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Random thoughts/questions/and fun fan theories

riggzamortis86

Nov-27-2017 12:22 PM

While watching ALL the Godzilla movies again in a month long marathon some questions and fan theories came about and I thought I would ask and share with all of you.

1) Can Godzilla and Rodan breath in outer space? Since the Xillians of Planet X brought Godzilla and Rodan from Earth to Planet X, it seems as though Godzilla and Rodan can breath where you see clearly Glen and Fuji cannot with out the help of the space suits they wore on the surface of Planet X. Also it brings to mind that Mothra can breath in outer space in the Heisei series. Spacegodzilla also brings to mind about a godzillian species being able to breath in space. What do you guys think?

2) My FAN theory on where Hedorah originated from. I think Hedorah was attached from whatever spacecraft the Cockroach aliens from Space Hunter M came on. The aliens revealed that they came from a planet much like ours but the dominant species there polluted the planet soo much it wiped themselves out. Perhaps Hedorah originated from this planet and Gigan was designed to cut through the hedorahs and exterminate them. A small group of Hedorahs came attached to the spacecraft they traveled in and once the M aliens landed the Hedorahs took to the sea and multiplied thanks to the air and sea pollution of Earth.

3) Mothra must not have a long life cycle as an adult. When we first see Mothra, she is dormant in her egg until her worshippers awake her to rescue the 2 fairies. Soon after she hatches she cocoons and then becomes an adult. 3 years later when asked if Mothra can help combat Godzilla in 1964 the fairies reveal that Mothra is dying. Fast forward after Godzilla kills the adult Mothra, her young continue to fight and beat Godzilla. We do not see Mothra in her adult form until Ebirah Horror of The Deep in 1967. So it looks like Mothra can live longer as a larvae rather than a adult. It looks like she can force herself to cocoon and become an adult in order to combat certain forces. One can argue that mothra in Ghidorah The Three Headed Monster didn't go through a metamorphises to become an adult to combat Ghidorah. My theory is that she didn't need to since Godzilla and Rodan where there to help. If Godzilla and Rodan didn't aid her, she may have forced herself to go through a metamorphosis to fight Ghidorah. MOthra knew that if she done that her life cycle would have ended much sooner like her mothers did. So my theory is that Mothra lives longer if she isn't forced into a metamorphosis prematurely. Once she is and adult she can force herself to be "asleep" to prolong her lifespan. That is why she is dormant in Ebirah Horror of the Deep until awoken by her worshippers prayers.

What do you all think? Am I reading too much into this or should I just go read a book and go to bed?

YOU.....DUMBBELL!

14 Responses to Random thoughts/questions/and fun fan theories

Draegar: The Hooded Figure

Nov-27-2017 12:56 PM

Your first question reminds me a lot of my topic concerning Rodan and space I did quite some ago.

As for your question after that, I see Mothra as like a goddess of sort, though she can be killed, but because of her divine-like powers, I do not see her in having any problems within the vacuum of space. As for Spacegodzilla, according to the Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla film, if I remember correctly, Godzilla's cells were pushed into a black hole, forming some type of crystal-like formations within, then pushed out of a white hole with the inclusion of energy from exploding stars, thus forming Spacegodzilla. So, because of that, Spacegodzilla, considering to how he came to be, would not have a problem in space since he happened to be one of the many contents created within the universe. But these are just my takes on what I think of it.

Nice topic, though.

riggzamortis86

Nov-27-2017 1:27 PM

^Thank you. Im just asking because I realize Godzilla and Rodan both seem to have no problem breathing on Planet X.

Since there is water on planet x, the only movie that touches how Godzilla can breath and where he can breath is Shin Gojira when they talk about where he can live and breath anywhere as long as it has oxygen. I know that sounds silly when I type it out, but since Planet x doesn't have our atmosphere and I see the astronauts using their spacesuits to breath, that tells me that no earthling can survive on the surface of planet x. But since water can be found on the surface maybe that's how Godzilla is able to breath. same with Rodan

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TheGMan123

Nov-27-2017 2:31 PM

Personally, I'd say that the oxygen content of Planet X is simply too low to be breathable by Humans, but daikaiju are just able to deal with that kind of stuff.

riggzamortis86

Nov-27-2017 2:45 PM

^that's what im trying to say without sounding like an idiot! thank you. But my still doesn't give me a satisfying answer to whether of not they can breath in space or not.

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The King of the Monsters

Nov-27-2017 3:03 PM

I think the most likely explanation is that Planet X's air is unsafe to breathe for humans, which is why they require spacesuits and helmets, but the Xiliens don't. Tomoyuki Tanaka's book, for what it's worth, says that Godzilla's lungs are able to work on other planets, allowing him to breathe normally in the different atmosphere of Planet X. I would assume the same goes for Rodan.

