King Kong vs Godzilla
Posted Mar-19-2017 3:28 AM
Jesus christ, please don't let this have anything to do with the 1970s garbage. I am STILL pissed off that they were biased toward king kong and basically made him out to be the good guy and Godzilla out to be the bad guy. I think they made Kong the winner as well. I remember watching this crappage when I was like 10 years old, and I was extremely angry about it back then. Didn't make sense to me. For one thing, King Kong was 50 feet tall at best, and depending on the decade, Godzilla was between 300 and 500 feet tall. Now they are making an excuse that king kong in Skull Island is 100 feet tall but still basically a child and has more growing to do. Garbage. These two monsters should never have been mixed in the first place. And since the 70s they've made excuses as to why and how king kong can even stand up to Godzilla. King Kong 2005 is one of my favorite movies of all time, but... let it be. Let it exist as it is, in it's own universe, like it should. I am really worried about the king kong vs Godzilla crap coming in 2020. Maybe if they have Kong and Godzilla stand off in the beginning, for whatever stupid reason, and then have them team up in the end against a common threat such as Ghodirah, then I'd be ok with that I suppose. Don't give me some garbage though, about Kong taking down Godzilla, the King of Monsters that can withstand nuclear blasts and breaths radioactive 'fire', but gets beat down by an overgrown monkey in the 70s version. I'd be so livid....
Posted Mar-19-2017 12:47 PM
What on earth have you been smoking?
First of all, The original Kong vs. Godzilla was made in the 1960's and released in Japan in 1962 and holds the record of most attended G-film to date.
Secondly, Godzilla has never been 500 feet tall. From 1954-1975 he's 50 meters, or 164 feet tall. 1984-89, he's 80 meters or 262 feet tall. From 1991-1995, and 2004 he's 100 meters, 328 feet tall. Just to name a few.
Kong still growing shouldn't be a problem. I don't see why complain about it. Toho bumped his size up to 45 meters in the original 1962 film.
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Posted Mar-20-2017 2:45 PM
If this post is against the rules, I apologize, but this poster seems to be one of these "trolls" and/or "sh*t-posters" who only comes in to bash on something without provocation or context under the pretense of something productive.
Besides that, however, we already have some clear evidence as to how Kong will be able to match Godzilla.
He's still growing, which means he'll likely grow large enough to be close to a strength match with Godzilla himself, though I do believe he won't be quite as strong. He's also EXTREMELY agile for his size, more like a chimp than a gorilla in that regard. He's also very resourceful, making use of whatever is in his environment in intelligent and tactical ways.
Posted Mar-20-2017 8:29 PM
I tend to just automatically dismiss any criticism of King Kong vs. Godzilla that relies on calling the film "biased" for having Kong triumph against Godzilla or just criticizing the film based on the victor alone. Kong was more popular at the time, he was the more sympathetic monster while Godzilla was perceived as a villain, etc. It made sense for him to win.
And judging the film solely on who wins the battle or the fact that Kong had to be scaled up for the film to even happen is a shortsighted view and does the movie a huge disservice. KKvG, at least the Japanese version, is a very well-done and entertaining satirical film that never fails to entertain me, not to mention the final battle is a highlight of the series and Akira Ifukube turns in one of his most memorable scores. All around, it's just an incredibly enjoyable film for which I can more than forgive the changes made to Kong and the outcome of the final battle. There's just so much more to it than an upsized Kong defeating Godzilla.
Posted Mar-21-2017 9:32 AM
Reposting The King of the Monsters' words because it should be framed:
"And judging the film solely on who wins the battle or the fact that Kong had to be scaled up for the film to even happen is a shortsighted view and does the movie a huge disservice. KKvG, at least the Japanese version, is a very well-done and entertaining satirical film that never fails to entertain me, not to mention the final battle is a highlight of the series and Akira Ifukube turns in one of his most memorable scores. All around, it's just an incredibly enjoyable film for which I can more than forgive the changes made to Kong and the outcome of the final battle. There's just so much more to it than an upsized Kong defeating Godzilla."
Posted Mar-26-2017 7:13 AM
Remember when Roddy Piper and Keith David teamed up in "They Live"? I'm pretty sure that slugfest was like five or six minutes of screentime. Impressive! I think a Godzilla and Kong team up would need to be set up kind of like that.
If the Bigger Threat Jiger mentioned were something that endangered Humanity exclusively, perhaps Godzilla would be indifferent to it, or even welcome it, what with Humanity being a huge pain in the butt and all.
Kong, however, might still have some affinity left for humans, and desperately seek G's help in staving off the Bigger Threat. Getting past G's more merciless reptilian instincts would prove quite a challenge, probably requiring some act of kindness from Kong (like taking a hit of some kind for Godzilla) to get G to show any empathy.
While this speculation is almost entirely devoid of specifics, I think the They Live analogy could still apply to a G/K team up scenario.
Posted Mar-26-2017 8:34 AM
KK vs G was one of my first three G-Films on VHS back before the Heisei series was even properly starting (Biollante hadn't yet come out) and I suspect anybody mindless enough to write it off as "70s garbage" is either trolling or under the age of 15. I'm extremely fond of both versions and have loved entertaining the idea of a modern remake for years, and Kong Skull Island not only managed to be a super fun movie by itself but it got me extremely pumped for the rematch.
I only suspect that Kong's main tactics will be the weaponization skills he demonstrated rather than anything electricity related, because admittedly that random power would come off rather hokey, but I'm confident it should be done pretty well after seeing Kong kick tail this last month.
Posted Mar-26-2017 3:06 PM
I think the 2014 film (and novel) seemed to characterize G as Nature's own last line of defense, the whole restoring balance angle Serazawa had theorized.
Seeing as how Mankind could also conceivably fit "the threat against Nature" role, I couldn't help considering how this G might not respond unfavorably to some force that was specifically targeting Humans and the detrimental effects they have on the planet.
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