Kyero
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 11:35 AMI realize this topic has been covered a lot, but I thought I'd offer my take on it all the same. Some people seem to think that it'd be cool if it was more like the 1954 version where it was a stream of gas and others think it'd be best to have a beam. To be honest, a beam is really the only way to go. And there's a good reason as to why for all the die hard 54' fans who think the gas should come back.
So, a beam over a gas.
Why?
Because gas dissipates. What does that mean? It loses strength the farther away from Godzilla it gets. The farther it goes the more it dissipates and the less energy is being transferred successfully to the target. Godzilla's nuclear breath would basically be like a can of air freshener. Goes out a ways, then just disappears.
However, there's an argument to be made for the gas over the beam as far as practicality. As the gas dissipates, its particles remain and spread over wide areas. It's why a single spray of air freshener can make an entire room smell better. Because over time it covers a wide area as its particles go everywhere. Since Godzilla's thermonuclear breath could be gaseous, it could have the same effect. While it's not quite as intensely destructive or awe inspiring to look at, it's likely much more devastating to the environment and anything caught in the immediate area.
Still, I think that for the purposes of the movie the beam is the only way to go. They want to make him bigger and badder than ever, so a beam is really the best way to accomplish that. What will it look like in terms of its appearance? I have no idea, but if it's anything like the final few films such as Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, Tokyo S.O.S and Final Wars, then I'll be happy.
godzillafan1995
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 11:43 AMyeah, no offesnse and not being mean but this topic has been done like 5 times, like i have said the beam is the best one, a realistic vapour breath is boring, it would be dragonball evolution all over again. also you could combine the melting propaties of the vapour breath with the explosive beam to give a breath with a realitic effect.
godzillafan1995
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 11:48 AMwhen i mean the melting propaties i mean, you have the beam from gxmg and you upgrade the heat propaties, with the beam itself being so hot that it incinerates anything in contact of the beam and the heat 'around' the beam being hot enough to melt rocks and metal.
kaijugroupie84
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 2:05 PM@GodzillaFan1995, Do you mean "properties?" And I have to disagree with a beam, because this is not a Toho Godzilla therefore they probably won't go with a beam. They will probably go in the direction of a gas like the original and it will be used as more of a short range defense-mechanism. The reason I say that is because Edwards had stated that the fights would be like that of actual animals, not like the Toho fights that we're used to seeing.
godzillafan1995
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 2:15 PMthe gas just seems boring for a movie that will use A LOT of cgi, fire seems better than gas but thats stereotypical. thats like chaning the energy beams from dragonball and turning it into coloured air.... oh wait that already happened. i'm pretty sure that toho stated using a beam because the advancment of special/visual effects, plus as i keep saying a modern audience would prefer a beam over steam.
Linkman89
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 2:27 PMWhile the concept of the gas could be cool in that it could result in a radioactive firestorm (think afteraffect of a nuclear explosion) I can't see them going with the gas for one simple reason.
Gas was used in the older movies because, well, that's all they could do. An energy beam came about as special effects evolves, eventually culminating in Final Wars where Godzilla's beam was able to hit the meteor containing Space Monster X as it came in towards Tokyo. Since the gas was only used because that was the best special effect that could be mustered, I would be very surprised if they went with that concept.
godzillafan1995
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 2:33 PMexactly my point LINKMAN89, also it could work was because post ww2 japan was still using a lot of wood in housing which made it easier to destory with high tempreture attacks, but modern architecture would be very hard to light on fire with super heated gas.
Hazzardkitsune
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 3:08 PMWhy not go with a mix? A beam that gives off a high intensity irradiated gas?
GODZILLA HIMSELF
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 3:13 PMwhy not have the beam, but with gas and chemicals escaping from his mouth as well, as some kind of biproduct of him uing this ability, maybe something like in gmk where just as he fires his ray theres big wave of energy that shouts out to the sides. add some chemicals and gas to that and you have something that is foing to damage the enviroment of the surrounding area, followed by the super destructive thermonuclear ray. as far as what the reay itself looks like, im hoping for a cross between gmk and godzilla 2000(- the orange color). i also hope that things close to his spines will be damaged by the heat they emit. as for the heat around the beam melting things, with the beam itself just vaporizing whatever it touches, well i belive that there is evidence of that in the trailer, remember the building with the hole it it? the edges of the hole looks melted, and there is a rounded path in the gound in front of the building that continues from the hole.
king of the monsters
TheGMan123
MemberTitanosaurusFeb-03-2014 5:05 PMAs people have been stating, a beam is the most logical to display the sheer power associated with such an exotic ability only possible with nuclear biology like Godzilla's. However, gas is still good for complementary effects. For example, near his mouth, gas begins forming up, which is in itself severely scalding hot. After he lets loose the devastating beam of instant vaporization (which means no fancy explosions everywhere unless it's logically supposed to explode), ultra-heated gas eminates from the outer rim of the beam that can catch nearby objects on fire. The air following the end of this attack should also still be filled with lethal amounts of heat and radioactivity from lingering gases and other equally nasty effects.
godzillafan1995
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 5:15 PMgood, you guys got the better idea combining the best of both worlds. love it
Akio123
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 5:26 PMI can only hope that his breath just vaparizes anything it touches, and leaves a lethal amount of lasting radiation as apposed to just..blowing stuff up.
ゴジラ 2014 Rules
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 8:15 PMIt would be jus like this looks like gas and beam Gojira SM.jpg (553×720) and
blog_godzilla_colour.jpg (636×800) Atomic breath 03.png (260×156)godzilla-atomic-breath.jpg (450×208) Godzilla71.jpg (400×273)g2000 atomic_breath.jpg (900×554) maybe not the last one but it kinda does
Linkman89
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-03-2014 8:38 PMI feel like what a lot of you is describing is the effect from GMK... as he's charging you see the gas/energy gather towards his mouth and then when he fires there's a straight forward beam but then there's also like a brief energy/gas circle shooting out from around his head like a local shock wave.