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What do you think is the most overrated Godzilla movie and Kaiju?

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Deadite Kaiju

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 4:58 AM

There are actually two Godzilla movies which I think are the most overrated. This is just my opinion so don't hate me for saying this. The first most overrated in my opinion is, Invasion of the Astro Monster or otherwise knows as Godzilla vs Monster Zero. I don't dislike it, I just think it needed more of Godzilla and a lot of people seem to absolutely love it. Now I know I might get a bit of hate for saying this but don't forget this is just my opinion. Destroy All Monsters is the 2nd most overrated in the series. Don't get me wrong, I though it was pretty cool how it featured nearly every Godzilla monster in the one movie but the let down for me was; it had to do with the same old typical storyline about aliens trying to take over the earth and then they mind control all the monsters to make them obey their commands. I just thought that storyline was getting old and overused.

Now, for my most overrated Godzilla Kaiju. In my opinion it is Mechagodzilla. I like Mechagodzilla and I think he is pretty cool but all he is, is a giant robotic Godzilla clone. I don't think he is that special and for something as simple as a robot Godzilla, I find it a bit overrated.

Anyway, tell me what you guys think. If you disagree then that is fine. This is just my opinion and I am sure every one of you fellow G fans each share a different opinion to mine :)

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MonsterMovieguy

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 5:55 AM

The most overrated Godzilla film is Godzilla vs Destroyah. I know I'm also going to get hate for this but, to me this is an oradinary Godzilla film with Godzilla Heisei dying, nothing much and I waited to see Destroyah in his final form for most of the movie since I played the Godzilla game: "Godzilla: Save the Earth". beforehand. The most overrated Godzilla monster is Biollante. I haven't seen Godzilla vs Biollante yet. But to me, it's fat, orange-bellied, plant! 

Edit: Stratch that. Mothra's the most overrated monster of all time! It's just a giant moth!

"By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill that promise. They never will! Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people."

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusApr-01-2014 6:00 AM

I thought you were calling Godzilla overrated. Boy, if I didn't read past the title, we'd be argueing right now.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

Durp004

MemberBaragonApr-01-2014 6:22 AM

GMK. It changes godzilla into the souls of angry people but that's not the problem the problem is the reason why they're mad. Are they mad that japan is responsible for their deaths? God no that'd be a legit reason. No their reason is that Japan is forgetting about them. I'll say it again FORGETTING ABOUT THEM so they possess a giant monster and destroy their homes and families. That's the equivalent of my grandmother possessing a tornado and destroying my neighborhood because I don't think about her being dead enough. Then there's the attempt at arguing rocks can hold memories and comparing them to cds. The guardian monster are all weak 1 sided fights, not for 1 second did you think they had a chance against Godzilla with the biggest wound coming to his shoulder. Then Godzilla blows himself up. That's how he goes. Could have piloted the sub to his heart, or brain, but no poke a hole in his shoulder and he's done, because he will shoot his beam through his shoulder see it's going throug his shoulder, and then stop and do it again.

 

Most overrated monster is probably mothra. She's a good monster, but the amount of times she's used it just a recycled story. At least everytime Ghidorah shows up it's something new, mothra amost always centers around 1. the fairies getting stolen and 2. an older mothra dying and the younger one continuing the fight.

Devianteist

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 8:04 AM

Most overrated Godzilla movie? That'd have to be my favorite one.
Godzilla VS Destoroyah

As for most overrated monster, I'm torn between 5 at the moment:
Destoroyah (<-my favorite)
Mothra
MechaGodzilla
SpaceGodzilla
Anything with "Gidorah" in its name.

If I had to pick, I'd say Destoroyah. I love its design and his concept, but everything else is pretty bland, honestly. (It is based off of Aliens after all...)

Deviation is not shameful. Conforming is.

duckychill

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 9:25 AM

I'd have to agree with Destroy all Monsters, I do enjoy the movie but it's not nearly as good as the praise it gets. If it weren't for featuring so many different kaiju it wouldn't be held in such high esteem.

duckychill

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 9:25 AM

I'd have to agree with Destroy all Monsters, I do enjoy the movie but it's not nearly as good as the praise it gets. If it weren't for featuring so many different kaiju it wouldn't be held in such high esteem.

duckychill

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 9:25 AM

I'd have to agree with Destroy all Monsters, I do enjoy the movie but it's not nearly as good as the praise it gets. If it weren't for featuring so many different kaiju it wouldn't be held in such high esteem.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaApr-01-2014 9:35 AM

@Deadite Kaiju

It's funny you cite Monster Zero and Destroy All Monsters. I think the fact that Godzilla isn't in a lot of Monster Zero is exactly one of the reasons why the film is so good. Most Godzilla movies than tend to feature him less are better films.

