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Can Godzilla 2014 Generate Spiral Atomic Rays?

Gigan923

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Posted Jul-14-2015 10:46 AM

An interesting question that crept into my head recently is can the Legendary Godzilla create a Spiral Ray like some of the previous Godzilla incarnations. In my opinion it could be possible. The thing is, as we saw in the 2014 movie, Godzilla only uses his atomic breath three times during the battle with the MUTOs. Twice on the female before she could kill Ford for blowing up the nest, and a third and final time on her to deliver the infamous `Kiss of Death`. This indicates that Godzilla's atomic breath is a last resort in any conflict, and probably drains him of energy to a considerable degree too. Therefore, if Godzilla can generate a Spiral Atomic Blast upon consuming enough radiation, when would he use it and what effect would it have on him? In my opinion, it would only be used if he was about to die and if there was only one enemy left to defeat, since the effect of firing it would be extremely tiring for Godzilla and would strain his bodily capabilities. 

Please tell me your thoughts on this subject below!

55 Responses to Can Godzilla 2014 Generate Spiral Atomic Rays?

Emperor GorillaGodzilla

Jul-14-2015 10:58 AM

The whole thing with only using his breath 3 times, has been said many times too be only cause of the Muto's having an EMP which stopped his electrical pulsations too create the energy.

In the Godzilla 2 he will most definitley use it more.

 "An Empire of power for many, an Empire of hope for most."-MSE

Sci-Fi King25

Jul-14-2015 12:54 PM

Maybe, just MAYBE, if he used all his power, he could fire a spiral ray.

Forum signatures are always so hard to come up with...

 

Huge-Ben

Jul-14-2015 1:52 PM

GorillaGodzilla,

Where on earth are you getting this whole Mutos emps affected Godzilla? Legendary has never mentioned it or proven it to be a factor. If you have links, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Huge-Ben

Jul-14-2015 1:53 PM

The way I figured it was, Legendary's Godzilla would use his atomic breath as a weapon of last resort.

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Something Real

Jul-14-2015 2:06 PM

GIGAN923 - What an interesting question! Hmm...I would honestly say the the Spiral Ray falls outside of the more "realistic" avenue Legendary are attempting to take with their Godzilla series. The whole principle behind Godzilla's "super attack" was very, um, Tokusatsu; it worked well with the films in which it was presented as it was an element that made sense within the genre. It is expected that heroes and bad guys within the bounds of such films will sport amazing abilities and evolutions thereof. However, in Legendary's continuity, I do not believe Godzilla will sport such a capability. Of course, I very well could be quite wrong in this assumption; we very well might see a Spiral Ray in Legendary's upcoming films! Regardless, this was a very fun topic to ponder! :)

wolfguy

Jul-14-2015 2:35 PM

Legendary's Godzilla doesn't even shoot a 'ray' or 'beam.' His is a legitimate flame more in tune with what the early showa films were supposed to represent from what I've seen. And I think they'll stick with that and use it sparingly so that it doesn't become old, like the Heisei beam wars.

Emperor GorillaGodzilla

Jul-14-2015 3:16 PM

Ben, it hasn't been said by Legendary but...In a way they actually have said it.

In the Godzilla awakening book it was partially mentioned, in the Official Novel it was also mentioned. And if you look at the film it is very easily too believe.

 "An Empire of power for many, an Empire of hope for most."-MSE

dinoboy22

Jul-14-2015 3:41 PM

but is godzilla awakening actually cannon though? but anyway his breath attack seems to be more of an atomic flame thrower

wolfguy

Jul-14-2015 3:49 PM

Which means the movie sequels will never mention/acknowledge it. The novels always delve deeper into certain things, no matter what film. Yet they will always be ignored when sequels pop up because they weren't in the original script/product, but rather a development of the current novel/comic writer's take on the story. That material will not be referencial for the writers of Godzilla 2/3. If it is, I'll gladly post an apology.

Huge-Ben

Jul-14-2015 4:30 PM

I don't call the books Canon. If Gareth Edwards hasn't confirmed it, then it's not true. It's like asking metallica what a song means. They tell me it means one thing but their record company puts a label on it and says it means something else. What do you think I'm going to go by? The band. 

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Emperor GorillaGodzilla

Jul-14-2015 4:36 PM

The awakening comic was written by Max Borenstein, who helped write the script. Thats why i consider it canon.

 "An Empire of power for many, an Empire of hope for most."-MSE

Huge-Ben

Jul-14-2015 4:46 PM

Even if it is Canon, why not let that information out there under Godzillas bio? 

