Shin Godzilla Sequel - My Idea
Posted Apr-12-2017 6:54 PM
So with Shin Godzilla being the success it was at the box office, I can imagine that a sequel is that far out of a concept. I'd love to see one, as I found Shin Godzilla one of the best in the series, and I have an idea of how I'd like it to go down also.
So the it starts maybe a year or two after the events of the first movie. A scientist working in a lab (who will be the main character of this film) is analyzing Godzilla's DNA. He and his team are also examining specimens of those skeletal humanoid Godzillas, which they conclude was Godzilla's next form. However, they are dead - killed by being frozen before they could free themselves from Godzilla's tail. The actual Godzilla himself (still frozen) has been moved to a classified site, where these samples are being carefully taken. The military is also devising new, very deadly weapons to use in the case that Godzilla was to free himself again.
Then, one evening, the radiation levels in the frozen Godzilla start to mysteriously rise. And then, it starts to crack. Scientists run and panic as the solid rock starts to actually melt off of Godzilla's body, freeing him! The military soon arrive and start to fire missiles at Godzilla, but no damage is done. In fact, Godzilla manages to destroy most of the lab and then heads towards the city.
Godzilla then arrives in the city and starts to destroy things. The military desperately try to hold him back, but he is not bothered at all by everything they throw at him. Back at the lab, the scientist (let's name him Akira) manages to help free some people from the rubble, including his secretary. He finds his laptop, with the screen cracked, and tries to find out why the radiation levels suddenly rose.
Meanwhile, Godzilla continues destroying the city. The military discuss releasing one of their ultimate weapons, known as the Deep Space, but they are reluctant because it could kill many people in the process of destroying Godzilla. However, as Godzilla unleashes his atomic breath upon the city, they begin to wonder if they have any choice. Then, Godzilla goes through a hideous malt where he rocks side to side slowly, and those humanoid Godzillas fall from him and begin to attack people on the streets! The military struggles to take them out, since there are so many of them and they are so agile and durable.
Meanwhile, at the lab, Akira and some others find that the rise of radiation was due to a weapon behind developed in the same lab, known as the Oxygen Destroyer. It contains a lot of nuclear energy, and that was what powered up the King of Monsters so he could rise again. It is also discovered that because he gained so much energy from the bomb, he will not get tired out like he did before.
In the city, the Americans arrive and begin bombing the monster. While some of the humanoids are successfully killed by the attacks, Godzilla mostly shrugs them off. The Americans contact the Japanese military and suggest dropping the atomic bomb. However, it is decided that it will not be needed. The Japanese are going to use the Deep Space.
Back at the lab, Akira comes up with a plan to kill Godzilla - overloading the monster with so much Nuclear energy that his body can't contain it. He and some others at the site try to see if they can recover the Oxygen Destroyer for the plan, but once they exit the room they see a horrible sight - their are humanoid Godzillas lurking around the lab!
Cut back to the destruction. As Godzilla stomps around the city and continues to destroy everything, an announcement on all radios, televisions and broadcasts order evacuation. Meanwhile, the Japanese military prepare the Deep Space, which is revealed to be a sleek, alien-looking bomb - which, if successful, will cause Godzilla to be sucked into a black hole. They prepare the launch of the missiles as some soldiers say their prayers.
Go back to the lab. The scientists lock themselves in the room, but the humanoid Godzillas start to gain their scent. Akira desperately tries to think of how to get to the Oxygen Destroyer. He tries to make a call on the phone, and even though the line is very unstable, he manages to make a call for help to the military.
Meanwhile, the military are counting down the launch of the Deep Space. Godzilla and his humanoids are still romping around, putting the city in ruin. The military then launch the weapon. A giant black hole opens up, and Godzilla's humanoids are easily sucked in, along with buildings and even some people who were still on the streets. Godzilla tries to withstand the force, but eventually he too it drawn in and it closes. There is a large explosion as it does so, which destroys most of the city that Godzilla didn't get to already. The military celebrate, but still understand the impact of what they have done. However, it is not over. Because deep under the water near the city, the black hole reopens, and Godzilla smashes his way out with a mighty roar!
