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Ready Player One Kaiju Spoilers

Ready Player One Kaiju Spoilers

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NateZilla10000

Mar-29-2018 11:45 PM

Back from seeing Ready Player One and ready to drop Kaiju spoilers.

If you dont want kaiju spoilers, then boy are you in the wrong forum.

First,

The Bad News

Someone trolled hard. Most of the rumored kaiju dont show; in fact only 1 does.

But from here on, it's only-

Good News
MechaGodzilla shows up!

Better News

He's got a sweet new design! Appears to be based off the 2014 Godzilla (are you teasing us, Warner Bros?) And, HE'S GOT FINGA MISSILES!

BEST NEWS

Godzilla's 1954 main title theme, revamped by composer Alvin Silvestri, accompanies MechaG.

BADASS NEWS

MechaG vs. Iron Giant.........and Gundam. Kickass.


So there you have it.

 

As for the movie itself (opinion warning), it's basically what you expect from the trailers: characters were rather stale cut-outs, and the Oasis is certainly the best part of the movie; easter eggs are EVERYWHERE. Overall, it's a fun ride. Once you get past all the unnecessary narration, you have a decent popcorn flick.

Don't expect a masterpiece, go for the Oasis, stay for MechaG, and you'll enjoy yourself just fine. :)

78 Responses to Ready Player One Kaiju Spoilers

riggzamortis86

Apr-06-2018 1:28 PM

whether or not Monarch puts each MUTO in its own class of MUTO, then we can discuss this in a different light. Godzilla in 2014 was given a name back in 1954 in order to give it a name. Name and classification are different. Godzilla is its name, MUTO is its classification. Kong was given his name by the tribe he shared an island with. He too shares in the class MUTO.

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EmptyH #TeamMothra

Apr-06-2018 5:36 PM

Sorry I am late to this party. I missed all the discussions except the Kaiju thing, which refers to Japanese monsters and not those outside.

 

Okay, when that Godzilla theme hit with Mechagodzilla it was crazy how great it worked. I am looking forward to whenever this comes out on whatever streaming service so I can fast forward to that part and hear/see it again.

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G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

Apr-08-2018 3:58 PM

Just like King Kong moves from classification to another in the monster world from kaiju to MUTO to giant monster, respectively. Godzilla also shares the privilege of nomad between monster universes.

Its not that I don't think less of G14 for it. Its just the way it goes. He still is Godzilla no matter what country makes a movie about him(once again excluding 98 zilla). Its like when an athlete goes and plays for another team. They are still the same athlete, just playing for a different team and city.


Strong rebuttal, riggzamortis86. Don't think I could have drawn a better comparison or have any more to add that helps. Well said.

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G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

Apr-08-2018 4:03 PM

EmptyH,
At most you can listen to it again. The Godzilla Theme here pretty much proves it's a timeless piece that can work in a modern movie and would absolutely fit the MonsterVerse:

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"It wouldn't be a true Godzilla film if you didn't touch upon those things. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true Godzilla fan." - Mike Dougherty, fellow gatekeeper-elitist ;)


NateZilla10000

Apr-08-2018 5:08 PM

"They are still the same athlete, just playing for a different team and city."

But at the end of the day, they're still an athlete. A Japanese baseball player is as much a baseball player as an American baseball player; the nationalities do not change what they are.

I understand classifying Godzilla as a MUTO in universe, but not classifying Godzilla 2014 in general as a kaiju still befuddles me. If we agree that Godzilla 2014 is Godzilla, and that Godzilla at his core is the modern definition of a kaiju, then how is it at all possible that an incarnation of Godzilla isn't a kaiju?

G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

Apr-08-2018 7:05 PM

NateZilla10000,
The same way that the Japanese incarnation of Kong is a kaiju and not merely a "giant monster". I suppose one could argue that he's both, given the crossover, does the monster itself leave its cultural roots? Perhaps not, but while a Japanese athlete can be just as much of an athlete as an American, the fact is, one is still Japanese and the other is American.