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G. H. (Gman)

Jul-14-2015 5:12 PM

Since the EMP affects were not mentioned in the film I don't consider it canonical. I agree with Gigan923, that firing the atomic breath takes a lot of energy out of Godzilla. It's something to use frugally and wait for when there's a good opportunity.

That being said, I doubt we'll see the Spiral Ray in the Legendary series. I hated it in the Heisei series/Final Wars and it would be incredibly eye rolling in the new movies. Plus, Edwards seems to take most of his cues from the Showa series, so it's unlikely he's aware of it.

ZillaJrKaijuKing

Jul-14-2015 6:54 PM

Is it really confirmed that this Godzilla has to use his atomic breath sparingly due to it taking up too much energy?

Also, isn't the red spiral breath used only when Godzilla gets some sort of power boost?

Emperor GorillaGodzilla

Jul-14-2015 7:28 PM

They're are a lot of things in Books that are canon yet not explained in the film.

Take Batman for example, the Dark Knight became a book i am pretty sure, same with the Arkham series. The whole Batman Arkham City video game became a book, and in the book some things were explained in greater detail...are they not canon?

 "An Empire of power for many, an Empire of hope for most."-MSE

G. H. (Gman)

Jul-14-2015 9:51 PM

Gorilla,
"The whole Batman Arkham City video game became a book, and in the book some things were explained in greater detail...are they not canon?"

No.

Of course we've been over this a hundred times by now. The Godzilla novel contradicts things that are in the movie and vice-versa. (Because the writer of the novel was merely interpreting his own version of the story. There's plenty in it that was not the filmmakers' decisions.) Picking and chosing elements to make your perfect, "canonical" world is the exact reason why it shouldn't be considered canon-- And I don't consider it canon. Bringing it into the conversation means about as much to me as a blank post and shall not be considered seriously.

ZillaJrKaijuKing,
There is no confirmation that he uses it sparingly due to energy, but it's likely in the film-- Or even no less likely than the silly EMP babble. I think the idea that his atomic breath uses a lot of energy is in line with Edwards' philosophy and makes Godzilla more interesting. Legendary Godzilla isn't a power house. He's an ancient creature, which alone should suggest something that is certainly seasoned, but not in peak condition.

And yes each time Godzilla used the Spiral Ray he had a power boost. In Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II it was from Rodan. In Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla it was from the energy emitting from the damaged SpaceGodzilla. In Godzilla vs. Destoroyah it was due to his condition, and in Godzilla: Final Wars it was because he was given the kaiser energy.

ZillaForLife

Jul-15-2015 3:55 AM

I disagree with the canon thing, I take Awakening and the novelisation as canon, which both touch on the Emp affecting Godzilla. That's two sources vs one so wouldn't it be more correct to follow that?

to the topic at hand- Legendary Godzilla is probably capable of the feat, I mean, I don't see why he wouldn't not able to do it. Will we ever see it? Maybe, it's possible.

G. H. (Gman)

Jul-15-2015 5:13 AM

"That's two sources vs one so wouldn't it be more correct to follow that?"

Why would that matter? The movie is the only reason those other two "sources" exist. They were meant to add on to the movie, they were meant to support and advertise the movie-- That's the only reason they were even put on the market. If we're going to start counting marketing ploys as canon then we might as well count the toys as well:

It's official. Godzilla can unhinge his top jaw from his skull to fire his nuclear breath. The toy doesn't so it's canon.

Durp004

Jul-15-2015 5:28 AM

I'd rather G14 didn't have spiral ray. There's something more interesting about a weaker monster overcoming others by fighting tooth and nail to take them down, a superpowered final attack doesn't offer that.

 

No Godzilla has had a spiral ray off the bat. It was through the obsorption of other power sources that give it that power. I doubt Legendary has  it through, he struggles enough to use his normal breath, I don't think having a more powerful one would make things easier on him.

 

*Note struggle does not mean that he's having difficulty because an emp, it stands for him only using it as a last resort and having a longer charge time than the other incarnations'*

Emperor GorillaGodzilla

Jul-15-2015 6:52 AM

Listen, its called, "The Official Godzilla Novel." I do not see why it is not considered canon by you fellas.

the official novel contradicts certain, "Minor" sequences from the film. But for the most part follows the film closely.

I believe Godzilla used his breath on the Muto when they first met, i also believe his breath was malfunctioning. But you guys will never accept that as canon, so on that note i really have nothing else left to say.