The next morning, after hardly any sleep from being locked in the room, Akira wakes up. He looks out the window, and sees how destroyed the city is. He wakes up his associates, and they try to see if the humanoids are still there. When one of them bravely opens the door and pokes their head out, they see that the military arrived, and did in fact the creatures. Akira and his associates are glad they are still alive, but then comes the bad news from the soldiers that saved them - Godzilla has risen again after being breaking out from the Deep Space. Akira knows that he must find the Oxygen Destroyer.
The military and the scientists manage to find the Destroyer buried underneath the rubble. They carefully handle it and load it onto a military vehicle, and head towards the base to discuss Akira's plan.
During all of this, Godzilla is destroying Hiroshima, this time without his humanoids.
At the military base, Akira discusses his plan with the military heads, and they try to come up with an idea together. They end up concluding of one plan - they will lead Godzilla to the water, and then kill him with the Oxygen Destroyer.
In Hiroshima, the military begins to attack Godzilla, angering him greatly. They head towards the bay, and Godzilla follows. They then lead him into the water, where he attempts to destroy the ships with his tail. Then, the Oxygen Destroyer is lowered into the water, and the countdown begins. The ships evacuate, while the air force proceeds to distract Godzilla by shooting him.
Then, the Oxygen Destroyer goes off. Akira watches from the bay as the water bubbles, and Godzilla starts to fall with confused and weakened roars. He starts to disintegrate and fall apart, until he is a skeleton. The skeleton then falls underwater with a mighty splash, and the military and the scientists cheer and thank God for their success. Akira then discusses the next steps with the Military heads.
However, the final scene shows Godzilla's skeleton underwater - with his heart still beating inside the ribs. The end.
I know. It's really rough and awful. But I like it. It's a sloppy draft. Once you see past the many errors, I hope it's good enough. Thanks for reading it if you did!
"Is that a monkey?"
Posted Apr-12-2017 8:02 PM
I like your theory. At least you were able to come up with one. I can't even think what they could ever do after Shin Godzilla. I've only thought of one for Godzilla vs. Kong. The part I would like keep in the movie is to see how Shin Godzilla takes the nuclear bomb that's ready to be fired on him when he breaks apart from the ice rather than him to be transported. But other than that, good job.
Posted Apr-14-2017 1:02 PM
Might wanna tone down the more fantastical sci-fi elements.
The world of Shin Godzilla is a relatively grounded one. Heck, the blood coagulant was realistic in approach, as was the procedures involved in making decisions and whatnot.
However, making use of the Godzilla humanoids is a good idea.
Posted Apr-14-2017 1:15 PM
One thing that kinda debunks the next evolution being dead by being frozen is the fact that he was trying to evolve after being frozen. There's obviously a time gap from when he is frozen to the shot of the next evolution. His tail was frozen completely. So, the fact that his tail was already frozen, and to the last shot indicate there is a time gap.
I do like your idea though. My theory of a sequel is that the U.N. discovered his next "movement" , in this case, evolution, and the nuclear strike counts down once again. Remember, The U.N. stated that if Godzilla were to start moving again they would set off the nuclear strike. That being said, his next evolution required "movement" to happen.
Posted Apr-14-2017 2:17 PM
^It doesn't debunk it. Even if there was enough fuel flowing through Godzilla's frozen body to attempt the evolution it clearly wasn't successful. None of the creatures were moving in the final shot and they clearly looked as if they were struggling to escape. (Although the poses may be more symbolic in nature.)
And it's still entirely possible Godzilla was trying to evolve before being frozen. Based on his previous work, Anno's one to accept a continuity error just so a later shot can make more of an impact.
Posted Apr-14-2017 2:40 PM
Gman, do I need to show you the shots on Twitter again? The tail tip differences in each shot show it in the film. It happens after being frozen. Even if Hideaki Anno wanted to be like his past work, it's not concluded that way in his script with the art of Shin Godzilla book.
Posted Apr-14-2017 4:42 PM
You know, I was gonna save this idea for my own writing, but I think it might be relevant here.