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"It wouldn't be a true Godzilla film if you didn't touch upon those things. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true Godzilla fan." - Mike Dougherty, fellow gatekeeper-elitist ;)


NateZilla10000

Apr-08-2018 7:38 PM

See but the reason I see the King Kong from Toho as a kaiju while, say, the 2005 Kong remains merely a giant monster is because Toho's Kong is clearly different from being just a giant gorilla. He's upright, has a contorted face, and he's supercharged by lightning. Meanwhile Percy Jackson's Kong is just a giant silverback. There are clear characteristics outside of nationality that make these two different.

"while a Japanese athlete can be just as much of an athlete as an American, the fact is, one is still Japanese and the other is American."

Of course. I'm not arguing the individual nationality. But what I'm saying is that the label of being an athlete does not change with nationality. But all of a sudden, a monster's country of origin does change what it's labeled as? That doesn't make sense.

The King of the Monsters

Apr-08-2018 11:10 PM

A bit late to the discussion, but I've never had a problem with using the word "kaiju" to describe a creature specifically patterned after and meant to emulate the kaiju genre, regardless of its country of origin. Usually if it's something that is most often called a kaiju in Japan, I don't have a problem with calling it a kaiju in the context of English as long as it is very clearly intentionally meant to be like one. The best example I point to is Gorgo. His film was released as Kaiju Gorgo in Japan, and to this day he is unique among western monsters for being considered a true "kaiju" in the exact same vein as Gappa, Guilala, etc. Gorgo occasionally receives merchandise in lines that cover Japanese-only monsters and the film is often played in double features along with Gappa and other movies like that. I'd say Gorgo is an exception and not the rule, but he's still very evidently considered to belong to the same genre in the genre's country of origin, and the filmmakers behind Gorgo were very obviously emulating the kaiju eiga of Japan.

There is a gray area though where some terms are used universally for something in Japan while in the west they are specific to the Japanese variant of that thing alone. Examples being all animation being called anime, supervillains and mutants being called kaijin, and many types of special effects around the world being called tokusatsu. I get why there's a concern that the term can become way too watered down, because a lot of people are using it for every new Hollywood giant monster that comes along.

The thing is kaiju isn't really used for every giant monster in Japan. From what I've learned going through Japanese websites and books for Wikizilla, Japanese and western monsters of many sizes are often just called monsutaa, with other monsters being called anything from bakemono, kaibutsu, obake, and so on. Kaiju is still a relatively selective term among monsters in Japan, even if its literal meaning could be applied to any "strange beast." It's usually used for the Japanese giant monsters we all think of from Godzilla, Ultraman, Gamera, etc. But it was also used for King Kong and the Rhedosaurus, who both came before Godzilla really defined the term. Since then, it's only really used in Japan for non-Japanese monsters that clearly are based on and attempt to emulate what are universally seen as kaiju. Examples being Gorgo, Reptilicus, Yonggary, Clover, the M.U.T.O.s, and so on. The monsters from the upcoming Rampage movie are being called kyoju (giant beasts) in the film's Japanese title and marketing, so the term kaiju isn't being applied to them even in Japan.

So to sum up, I'm not really opposed to using the term kaiju for monsters like Clover, Gorgo, or even King Kong. These are monsters that, in the case of Gorgo and Clover, came about because western filmmakers were directly inspired by kaiju eiga and wanted to do their own takes on the concept, and as a result are unambiguously considered kaiju in Japan. In Clover's case it's even more explicit with the tie-in Cloverfield/KISHIN manga, which went out of its way to follow many more standard Japanese kaiju tropes. J.J. Abrams was adamant about how Clover only existed because of kaiju eiga, and ensured that the film received special treatment in Japan, with exclusive merchandise, artwork, and other things not released for the film anywhere else. In Kong's case, he arguably helped define the term before it was finally applied to and cemented by Godzilla. And since then he has been incorporated into Japanese media and unambiguously made a kaiju in Toho's library.

