him in the smoke and darkness of the burning city under a storm because it wouldn't be possible. At 779', there's no way to hide Godzilla from view and no way to prevent us from seeing his full design without any interference. Storm and burning city or no, 779' would show us the entire design in eloquent detail regardless of the angle of the camera.

So please, put an end to this ridiculous 779' stuff. It's completely radical (not in a good way) and all it does is incite needless arguments and sprout false rumors which do your fellow G-fans a disservice rather than a service.

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21 Responses to Godzilla's Size Debate Ended

True American Godzilla

Dec-14-2013 7:46 PM

I only posted the 779' ESTIMATE because I saw something in the OFFICIAL TRAILER that rattled my own opinion of the American Godzilla size.

 

At first, I was like you that our Godzilla would be around 400-500' tall but had nothing official to even suggest Godzilla is this big. I also had heard that Edwards wanted big but not too big. Considering how many skyscrapers are in San Fracisco, where it has loads of 400s-600s foot tall buildings, figuring out what height is big enough to be seen YET not so tall that Godzilla can't hide is tough.

 

Say Godzilla was 780' tall when standing upright, it would be JUST taller than the 600+ foot tall buildings we have in San Francisco. In today's world, our major cities has such huge buildings that Godzilla at 328' tall (100 meters) would completely disappear in (depending on where in the city).

 

Now I freely admit my size ESTIMATION of 780' is off. This was using the building the viewer was falling towards staring out at Godzilla. I was hoping for something to be right next to the American Godzilla to identify and use its size to determine Godzilla's size. However the ending scene (where Godzilla's claw goes above a building before turning to roar) doesn't help. The building was destroyed for one thing so I can even begin to speculate its original shape or size. That's why the 555 Street Building is our first REAL HINT to the size of the American Godzilla. I NEVER said this was the official size, just a SIZE ESTIMATION!

I believe in Jesus Christ, who's my Lord and Savior.

John 3:16, Job 41:1-34, Leviticus 18:22

Lyuztaven

Dec-14-2013 7:59 PM

I've always thought that 237 meters (779 feet) is just way too much, and yeah, it's outrageous just to think Godzilla would be that size.

Now I realize that was just speculation (after all we are still making estimations) but let's imagine if Godzilla's height was that, now imagine if that Godzilla were to fight King Ghidorah... How tall would that King Ghidorah have to be in order to keep his usual size advantage?! That guy would be like over 300 meters tall!!! It would dwarf enourmous kaiju such as Biollante, Legion and Slattern so much that it would be simply ridiculous.

Kaijus of that size (+230 meters) wouldn't even be able to walk in the streets, they just try to walk and basically become giant bulldozers bringing down the whole block of buildings in their way with them. Personally I agree on the 110-140 meters estimation. But, Who knows?

True American Godzilla

Dec-14-2013 8:12 PM

@LYUTAVEN: As I said, this was my recent estimation based on the official trailer at that paratrooper scene.

San Francisco is in an earthquake region, so I'd assume the buildings would withstand (to a degree) severe earthquake shaking. This could make them survive longer when Godzilla walks around.

 

I will freely drop this size as soon as I get a better scene (or leaked image) to give a clue to the overall size of Godzilla.

I believe in Jesus Christ, who's my Lord and Savior.

John 3:16, Job 41:1-34, Leviticus 18:22

Lyuztaven

Dec-14-2013 8:36 PM

@TRUE AMERICAN GODZILLA

Well just to clarify (because I didn't stated it anywhere on my last post), and now that I read the post where you estimate Godzilla's size, I'm not discarding entirely the possibility that a Godzilla of such size could be the one we will see in the final film. If that's the case then I think Gareth exagerated a little trying to create the biggest Godzilla ever seen, I personally wouldn't like it that much, but I have to admit that it would definitely be an impressive and jaw-dropping vision nevertheless. At the end all that matters is that it's still Godzilla.

kaijuoh

Dec-14-2013 8:48 PM

I know i've said it before but now I'm convinced...since this movie is going back to the feel of the original then i can completely see Godzilla being 400' tall. After all that's how tall we made him in the American dub.

GODZILLA HIMSELF

Dec-14-2013 11:54 PM

considering that marvel comics godzilla was 150 meters, the new godzilla will have to be somewhere above that. the biggest that i see him being is 20% taller at 185 meters. he would be bigger than many buildings but still able to hide.

king of the monsters

Mattzilla115

Dec-15-2013 11:23 AM

There is a certain size where a creature would be so huge, it would explode from the pressure inside it's body. 779' is out of the question, and would be too unbelievable. Godzilla is already unbelievable(unless you look at the book of revelations),which is why I love Godzilla, and this is a realistic take on Godzilla not a WWK movie or zombie film. This movie is for us the fans, the AMERICAN fans (no offense to non-americans). I love the old films (except for Godzilla's Revenge, uhhhggg) and I respect them for their time, but this is a new legacy and generation for him. I for one am contempt with a 120-150 meter G.

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Gojira113

Dec-15-2013 12:05 PM

Godzilla is supposed to have a certain height between 120-180 ft not 779 that's too huge. That will make other monsters look puny like biollante. 