As for Destroy All Monsters, I agree it's overrated, but I think part of the problem is it has too much Godzilla in it. The characters are complete bores.

There are a few I think deserve this title:

Mothra vs. Godzilla (1964) - I'd still place it in the top three Godzilla movies, but I feel like there's a plethora of fans out there that believe it's entirely without fault. It is a perfect Godzilla vs. [insert monster] movie from a technical point-of-view. And the monsters really deliver. But the characters' stories are wrapped up too quickly leaving Sekizawa to tack on a "rescue the children" subplot while Godzilla fights Mothra at the end. The film is too good for the last 10 minutes or so...

Destroy All Monsters - I think this might be Honda's weakest Godzilla movie. The gimmick, afterall, is seeing 11 monsters in one movie. It mostly works, especially for the end, but not before long stretches of Honda's most boring characters and drama. His films are better when they're aiming to say something. Otherwise, his characters come off as very one dimensional and barely hold the movie up when the monsters aren't on-screen.

Godzilla vs. Destroyah - I think a lot of fans give this movie the pass because Godzilla dies or Destroyah seems like a cool monsters. But it's riddled with big issues: Cars tend to go by like nothing is happening while Godzilla attacks, Emiko is brought back with practically nothing to but provide fan lipservice, Destroyah has a whole scene ripped from Aliens, Bandai Destroyahs, a "create the Oxygen Destroyer" plot that is dropped half-way in the movie, subtle  character romance that goes nowhere... There's some good stuff in this movie to overlook this kind of thing, but it doesn't necessarily outweigh the negative.

Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack - It's one of my favorite movies, but like Mothra vs. Godzilla, some people think it's more sacred than it actually is.  The last third is a tad rushed and although the movie features the series best special effects there are pitfalls in certain shots that are inconsistant. I love the mysticism involved, but I think some needed to be pulled back in favor of ambiguity. Still... It's the best Godzilla movie in the last 25-35 years.

I have a feeling Godzilla (2014) is going to be added to this list in the not-too-distant future...

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Akagi

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 10:54 AM

Gon' have to say Godzilla vs The Thing.

Easily the most overrated Godzilla film outside the original. OH NO HE SAID IT! I aint scurred. 

But Godzilla vs Destoroyah is a close second.

No I'm not justifying my reasons or rationalizing. I've done it a million times and most Godzilla fans are so addicted to confirmation bias that anything along the lines of critical thinking or logic terrifies them to no end. 

 

He is 350ft Tall people, those things on his neck ARE gills, and the Brazil photo is part of the final advertising design-- Deal with it.

Spinojira

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 11:17 AM

So GMAN2887@ you are already predicting without even having seen the movie that it will be overrated?

"Its a Tyrannosaurus."

"I don't think so... It sounds bigger. It sounds like death; the destroyer of worlds...."

Spinojira

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 11:18 AM

So GMAN2887@ you are already predicting without even having seen the movie that it will be overrated?

"Its a Tyrannosaurus."

"I don't think so... It sounds bigger. It sounds like death; the destroyer of worlds...."

Spinojira

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 11:18 AM

So GMAN2887@ you are already predicting without even having seen the movie that it will be overrated?

"Its a Tyrannosaurus."

"I don't think so... It sounds bigger. It sounds like death; the destroyer of worlds...."

Spinojira

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 11:22 AM

Sorry for the reposts. :/

"Its a Tyrannosaurus."

"I don't think so... It sounds bigger. It sounds like death; the destroyer of worlds...."

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaApr-01-2014 11:53 AM

@Spinojira

We'll take care of the reposts.

But to answer your question, I think any new franchise movie tends to get overrated due to fan hype and excitment. I mean, we already have people saying this will be the best Godzilla movie ever made without people having seen it.

I'm confident it will be a good movie, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. For the first year or so, many fans will be blinded by the fact that it's new and fresh while overlooking any possibile inconsistancies. It happened with past Godzilla movies. It's happened with Batman movies. Marvel movies... etc... etc...

The dance goes on.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Madison

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 3:18 PM

I can see many people calling Godzilla 2014 the BEST Godzilla movie ever (or second best, only to the 1954 version). Some already have. 

