MonsterVerse Monsters: Who do you want?

I'm really hoping we get a solo Mothra movie, with or without Battra. I think it'd be the one movie in the MonsterVerse that is kind of "out there" I like to picture it as Kong Skull Island meets Avatar. Mothra could also help to appeal to the female audience as well, in a genre that pretty much only men watch. 

The Legend of Brian,
I can appreciate that sentiment, certainly, but when the new stuff is so incredibly underwhelming compared to the tried and true you lose hope after awhile. There's a reason Mothra and King Ghidorah returned after Orga and Megaguirus--Both of which rank among some of the most forgettable monsters in the series... Next to the MUTO, really.

I thought the Skullcrawlers were okay, to be fair, but completely unremarkable--And that's a problem. If these things don't wow me or look like something worthy of Godzilla's (or Kong's) attention I begin wondering why they even bothered at all--It's too underwhelming. Conversely, perhaps underwhelming is what was needed for Godzilla's first film in this series. I suppose they need not upstage him in a more proper return to Hollywood. Still, pairing him with the MUTO was like sitting Christopher Plummer next to Hayden Christensen in a Shakespearean drama. Only one is going to benefit from that and be interesting.

If Legendary can surprise us with some really neat, memorable creatures then I'm all for it. They were beating around the bush with Pacific Rim, but the Monsterverse in nowhere near the mainland and I simply can't get excited about the prospect of new creatures from them.

Gman,

I can see where you're coming from as well. I agree that most of the creatures thus far have been underwhelming, but that's why I felt that of the Millennium and Heisei movies were retreads. 

I think part of the reason is that we've had some of these classic monsters for decades. I'd imagine if Godzilla 2014 was your first Godzilla movie, the MUTOs would seem pretty darn cool. It's hard to get excited for new things when they aren't reminiscent of what came before. I think Legendary also put themselves in a box by describing the creatures in the Monsterverse as naturally occurring. Sure they could work their way out (aliens, mutants, etc.) of it if that's where the money is, but I don't most audiences would as readily accept it as most Godzilla would. There's no Guardians of the Galaxy to bridge that gap in the Monsterverse.  

And what exactly does that mean (and I am asking this for people who haven't seen Guardians of the Galaxy)?

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Many thought that GOTG is going to be Marvel's epic fail and boy they were wrong.

So the reverse effect of the 1998 Godzilla movie.

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idk what you're trying to say but let's just get back to the main topic.

I know. My little sister typed that in, sorry. But anyway, I think that if the Monsterverse is going to have any new monsters in it, they should make original mechanical monsters. They were doing something similar in Pacific Rim, so it doesn't seem crazy to do the same thing for the Monsterverse. Who agrees with me?

That would kinda steal Pacific Rim's thunder tho, maybe is just me.

Edit: Although If Legendary wanted to introduce mechs in the MonsterVerse then I want them to introduce Jet Jaguar for very stupid reason that I won't go over.

Pacific Rim has far more satisfying original monsters. If future Monsterverse movies are made and they go the original monster route, they need to consult del Toro and his design team--Not necessarily to create carbon copies, but to find a better philosophy for designing these things.

On the flip side, I'm far more interested in original monsters from Toho. I think Shin Godzilla could potentially set itself up for interesting original creations--And Higuchi hires far better designers than the team Edwards and Vogt-Roberts pulled in.

That I can agree with. If Toho takes the charge with making new monsters and the Monsterverse does get stuck with the old favorites, I'd be mostly satisfied. I think if we do get a sequel to Shin Godzilla, we could get the best original monster since Biollante. 

 Tbh tho, Pacific Rim Monsters(NOT ALL OF THEM) never honestly "wow" me, well yes sure some of them do look somewhat original but some of them also look somewhat generic or a mix both.

I think Pacific Rim kaijus represent the best reimagined classic kaijus of the 2 franchises. The mix and match of the monsters strikes a great chord with me. What del Toro did was amazing, I only wish this carried on into the Legendary Godzilla movie. That movie made me an anti-Edwards fan.

I just hope Dougherty can deliver a great movie and design into the monsters he is directing. I think KOTM will bring this Monsterverse into a great new light!

riggzamortis86,
Massively agree. Pacific Rim's kaiju designs aren't the best designs ever, but they're leaps and bounds better than the MUTO and Skullcrawlers. In an interview del Toro explained that the philosophy to designing them was to create them in a way that could also be brought to life through suitmation. The design team found that the philosophy expanded they're creativity, rather than limit it, because they were able to bring to life fuller, bulkier creatures that Hollywood usually steers away from.

Knifehead is probably my favorite new kaiju since Iris.