Alfok

Dec-15-2013 3:32 PM

monster comparison

Im glad to share with you my "monster size comparison" with very accurate data from movie webpages and wiki

click here to the full size image

QuantumGodzilla

Dec-15-2013 4:44 PM

Godzilla is going to be 200 meters tall. So there. Prove me wrong.

80sOGRE

Dec-15-2013 7:40 PM

when you watch the trailer's ending scene and the foreground buildings, you can gauge a size reference off his longest spine fin which i estimate at 6 floors high or around 18 metres ( almost 20 yards ) if ALFOK's post as a guide using our new measurement, we arrive at an estimated ball park figure of 145-150 mtrs.  awesome !

godzilla3580 #TeamGhidorah

Dec-15-2013 8:20 PM

@ALFOK, I think Slattern might be too big in that size comparison picture. 181 meters puts him at over twice the height of Gipsy Danger. In the movie, he is not nearly that tall. I think that 181 meters might be his length instead of height. Not trying to be mean or anything, I just thought he looked a little exaggerated next to poor little Otachi haha.

Biderbeck

Dec-16-2013 2:41 AM

a creature with the ability to grow to that size should in all likelihood have the ability to adapt to being that size so all this rigmarole about the creature's exploding from the pressure with its own body is invalid.

Lyuztaven

Dec-16-2013 7:54 AM

MATTZILLA115 Said: "This movie is for us the fans, the AMERICAN fans..."

Yeah guys! This movie is made for AMERICANS! You know, that is, Canadians, Brazilians, Argentinians, Chileans, Jamaicans, Barbadians, Mexicans... Oh wait!

Anyways, I thought we were discussing Godzilla's size... alright, hmmm... yeah.

doggiezilla

Dec-16-2013 12:55 PM

why is godzilla not the king of japan

BCrockett94

Dec-17-2013 3:21 AM

I don't get how they came up with 779'.

Gareth says "just a bit bigger"

them: "just a bit bigger= doubling Godzilla's current largest size".

Yeah, that's not much bigger at all.

Alfok

Dec-17-2013 10:02 AM

@GODZILLA3580 In "Pacific Rim: Man, Machines, and Monsters" book, its official, it says "HEIGHT" instead of "LENGHT" take a look Slattern size

As i said, I searched for very accurate info. I know in motion picture their sizes may change but Im based in official info stats for every monster

dfresh55

Dec-18-2013 2:48 PM

Kyero, you shouldn't tell people they are wrong in thinking that Godzilla will be the same height as the 555 Building in San Francisco. All we have to go on right now is the official trailer. And judging by the trailer, he is as tall as that building. And IT IS that building because it has a distinct roof shape. And of course they won't show Godzilla in the first wide shot of the San Fran skyline because they wanted to save the Godzilla reveal for the first-person view from the paratroopers goggles. As far as the only proof we have to go on, you are wrong until proven otherwise. No matter what Gareth Edwards said in the interview.

RR44 #TeamGodzilla

Jan-15-2014 6:32 PM

From my perspective... and its a guess at best.. I do not believe ANYONE said that Godzilla is 779 feet... but rather the Bank of America building that in the trailer.. you see Godzilla walking past. With that being said... the trailer shows him walking like a typical dinosaur.. slightly haunched over and in motion. I would say based on the fact that he is not standing upright... that his height is close to 500 feet. This godzilla is massive. The idea that if he were too big that he would explode under the pressure from his mass is silly. In theory.. such a creature could grow that large and have a physiollogy that would be proportional to its size. it would not be beyond the realm of possibilties. after all.. dinosuars were way larger than man and the gravity of the earth did'nt affect them the way thay some scientist would have us believe. If Godzilla has out of control cellular growth in all areas of his genetic make up.. and is able to adapt to it over time.. then it would not be any different then say a baby.. who starts at 23 inches at birth and grows to 7 feet 5 inches by the time they are 30 years old.. and plays basketball and or football and moves with great agility and power. and gravity does not really have anything to do with that.. its all in the development of their body. As in the case with Godzilla.. we could conclude that his body devloped over time and in such a way as to accomodate his size and weight. This is a sound premise. The question some want to know is.. could this happen for real.. the answer is yes. and certain types of radioactivity can cause cellular mutation. In humans its deadly.. for we did not develope and grow from conception with exposure to such things. but if we did.. we most likely would not survive.. however if we did.. we would be born with serious health issues and possibly have deformities. IF Godzilla is 500 or 600 feet tall.. so what.. he's big.. he' powerful.. and he's destructive. IF people are gonna watch watch this movie with a pre conceived idea that there is no way such a creature like this could exist because He's TOO BIG and thats not "realistic'.. well come on man.. ITS GODZILLA.. don't take it so seriously that you can't enjoy the film. Gareth Edwards may have said "grounded and realistic' and yet when you see the trailer and see him strolling by a 779 foot tall building and his head is mabey 100 feet shy of matching the height of that building.. then its safe to say that he's a little bit bigger than 400 feet tall.

gojifan02

Jan-15-2014 6:36 PM

I heard that Godzilla 2014is supost to be 645 ft. : whitch is 200 m.

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Alfok

Jan-19-2014 10:14 PM

Well, now we all know Godzilla's size is the same as Cloverfield... Im NOT dissapointed, 106 m height is a MASSIVE SIZE, bigger than the average Kaiju in PR

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