I myself am going to have a hard time separating my bias from this film (being only the third Godzilla movie I've ever seen in theaters, it being done in English by a good cast,....and it not having aging special effects, etc.) to give it an objective ranking. This movie will probably get a higher rating from me than it would get if I had grown up in Japan, watching Godzilla films for awhile. 

For others, who this might be the VERY FIRST Godzilla movie they've ever seen in theaters, I imagine that bias will mulitply greatly. I can see where G-Man is coming from in that he's already calling it over-rated. 

That being said, over-rated does not mean it's bad. Even a GREAT movie can still be over-rated. Over-rated or not, I'm sure Godzilla 2014 will be awesome and I'll enjoy it very much.

Daikaiju Danielle

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 3:48 PM

Yeah, I agree with Godzilla vs. Destoroyah as well. Yes, the music was good, the costumes were awesome, and the ending is heart-aching. However, the rest of the film (the parts that take up most of the film) is kinda boring and uninteresting. Also, Godzilla doesn't even defeat Destoroyah, the army did! :O

 

The most overrated kaiju, definitely King Ghidorah. Gigan and Kiryu are very close. I know King Ghidorah is the most recognizable monster villain but he's not as cool as everyone blows him up to be.

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Ringo-scifi

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-01-2014 4:35 PM

Most overrated monster. 

Gigan

I see comments all the time Gigan is one of the most powerful Godzilla enemies because he beat up Godzilla in Godzilla vs Gigan.

Really did they even see the moive or just the fight scenes on youtube?

I am guessing the fights on youtube because they are forgetting that. Godzilla was walking like he was drunk before and during Gigans beating. Because of wait for it a tape was being played. And when that tape machine was not on / after it had been destory Godzilla would walk normally and compeltly overpowered Gigan. So guessing it was some kind of mind interference thing. Like some lights/sound affect humans forget what it is called. 

Most overrated moive. Oh gee hard one.I can't think of one that i feel is the most overrated. Yes i could go on and on about each moives plotholes, scenes that don't add up, etc but overall overratted idk. Maybe Final wars? But i have not seen one comment that said they liked the movie overall. No plot. Huh DBZ Sayin/power rangers coplaying humans/mutants that was (while a few good fight scenes) took down the crab monster. And that one almost going super sayin and giving Godzilla his power? What? Some random bad*** guy with a sword that can beat the aliens that huh got hot with a human in the past that made the DBZ Sayin/power rangers people? Sorry works in manga not a moive that just popped up out of now where.

Godzilla x Megaguirus  

Black hole guns and kid heros. Really? 

 

 

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaApr-01-2014 4:45 PM

@Madison

All of that is basically what I'm banking on happening. Although I'm not calling the film overrated right now, I think it's pretty good guess on my part.

It'll be interesting to see how people critique, compare and contrast. It's a fine line, but I think there's a way of going about it that's fair to both the new movie, the previous 28 films and even GINO.

All of that said, you're spot on. A great movie can be overrated. My list of "overrated" Godzilla movies contains films that are actually pretty damn good-- Mothra vs. Godzilla and GMK in particular. That doesn't mean the fanbase doesn't exaggerate their merits just a touch. I'm sure I'm guilty of that as well.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

timothyzilla1996

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-05-2014 8:52 AM

I'd probably go with Destroy All Monsters or Godzilla vs Mothra(showa). As for most overrated KAIJU, I would say Destoroyah and Gabara(loljk).

ghidorah2001

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-17-2014 11:40 PM

i love love the astro monster but im a ghidorah lover so thats why the most overrated film not that it is i love them all but my choice is godzilla vs mothra why well i dont like mothra wining dont get me wrong its a great movie but so many people love it ive sean then monster not destroyah hes only in one film give him popularity but ovrated biolante she is overated

123invaders

MemberMothra LarvaeNov-03-2014 5:45 PM

Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah: giant monsters all out attack

Don't get me wrong it's good but it has lots of problems. First off I hated that Ghidorah was the hero of the film, I hated Mothra's design, and I really REALLY did not like the last half of it. Godzilla's design looks good in some shots but in others it just looks odd. I also didn't like the whole mythical element it just kinda stops me from taking it seriously

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaNov-03-2014 8:22 PM

Looking back at this thread, it's humbling seeing how correct I and Madison were about people's bias positivity for the 2014 movie. It's good. And I like it. But one of the best Godzilla movies it is clearly not. Yet, some fan circles will continue to hail it because it's latest, biggest thing in the franchise right now. I wonder how it will be looked at 10 years from now.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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