^KNIFEHEAD FOR PRESIDENT!

haha, but I sincerely hope Dougherty takes a page or 2 from del Toro, instead of anything Edwards did for the franchise. Don't get me wrong Edwards can be an ok director. I watched his movie Monsters and I thought it was pretty good. Not close to a favorite, but it was ok. But with Godzilla I thought, "Well they cant screw this up all that bad can they?", I was disappointed and let down. Honestly, before we all the saw the movie and the teaser trailers were out, I thought the images in the trailer and the story and the way it was portraying Godzilla was better than the actual movie. Silly right?

Point being is that Pacific Rim is great both with story and design, and for a franchise to mimic another franchise and do it better is amazing! Legendary Godzilla has a lot to live up to more than ever. If Godzilla were to be the only franchise featuring kaiju running right now, maybe I wouldn't be so picky, Pacific Rim set the bar higher for me. Lets hope 2019 brings in a great monster movie.

Fingers crossed for 2019 and 2020.

Knifehead?, I mean he's not bad but his design honestly didn't "wow" me, probably because he was a quickly thrown away.

Knifehead reminds me a lot of Guiron from Gamera fame. I like that monster most out of the whole showa series of gamera. Until Iris came around.

Agreed again. Knifehead had a lot of Showa series influence to him and immediately stood out compared to even the other kaiju in Pacific Rim. He had a great, bulky silhouette, imposing head design and actually looked like something that would tear those jaegers in two--And it nearly did! The opening fight sequence was incredibly suspenseful. 

I'll take Knifehead any day over MUTO or Skullcrawlers. No contest at all.

Same here. He even looks better than Slattern, and we only saw him for a few scenes (or minutes, I'm not sure which).

MinecraftDinoKaiju,
Completely agree. Slattern was a little too over-designed and muddled looking to remember for my money. Knifehead was simpler, but very effective.

Whatever you guys say, my personal favorite is Otachi.

Gotta agree with the majority here, KnifeHead is also my favorite. Otachi does come in second though. Very Rodan-esque but still original enough. With Pacific Rim, it was hands down the most fun I've had watching a monster movie in theatres since Godzilla 2000(first g movie I ever saw in a theatre). If you weren't a Godzilla fan, it would've been pretty easy to fall asleep watching the 2014 movie

If they were to get the rights to Toho monsters, I’d love to see Anguirus, Manda, and Mechagodzilla. But original monsters are cool as well. 

As far as Pacific Rim goes, I really loved the designs of the monsters, and I have to agree with y'all that Knifehead was my favorite, but I also loved Trespasser's design.

I'm all for original monsters in the Monsterverse, as long as they're memorable. I'd just love to see what old classics like Anguirus and Manda would look with Hollywood special effects.

I'd  appreciate seeing forgotten kaiju given a stronger chance, and perhaps make them stronger in the process. Some notable ones I'd live to see are:

Manda, Varan, Titanosaurus, And I'd kill to see a movie with Godzilla Unleashed (Wii Edition)'s Krystalak.

I enjoyed the MUTOs designs. It’s original and looks really epic. It’s kinda hard to be original these days when everyone has already thought of everything so the creators did their best and put a spin on it like all the others tried to do. Can’t fault them and say they are less creative than Toho. Anyway, I would enjoy seeing 1998 Godzilla. If I can get a him, I would be pretty happy. He needs another big screen appearance. Hopefully it would wash away the pointless hate he gets.

One of the big selling points of the 2014 movie was to create goodwill with the fans--That meant straying as far from the 98 flick as possible. If we ever see Zilla again it will likely be in a Toho movie before a Hollywood flick. But I don't expect him to ever return to the screen. Even his "return" in 2004 was for a film that flopped hard, so there's not a lot of intensive for Toho either.

I disagree, zilla has been done right multiple time in the comics and has turned many fans to love him. Not to mention I think one way of showing growth and betterment is accepting past mistakes and fixing them if possible. Giving zilla a major movie appearance and making him better than his original by sizing him up and give him better durability would really show the audience that they understand their mistakes and will not make them again. Not to mention his design is already epic and he is many Americans first Godzilla movie, including my own. You got to show respect for him in that regard at least. 

I don't respect bad movies made with contempt for franchises. Both Toho and, by extension Legendary, grew by accepting that the 1998 movie was a mistake and they showed that understanding by leaving it in the past and doing something with more respect and love for the material.

Zilla's done and over with. He'll be seen in more comics and supplementary material I'm sure. But the powers that be have already accepted the mistake and have shown that they understand it by making better movies.

I would not call it a bad movie, it was a basic monster movie. I don’t believe it was made in contempt either. It was made for Americans who have a different taste in movies than the Japanese. Toho and Roland were both at fault for it being a failure Godzilla movie. They allowed for people who did not understand or truly care for Godzilla to direct and make a Godzilla movie. Toho could have stepped in anytime, they gave the thumbs up for the movie. They don’t hate zilla, if they did why keep putting him out there? Why not put him in the movie as a minor titan? Who cares about what the pissy annoying zilla haters say. He is an awesome monster who was determined to not be Godzilla long ago. Get over it I say. He deserves more love. What I said in the previous comment still stands.