That's just my two cents. I understand why some people are concerned that the term is being watered down and losing its meaning, but I personally think there are some cases where the term "kaiju" is appropriate for monsters that may not necessarily be Japanese in origin.

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MinecraftDinoKaiju #TeamGodzilla

Apr-11-2018 8:36 PM

I didn't like how MG was just in essence Godzilla 2014 with finger missiles.It looked cool at first, but now I just wished they didn't do that and gave him Showa MG's abilities. And I didn't like how some of the kaiju cameos were obscure and go by so fast. I'm sorry, but it just didn't fit with me to have this limited of a kaiju list when it came to a movie with so many pop-culture references. ( Btw 80's references good at first, but then it gets cringier after a few, imo. Hope they don't have as many if the movie gets a sequel. ) Although when I went to see and left the movie, I kept thinking this question: Should we consider them as versions of these monsters on the list or are they too non-canon to be considered such?

NateZilla10000

Apr-11-2018 8:39 PM

MecahG is the only one to consider.

Godzilla, Gigan, Clover, Gamera, etc. where all fake rumors. They don't appear at all.

Something Real

Apr-11-2018 9:39 PM

GENTLEMEN - I honestly never considered the fact that Godzilla (in Edwards' film) is technically a MUTO and not a Kaiju! That is quite neat! :)

riggzamortis86

Apr-12-2018 6:51 AM

^Its still up for debate at this point, but I'm just going with what G14 and K:SI are trying to elaborate on with the term M.U.T.O. Thank you! There is clearly a divide with fans on the subject, but it is my understanding(and at this point my own opinion) that G14 and Kong and all other monsters featured in the upcoming two films are in a M.U.T.O. classification according to Monarch in the films.

Unless Dougherty gets rid of the whole mythos behind Monarchs terms in the next film and gives the whole thing a different meaning then it really is any bodies interpretation.   

 

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MinecraftDinoKaiju #TeamGodzilla

Apr-12-2018 6:41 PM

^

First of all, there needs to be a forum dedicated to this topic. And second, can we get back to the original topic? Thank you.

The Jurassic Bootleg

Apr-12-2018 8:51 PM

I have not seen the movie yet, I'm going to watch it when the DVD comes out, so I can pause the movie and look for every single easter egg, its the only best way to watch the movie(ok, I was just kidding about that part.).

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

TrapZilla #TeamGhidorah

Apr-13-2018 2:03 AM

Feel like half the people commenting on this haven’t even watched the movie smh. And when does K:SI ever mention MUTO’s? Who invented that boring ass word anyways? Hopefully Dougherty drops it and they just call the monsters by their real names. Also, somebody, anybody tell me when they call Godzilla a MUTO? He’s definitely already identified. So you can go ahead take that U out of MUTO.

All right all right all right

TrapZilla #TeamGhidorah

Apr-13-2018 2:18 AM

@minecraftdinokaiju not sure what you found “cringey” about it. I thought the references were the best parts of the movie, especially the shining sequence.

I also thought it made perfect sense to model MG after 2014. I mean isn’t every MechaGodzilla incarnation basically a carbon copy of whatever Godzilla is present during that time period??

All right all right all right

The Jurassic Bootleg

Apr-13-2018 6:38 AM

^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJdpZ4kwV80

Go to 0:30.

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

MinecraftDinoKaiju #TeamGodzilla

Apr-13-2018 10:15 AM

@TrapZilla The thing I found cringy was that the references kept appearing almost constantly. Except for the Delorean time machine, the shining sequence, and the chestbuster scene, most of the references, while cool every once in a while (including the songs), just kept piling one reference after another reference after a non-reference scene after another reference, and it just kept going.

And for that second part, tell that to Kiryu and the Godzilla from the Kiryu saga.

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