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Zilla: Let's Stop the Hate

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NateZilla10000

Mothra LarvaeMember75 XPNov-15-2014 4:52 PM

 

It's been 16 long years. We need to stop looking at this guy with so much hatred.

 

Everyone knows he's not Godzilla. He's been renamed and promptly obliterated by the original.

 

But really, what Godzilla-kaiju HASN'T gotten its ass owned by the King?

The hate towards Zilla needs to end. He's a very interesting kaiju in of himself and deserves a respectable view. Now, I'm not saying we need to worship him or anythng along the lines of that, but really, we owe a lot to this guy. Had he not shown up, Toho would have never made a Godzilla film again, or at least for a REALLY long time. Godzilla 2000 was a direct response to the 1998 movie.

 

So, had Zilla not shown up, say goodbye to the Millennium Series. Say good-bye to Orga, Megaguirus, 2001 Baragon, Kiryu, 2004 Gigan, and Monster X I/II.

 

Zilla has done a lot for the Godzilla Franchise. Let's start showing him some respect.

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4Kaiju

Mothra LarvaeMember16 XPNov-15-2014 4:58 PM

I've honestly never hated Zilla, I didnt even mind calling him Godzilla as long as the word American came before it.

I wasnt one of those fans who waited anxiously for the film and got ticked off about it.

I saw it right after I saw my very first Godzilla film over a year ago.

buttom line I always liked the design and had alot of hate one. the film is a guilty pleasure and the series is one of my absolute favorites.

GG

GiganModerator3811 XPNov-15-2014 5:04 PMTeam Godzilla

The Reason i Hate Zilla

Zilla is hated because of him being in the Worst film of all time. If Zilla was in a Godzilla film i wouldnt care to much about him, but he was marketed as Godzilla. He was claimed as Godzilla he was said to be Godzilla and he was suppose to be apart of a Great movie.

This post is pretty needless, its probably just going to bring forth a wave of major Zilla Hater's like me. Except im not going to argue.

Good grief.

gojifan02

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-15-2014 5:08 PM

i personally like zilla.... He was my 1st godzilla (bedsides final wars) movie that I saw and when I was littler I LOVED him but what ha expect

RESPECT THE GOLDEN MIRUmiru

The King of the Monsters

Mothra LarvaeMember2 XPNov-15-2014 5:09 PM

I've never actually hated Zilla either. I was actually introduced to Zilla first before I ever saw a real Godzilla movie. After I saw what the real Godzilla was, I started to just refer to Zilla as the "female Godzilla" since it laid eggs. This was of course when I was very little, close to only four years old, before "Zilla" was ever trademarked by Toho. I enjoyed watching the 1998 film back then and I must admit it was a big part of my childhood. However as I began to see more and more actual Godzilla films and becamse more familiar with movies in general, I started to resent the 1998 film for how poor of a film it actually was and after Zilla's obliteration in Final Wars I sort of just dismissed him as a scapegoat for the franchise and went along with the consensus of the fandom and disliked him.

After the 2014 film redeemed the phrase "American Godzilla" and Zilla himself finally got some legitimate respect in Godzilla: Rulers of Earth, I started to become fond of him again. I now appreciate Zilla as a very well-designed monster with some pretty cool attributes and realize that he is not to blame at all for the 1998 film, which was Roland Emmerich's fault. I enjoy Zilla as his own monster and frequently find myself defending him on other websites from fans who trash-talk him simply for being different from Godzilla. Zilla will never be Godzilla, but he is a true Godzilla monster, like all of the other beloved monsters in the franchise. I dislike the 1998 film greatly now even though I still appreciate it for its slight entertainment value and Zilla himself, but I do not hold anything against Zilla. What I do dislike is non-Godzilla fans saying that the 1998 film was better than any classic Godzilla film and that Zilla is a better Godzilla design because it's more realistic, which I find offensive as a Godzilla fan. People calling Zilla "Godzilla" is still a major pet peeve of mine, but there's nothing I can do about it.

Sorry for the lecture, but I wholeheartedly agree with the main idea of your post.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

Something Real

GodzillaMember5639 XPNov-15-2014 5:28 PM

NATEZILLA10000 - I agree whole-heartedly; there's no reason to hate on the poor darling any longer. As a stand alone monster, he's fantastic - he just isn't Godzilla. That, however, doesn't mean he lacks value as a Kaiju! :)

Linkzilla

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-15-2014 5:38 PM

How many threads of these treads are there going to be here before people realize that... well, there are already a whole bunch of these threads? And also that these threads won't change anyone's opinion... and that people haven't been going out of their way to hate on him for a long time?

Therizinosaurus Rex(aka Kaijusaurs)

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-15-2014 5:53 PM

I do agree, its been 16 years and we got 2014 film, so I don't really get why peaple still hate him and Im new

Therizinosaurus for JW2!

dinoboy22

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-15-2014 5:55 PM

hes  really not that bad of a monster. a terrible godzilla but a unique monster

Sci-Fi King25

GiganMember4297 XPNov-15-2014 6:10 PM

Well said! I do love Zilla, but it can rot in the depths of the kaiju underworld as a Godzilla design.

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

FordBrodyLover99

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-15-2014 7:19 PM

...Look. When was the last time someone went on a huge anti-zilla rant?  Im sure it happens here and there, but its rare. I admittedly chose a not so genius name, but with that said;

I dont like Zilla. You could in fact say that i do hate him. But im not gonna stop you from liking him. I dont like him as Godzilla. I dont like him as his own thing. I dont like his film. I dont like his show.