Basically, I'm wondering whether the "Godzilla humanoid sprouting" thing would only be from the tail, or if it would engulf the whole body. Imagine..... a mini-Godzilla sprouting from every inch of Shin Godzilla's body.
OH! EVEN BETTER IDEA! What if this is like a Destoroyah deal, where the mini-Godzillas recombine into a more fearsome form of Shin Godzilla?
Posted Apr-14-2017 4:59 PM
It's pretty much confirmed in the film that Godzilla was able to reconstruct itself. Even after being attacked by the mop2 bombs. He can do like Sanda and Gaira from war of the gargantuas and make millions of himself. It's an interesting take on the king of the monsters.
Posted Apr-14-2017 5:41 PM
I think I'm going to rewrite this, cause there are things I did wrong. But before I do that - I just need to know - what's going on with humanoids? are they alive/dead? are they still growing or were they stopped? It'll be important if I go further with this.
"Is that a monkey?"
Posted Apr-14-2017 5:52 PM
Let me apologize if I sounded like I was bashing your theory. I wasn't trying to do that at all. Like I said, I liked your theory.
To answer your question, The humanoids were Godzilla's next evolution. He couldn't continue to evolve because he ran out of energy. It was confirmed in the film that as long as Godzilla had energy and the proper environment, he could evolve into anything that it seemed superior to that environment. With being very low in energy while being frozen, he had enough to try to evolve but not enough to finish it.
Sorry for the long paragraphs, and again if I came off like I was bashing your theory.
Posted Apr-14-2017 6:04 PM
That's the thing. His evolution continuing is of uncertainty which is why the nuclear bomb is ready to go off on him whenever he breaks apart from the ice. All the coagulant did was stop his evolution and reign of destruction temporarily.
Posted Apr-14-2017 6:05 PM
In the film, he was completely frozen. Tail tip and all. So, somehow someway, there has to be a time gap between the shot where he is frozen to the next evolution.
The shot of him completely frozen shows his tail tip pointing to his left side. It is not moving or trying to evolve. Its completely frozen. The shot of his next evolution, shows the tail tip standing straight up so to speak with his next evolution hanging off the tip. Yes, the next evolution is not moving at all, but we have to remember when he laid waste to Tokyo with all of his atomic photon beam attacks, he ran out of energy completely and had to recharge it. Sure it took almost 2 weeks to do so, but the military interrupted his "full" energy charge. They made him waste his energy once again, maybe not fully but enough to where he couldn't use his atomic breath attack for a long period of time. My best guess is that the energy he had left was just enough to start the next evolution process, but not enough to finish it.
Posted Apr-14-2017 8:50 PM
You've made your point and case with the screenshots multiple times, but that evidence proves to be completely moot if Anno made a continuity error on purpose just so the final shot had a greater impact. Why reveal something so shocking and bizarre, which is intended to be the final dramatic beat of a movie, when it can be saved for its intended purpose? It makes little dramatic sense and the director has made decisions like this multiple times before--Whether it be visible in his script or not. (Why would it? There's no point in drawing attention to it.)
In any case it likely doesn't matter either way. Godzilla's 5th form was halted by the coagulate and it's still entirely possible it did enough damage to his body to render the emerging form inert and/or his body incapable of evolving in to more extreme forms--A direction I would prefer a Shin Godzilla sequel to take in order to maintain a more traditional Godzilla silhouette.
Posted Apr-14-2017 9:08 PM
If the coagulante worked fully, why was it still evolving after being frozen? We can look at this as an artistic view all day, but the film itself proves it has a purpose. Why wouldn't it?
I don't believe in this "continuity error." It wouldn't be there to begin with if it had no meaning or purpose. The fact is, it still happens after being frozen. They state in the film directly that the coagulante would only temporarily immobilized him.
Of course, I'm all about a traditional Godzilla silhouette. But, as you have stated multiple times, Shin Godzilla is more of a stand alone film.
Posted Apr-14-2017 9:22 PM
It's not known if Godzilla was taking a different form, evolving, or whatever. Before the coagulant took its effect on Godzilla, he must've tried to birth those things or split himself like Destoroyah, as a means of last resort or final line of defense to kill the humans because the humans had him beat. He knew he was beat, but him being frozen is only temporary as the film mentioned which is why they're using the nuclear bomb on him in hopes if he won't continue his evolution when he breaks from the ice. If there's to be a sequel, he may or may not continue that process, regardless whether the nuke works or not. Until than, all we can do is theorize and guess on what could ever happen next.
