ZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

I absolutely hate Zilla compared to Godzilla, yet I respect him and Zilla Jr alot in their OWN right. I respect Zilla as if he is a separate monster with no relation to Godzilla whatsoever. It would be cool If Zilla is rebooted as if he is a completely different monster. I also think Gareth should introduce him as another Kaiju in Godzillas prehistoric time. A 200 ft tall piscivore creature who scavenges if it must. A subspecies is biologically (excuse my spelling If wrong) more closely related to Godzillas being 300 ft tall, good durability and atomic breath ( Zilla Jr reference). So yeah Zilla vs Godzilla is a big NO. Zilla as a completely different monster with its own movie, YES. 

this is still a popular topic well tunahead has more fans then i knew but still his design and everything is horrible in my own opinion i will always say the same thing same to zilla jr just horrible please understand my opinions but still if you like him theres no reason to stop liking him keep loving what you love to each his own

Tolerance,and maybe eh a little,little bit of respect

Zilla is a good monster but a horrible abomination of godzilla. I will give it RESPECT as a stand alone monster but I shall SHAME it as a Godzilla.

I recently rewatched the 1998 film after not having seen it for years.

I wanted to see it as objectively as possible in spite of the consensus in the fandom regarding its place (or lack thereof) in the lore that is Godzilla. So, I'm looking for strengths, and I find some parts that are actually enjoyable. Right out of the box, there's David Arnold's theme for the opening credits. Very atmospheric, with the nuclear explosions and the reptiles in French Polynesia looking up at the fireballs.

So far, so good.

Then, there's the attack on the Japanese fishing/canning ship in the Pacific, culminating with the Tail smacking the ship's superstructure. Very good opening, I thought.

Then things start to fall apart. The not funny at all running gag about the apparent inability of people to pronounce 'Tatapolous.' It was so obvious after the fourth or fifth time. Then, the old Japanese crewmember being able to somehow understand English when an open cigarette lighter is waved in front of him. "What did you see, old man?" "Gojira."

Of course.

I thought the aerial of the giant footsteps across Panama was a neat visual, conveying size and mass without any dialogue. It, was here. 

Then, the people start talking. Earlier on there was Nick Tatapolous singing (?) "Singing in the Rain" during his earthworm hunt at Chernobyl. Then there's the infatuation that Dr. Elsie Chapman has for the 'Worm Guy." It's cringe worthy. But, it's followed, again, by a nice visual. It's the shipwreck in the Caribbean, clawed and evidential of a giant beast. We run into the mysterious Philippe Roach (Jean Reno) again. Actually, his character was interesting and convincingly motivated. He said he was patriot who loved his country. But he sometimes had to save his country from itself. Actually, it was memories of his character that led to me to want to watch Godzilla again.

If you remove or, at least, drastically alter some of the other characters, redesign Godzilla and make him act like Godzilla, the film would have been a lot more watchable. It would have been interesting to have seen a more developed storyline involving the French secret service agents. Maybe not played so much for laughs, but with real danger and adventurous tension. Perhaps to have had these foreign agents actually at odds and in conflict with the American military personnel would have added a darkness to the film that would have afforded some needed weight to the story. But this would have been at odds with tongue-in-cheek, parody approach that the filmmakers took with their film. It’s obvious from their work, and even their statements, that they did not take Godzilla, the pop icon and character, seriously. You cannot do justice to, let alone present in an entertaining and profound way, a subject you hold in contempt. This is what makes Roland Emmerich’s Godzilla so hard to watch. What they needed was oversight from someone emotionally invested in the series throughout the project if artistic credibility and authenticity was to be preserved. But, as is painfully obvious, this was not the objective. The goal was to make a mindless, summer blockbuster and sell as many toys and t-shirts as possible. The work of Ishiro Honda, Eiji Tsuburaya and Tomoyuki Tanaka did figure in the approach of the director and producer of this film.

To fans, this is unthinkable. Perhaps, for the casual movie viewer, it doesn’t matter as much. But this is Godzilla. He cannot be reduced to being a plot development in a film that bears his name. He’s the King of the Monsters.

After watching the dispatching of Godzilla on the Brooklyn Bridge in the Emmerich film, I was convinced that what I had actually seen was a remake of The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms. And the original was better. Much better.

I think I’ll watch the Ray Harryhausen and Eugene Lourie classic this weekend, God willing.

On the other hand, if we keep the basic Tatapolous design, with some modifications, as well as the speed and agility, Zilla, the kaiju assasin might work. I remember getting this impression, character concept wise, when looking at some drawings of the Tatapolous monster. If we make the titular monster from the 1998 film one who uses his speed and ability to move quickly as tactical weapons rather than to run from the military, than you have the makings for a horror-monster film. What if he was able to blend in with his surroundings, a la Predator? Some of the drawings I saw conveyed the potential for being vicious. If he's scary, and totally unsympathetic, unrelenting and a killer, you may cross, somewhat, into another genre's territory, but it would be a story that would force people to take it seriously because they wouldn't know what he would do next.

This, would be a monster truly on the loose and too fast to catch, with the ability to evade visual detection because it could blend into the background. No egg-laying and being suseptible to being lured by fish. He can't be 'just an animal.' A kaiju, which literally means, 'mysterious creature,' is something which by it's very nature defies explanation, easy or difficult.

With Zilla being portrayed in this manner, the ending has to be different. No cheering, high-fives and we all live happily ever after. A monster with the aforementioned characteristics would put everyone and everything at risk.

That's how I would have liked to have seen the Tatapolus designed used based on concept drawings I've seen.

This is what I meant in reference to the the last post

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