And you know whats funny? When monsters like Gabara is given nothing but hate nobody seems too care. I guess seeing as he isnt one of the popular monsters he is just reduced to a verbal punching bag.

And of course a lot of people look down on him. He is basically a downgraded Godzilla. Its even in the name(Guess GINO would have been smarter).

Now, please dont take all this the wrong way. I dont like huge anti-zilla rants(Ironic isnt it?), and you are right. Except you are a few years late. Dont take this as anything offensive, but atleast take my words into consideration.

Carnosaur

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-15-2014 7:43 PMnever got how someone could “hate” a fictional creature. it's childish and overall pointless.

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Durp004

BaragonMember425 XPNov-15-2014 7:51 PM

^So in the vast amount of fiction whether that be book, movies, or television you've never found yourself disliking a fictional character? If that is true I can very much assure you that you are in a very small minority with that view.

NateZilla10000

Mothra LarvaeMember75 XPNov-15-2014 8:47 PM

Sorry for sounding like a broken record (if I am; this is the first topic I've seen on the matter here on the boards), but I just wanted to give my own input.

 

Also, this post does serve greater purpose as well: a tease. I'm working on a little something that is shown briefly in the montage that I hope will put everything, including the 1998 film, to bed.

 

But details on that later.

 

 

Sci-Fi King25

GiganMember4297 XPNov-16-2014 6:11 AM

^ Also, that little clip from an edited 1998 scene was cool.

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

Danzilla93

BaragonMember210 XPNov-16-2014 7:30 AM

@Carnosaur:

"never got how someone could “hate” a fictional creature. it's childish and overall pointless."

 

"Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science Fiction is the improbable made possible." -Rod Serling

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godzilla200010

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-16-2014 7:54 AM

NO THE HATRED WILL LAST FOREVER. ZILLA IS CRUD THE ACTING IS CRUD ETHERYTHING ABOUT THAT FILM IS CRUD EVEN THE BLU RAY VERSION.JUST NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Therizinosaurus Rex(aka Kaijusaurs)

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-16-2014 8:02 AM

@GODZILLA20010

"THE ACTING IS CRUD"

 

Then do it better :P

Therizinosaurus for JW2!

Linkzilla

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-16-2014 2:50 PM

"never got how someone could “hate” a fictional creature. it's childish and overall pointless."

Jar-Jar Binks. Scrappy Doo. Navi. Joffrey. The Duck Hunt dog. Dolores Umbridge. Do none of these characters provoke even the slightest negative emotions in you?

"Then do it better :P"

Saying this, like playing the Hitler card, means that you have lost the argument.

Carnosaur

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-17-2014 9:25 AM

Durp, dislike? of course. But have a grand amount of hate towards a movie character so much so that it spans out to the internet? nope. imo that's just ridiculous

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Carnosaur

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-17-2014 9:27 AM

and oh noz! i'm being attacked for voicing my personal opinion! spare me the idiocentricies.

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4816 XPNov-17-2014 9:48 AMTeam Ghidorah

Carnosaur,
The sarcasm isn't necessary. And while I share your opinion to some vague extent, I also don't think that having a massive cache of hatred for a fictional character is any more absurd than getting into an offensive flame debate about long dead animals as if someone offended a family member.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Durp004

BaragonMember425 XPNov-17-2014 10:25 AM

Well I mean this is a forum where opinions are asked and shared. Thus if a character is widely disliked chances are this would be the place to talk about it.

Dinocroc13

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-17-2014 11:21 AM

I kinda liked the 1998 Godzilla movie but Everyone is right it wasnt Godzilla it was Zilla but we all need to stop hateing him and pretending he dosn't exist.

TheGMan123

TitanosaurusMember729 XPNov-17-2014 11:38 AM

I don't think the problem is that too many people don't like him. You can't just change what people do and don't like. I think the main issue is making sure those that don't do not try to actively ruin things for other people whom may think otherwise. Basically, as long we politely agree we all have different tastes, then everything is alright, regardless of what those tastes may be in particular.

Austizzy

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-17-2014 5:15 PM

i never really had a problem with zilla. the only reason why i liked him was because at least people that didnt know better were still recognizing godzilla. i have respect for anything that represents him. and he was so much different from the real godzila that i didn't even consider him as Godzilla. more of just a dinosaur in new york. 

Carnosaur

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-17-2014 6:13 PMGman, (the staff one) i don't get your insult? but ok. it's my opinion, attacking me for it isn't verry staff-y of you. JS.

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Linkzilla

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPNov-17-2014 7:30 PM

@CARNOSAUR Dude, no one here has attacked you. The only one attacking others here is you, with your attempt to call my statements "idiocentricities."

Huge-Ben

BaragonMember330 XPNov-18-2014 1:55 PM

*Rolls eyes*

Good god people can't we all get along?

As for the topic, i will never stop disliking that movie, that overgrown size iguana.

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/  check out my gallery of Godzilla artwork! Follow me on [email protected]

TheGMan123

TitanosaurusMember729 XPNov-18-2014 2:46 PM

Yeah, what BBB said! We should all agree to that and then you'd all bow down to me as supreme overlord over anything and everything! Except for Godzilla of course :P

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4816 XPNov-21-2014 9:31 AMTeam Ghidorah

Carnosaur,
Linkzilla is correct. There was no attack on you by myself or others. There was however a suggestion to not be so snide with your comments which were further on the fringe of the word "attack" than anything directed at you.
If you don't understand the gentle ribbing of everything that came after the fact you're free to PM me (or others) that do get it.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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