Posted Apr-14-2017 10:42 PM
"If the coagulante worked fully, why was it still evolving after being frozen?"
A) We can't be sure it was evolving after given Anno's penchant for saving dramatic shots at a later time. B) If it didn't work fully why aren't the fifth form creatures mobile? The whole problem with the theory that they sprouted after the fact is that we see them immobilized. So they either started sprouting from the tail before the coagulate took effect or they attempted to sprout after the fact somehow and failed to fully form due to the coagulate. There's really no other explanation outside of those two because the final shot clearly shows them frozen.
"We can look at this as an artistic view all day, but the film itself proves it has a purpose. Why wouldn't it?"
Indeed. And that purpose could very well be to just fool the audience through a continuity error so the scene has a great impact later.
"I don't believe in this "continuity error.""
That is your choice.
"The fact is, it still happens after being frozen. They state in the film directly that the coagulante would only temporarily immobilized him. "
Lets say the fifth form tried to sprout out of the tail after the coagulate took effect for some reason. That would still not change the fact that it froze the fifth form mid-transformation.
They said the coagulate is a temporary solution, yes, but they didn't go in to any side-effects it might have on Godzilla's body once he does wake up. This could lead to an excellent out for keeping Godzilla grounded in his current form and no longer capable of evolving into something less recognizable.
Posted Apr-14-2017 10:44 PM
Godzilla: King of the Monsters,
It has been confirmed that the creatures sprouting from Godzilla's tail was actually Godzilla 5th form: A collective of humanoid Godzillas that would have supposedly worked together much like humanity did to defeat him.
Posted Apr-15-2017 5:20 AM
I feel so honored when you quote my words. Just a reminder, I can do the same. Here we go.
"A) we can't be sure it was evolving after given Anno's penchant for saving dramatic shots a later time. B) if it didn't work fully why aren't the fifth form creatures mobile?"
You have said I have made my points with the final shots of this film. I can not take you seriously at this point.Anno might have decided to make it a dramatic shot, but there is not a given yes or no that that is what he wanted to do. As for the fifth form not moving, well, either Godzilla is frozen or he's recharging his energy. While recharging he wasn't moving. Plus the frozen image and the recharging image, when Godzilla is first recharging his energy, look a lot of alike.
"The whole problem with the theory that they sprouted after the fact is that we see them immobilized."
Correct. Again the fact is I've pointed out the images thoroughly and their differences. The fact is Jack, it happens after being frozen.
"So they either start sprouting from the tail before the coagulante took effect or they attempted to sprout after the fact somehow and failed to fully form due to the coagulante."
Again, the images and the film show it happens after being frozen. It's there. The tail tip, the color of Godzilla's skin, face positions are all changed by the shots. Now, that could be a continuity error if he was frozen first, somehow melted but was recharging instead. Remember once again, he wasn't moving while recharging earlier in the film.So this could be a continuity error after all. He might have been recharging instead of fully frozen.
"There's really no other explanation outside of those two because the final shot clearly shows them frozen."
There is no explanation unless that there is in fact a time gap. You can look at the image where he is completely frozen, and the final shot. They show Godzilla in a completely different stance. That's head position, mouth being different, tail tips being different, and most importantly, the color differences between the frozen shot and the recharging shot.
"Lets say the fifth form tried to sprout after the coagulante took effect for some reason. That would not change the fact that it froze the fifth form mid-transformation."
He can't be out of energy I'm assuming? Jack buddy, the film does what it does. The fact is, as I've pointed out, it does happen after being frozen, and again it could have a time gap there because he might have been recharging to make it look like he was still frozen.
Posted Apr-15-2017 6:28 AM
Apologies again for getting off topic. Me and Gman have discussions like this all the time. In fact, you should see our discussions on Twitter lol.
Hopefully you're learning more about the film now since we've gotten to discussing it.
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