 "An Empire of power for many, an Empire of hope for most."-MSE

Durp004

Jul-15-2015 7:30 AM

I don't since we never saw or spoke of it in the movie(the main source of media, the source that novel was created souly to promote, the source that had the most time effort and money put into). If you can give me a good reason why it was left out I'll believe you. It doesn't make sense from a character stance, doesn't make sense from a story stance. Unless this film was so far in the red they could include all those shots of Godzilla entering and the build up that they had no money to tell an important aspect of the title character there's no reason it should be left out. 

 

No one who didn't read that novel walked out of that movie thinking with any valid points that Godzilla's breath was hindered in any way. That's the point, things that are cannon get told to the audience things that aren't are just there to promote sales revenue.

Huge-Ben

Jul-15-2015 8:10 AM

GorillaGodzilla,

Again, just because it's got a label titling it "official"  doesn't always make it true. Like I said earlier, I ask metallica what a song means and the band tells me exactly what it means yet, their record company puts an official label on it and says it means something else, am I to believe that? No. I'll go with the band. It can be the same with the directors. So, no confirmation from them, nothing is true with those books you call Canon.

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Emperor GorillaGodzilla

Jul-15-2015 2:08 PM

^Ben i am not trying too start an arguement, so please tyou don't have to get mad.

Listen, its just my opinion i am entitled too it. No one has to believe my views and they certainly will not, i brought up a point from two books i read called, "Godzilla: Awakening written by Max Borenstein the man who was apart of the script for Godzilla." And, "Godzilla, the offical novel adaptation.

 

 "An Empire of power for many, an Empire of hope for most."-MSE

Emperor GorillaGodzilla

Jul-15-2015 2:10 PM

Wanted too say something, what exactly is with the adamantness of it not being canon? Why do you all care so much if it is or isn't? Why is it so horrible for it too be canon, is they're something wrong with Godzilla 2014 having a little abillity that makes a tad bit more sense? And because it wasn't mentioned in the movie, doesn't mean it wasnt canon. If an official novel from a film written by the script writer makes a book off of his script, how is it not canon?

 "An Empire of power for many, an Empire of hope for most."-MSE

High FLYERS Tag Team

Jul-15-2015 2:12 PM

^Im personally in the middle on the books, why? Why would the mutos need EMP's during the Stone Age?

the topic: It would be interesting to see but I rather see a nuclear pulse then a Spiral Ray, one that makes for sense, obviously the spiral 

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Emperor GorillaGodzilla

Jul-15-2015 2:16 PM

^Good point High Flyers, why would they need EMPs?

 "An Empire of power for many, an Empire of hope for most."-MSE

High FLYERS Tag Team

Jul-15-2015 2:18 PM

Was the emps used for ghidorah bolts? Were they used for nothing? Or would they put there to make the script for dramatic for the modern day and makes a film that's trying to make its self realistic get put in there for the most dumbest reason ever, phhs, no wonder their species got kill off, they got the dumbest, usless power ever

There are strong men and weak men. The strong ones are here to keep the weak ones up when ever they fail.

High FLYERS Tag Team

Jul-15-2015 2:20 PM

Like seriously there is a reason they are there

There are strong men and weak men. The strong ones are here to keep the weak ones up when ever they fail.

Huge-Ben

Jul-15-2015 2:29 PM

GorillaGodzilla,

First off, I am not mad. Second, the official Godzilla novelization was written by this guy.

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Godzilla: The Official Novelization

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Legendary Book
Godzilla The Official Movie Novelization
Godzilla: The Official Novelization
Author
Greg Cox
Publisher
Titan Books
Publication Date
May 20, 2014

Genre
Novels, Movies, Science Fiction
ISBN
ISBN-10: 1783290943
ISBN-13: 978-1783290949

Godzilla: The Official Novelization is a novel based on Legendary Pictures' Godzilla. The book was written by Greg Cox and published by Titan Books. The novelization was released on May 20, 2014

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The thing is, the movie came out first. Meaning the books are not canon to the film.

I hate being the guy to prove you wrong but there is the solid facts.

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Huge-Ben

Jul-15-2015 2:38 PM

GorillaGodzilla,

You are entitled to your opinion. I have nothing against it because we are all entitled to our opinions. However, If we are taking the Godzilla Awakening into the equation, then all of the comic books before this are legit to everything Godzilla. Including Dark Horse, Marvel, and IDW.

 

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