SpaceGodzilla is probably able to survive in the vacuum of space simply because he is the result of crystalline alien organisms absorbing Godzilla's cells. G-cells are likely able to remain alive in a vacuum, while the crystalline organisms that gave rise to SpaceGodzilla presumably survived in the vacuum of space to begin with.

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riggzamortis86

Nov-27-2017 3:14 PM

^you see that's the shit I want to hear. that makes sense to me. thank you

Anything in that book that talks about hedorah's origins or mothra's life span? 

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The King of the Monsters

Nov-27-2017 6:51 PM

Hedorah is always stated to have been brought to Earth in a comet as a colony of microorganisms. Upon landing in Japan, the microbes fed on pollution and began combining together into a larger single Hedorah. They never say specifically where Hedorah is from aside from outer space, but during a scene where two characters discuss his origins, the film shows this image of the "Dark Gaseous Nebula of the Orion":

As for Mothra's lifespan, I think it's just easy to interpret from the films that her lifespan isn't particularly long, and part of her divine/immortal nature is the fact that she is perpetually reborn through her egg. There's three different generations of Mothra in the Showa series alone, so she certainly doesn't seem to live a very long time.

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G. H. (Gman)

Nov-27-2017 9:11 PM

A page from this source book explains how Godzilla is able to survive on Planet X--Although it doesn't explain how Rodan did it.

 

 

Here's the translation:

"Godzilla's body comes with very amazing lungs which work on other planets. On the dark side of Jupiter, Godzilla has lived and function well on the outer space planet: Planet X.

While the exact function of Godzilla's lungs remain a mystery to an extent, his lungs can withhold massive in takes of oxygen, allowing him to release little oxygen for long periods of time without the need of respiration.

When Godzilla appeared on Planet X, he was awoken from a state of slumber. Despite coming from Earth, his movements and functionality remained unchanged under the lifeless atmosphere of Planet X. This is noted strongly since Godzilla was also still capable of using the atomic energy inside his body."

On the same subject, from another book by Tomoyuki Tanaka, it's revealed the Showa Godzilla also had gills:

The King of the Monsters

Nov-28-2017 9:35 AM

^ Those actually both come from the same book, Tomoyuki Tanaka's Definitive Godzilla Introduction. MyKaiju.com uploaded a translation of a large part of the book.

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riggzamortis86

Nov-28-2017 10:35 AM

ah! I need that book and spend my life translating it. thank you both @Gman and @The King Of The Monsters!

I know that hedorah is hypothesized in the film, but that was the professors opinion of where hedorah came from. I realize im taking a lot of liberties here, but I feel like hedorah could have come from Space Hunter M. Their planet was polluted and uninhabitable thanks to the species that polluted it in the first place.

I thought it would make sense that Gigan would make an excellent hedorah exterminator given his physical abilities to cut through anything.

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G. H. (Gman)

Nov-28-2017 4:55 PM

I think, based on traditional storytelling mechanisms, we the audience are to assume these characters' "theories" are fact unless said otherwise on film. If not, it'd be easy to throw Dr. Yamane's theory about Godzilla's origins to the wind and claim he was from outer space. (Which A Space Godzilla nearly did anyway, but thank God for confirmation from source books, I guess.)

Interestingly, the writers for the IDW comic had a brilliant idea about Gigan's origins that included him being the protector of his home planet. After so many cybernetic enhancements from the race that worshiped him (due to constant battle wounds) he went crazy - wild and hungered for power. Eventually he exterminated his home planet.

Unfortunately Toho shot the whole idea down.

riggzamortis86

Nov-28-2017 5:53 PM

That would be cool! Well I get that. I just thought my random thought and theory would be a fun topic. 

Your right though, thank god(zilla) for source material. 

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G. H. (Gman)

Nov-28-2017 8:12 PM

I mean, there's still plenty to theorize about I suppose. Or create headcanon.

riggzamortis86

Nov-30-2017 12:24 PM

So upon watching Godzilla, Mothra Battle for Earth, I realize that in the ending Mothra goes out into outer space to stop an asteroid from hitting Earth. Battra wanted to stop it but Mothra kept her promise and went out to stop it.

My fan theory is that that asteroid is Spacegodzilla coming to Earth. Mothra realizes that she cant stop Spacegodzilla and turns herself into Fairy Mothra to go back to Earth to warn Miki of the on coming space monster. The series never comments on Mothra stopping the asteroid so I assume we know its Spacegodzilla. Therefore my theory is that Biollante is the culprit for creating Spacegodzilla, not Mothra.

Just throwing this out there for discussion.

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