If you could only add 1 Toho Monster to the Monsterverse, which one would you add?
As the title asks - if you had the power to add just ONE Toho Monster to the Monsterverse, which one would you add and why?
Rodan, Mothra and Ghidorah are obviously excluded since they will already be appearing in KOTM.
For me, this one's a no-brainer: Gigan! Since I was a kid, growing up on the classic Toho films, Gigan has always been that antagonist Monster who I always gravitated towards. His design and abilities really kick ass and he is one of the few Monsters to actually make Godzilla bleed. He was also my Monster of choice whenever I played Godzilla: Save the Earth for PS2. The character, origins and potential for being a badass antagonist all factor in for me choosing Gigan over all the other Toho monsters.
I would also like to direct attention to KaijuWorld's awesome topic where they discuss how Gigan COULD be included into the Monsterverse - great topic if you haven't already checked it out.
So, Gigan is my pick. What's yours?
Mine would definitely be MechaGodzilla. If you look back at Tokyo SOS, Mothra(Adult and 2 babies), plus MechaG, they EASILY can kill Godzilla. And the MechaGodzilla in the showa series almost killed Godzilla. Without the help of the humans, Godzilla would have died to MechaGodzilla and Titanosaurus. Now, if they just normally challenged each other(Which I haven't seen the original movie), but made in like 2025 with enhanced Godzilla, I would like to see the winner.
first of all, thanks for the shoutout. :)
second of all, it is so hard for me to narrow it down to 1 kaiju for this question. I have 3 on my mind (Mechagodzilla, Gigan or Biollante), but I would have to say Mechagodzilla. I just really want the main 5 Toho monsters in this universe and Mechagodzilla is the only one (as of right now) left out.
btw, to anyone who says that a giant robot Godzilla is too unrealistic for the monsterverse, I say to them that this is the Sci-Fi genre. this genre is not meant to be realistic or believable. the monsterverse already has a giant lizard with atomic breath, a giant humanoid ape, a 3 headed dragon (possibly from space), etc. so why can't Mechagodzilla fit in.
still waiting for a good modern kaiju game. *sigh*
That is a tough choice. There are so many others I want. I guess my top choice would be Anguirus. He's one of my personal favorites and I would love to see him and Godzilla fight side by side again.
For me, even though personally I would really like to see some sort of Godzilla Jr. in the Monsterverse, I would have to go with Mechagodzilla, simply to have all of the "Big 5" be included in the Monsterverse.
Probably Mechagodzilla or Gigan. Both would be a little hard to fit in, but bot would work so well. For mechagodzilla, we already saw how amazing he looked in Ready Player One, so seeing him against the gang would be sick.
Biollante would be my second choice. Was a close call between Her and Gigan. Seeing a lot of people choosing Anguirus!
Since there was confirmation of the oxygen destroyer, I think it would be nice to see Destroyah could fit. Hell apparently there an end credit scene with charles dance character receiving a crab form of destroyah but that's just a rumor.
The gargantuas would be cool...also mechagodzilla, wonder if they could buy the rights to gammara
Definitely Gigan, he's always been a favorite of mine, and it would be interesting to see how Legendary would implement him into the Monsterverse
Gigan or destroyah . Those two would look awesome and would Godzilla 's greatest opponents by far.
Anguirus is probably my favorite but I feel like he's going to be introduced soon anyway. Maybe Manda cause I always thought he was cool but I'm not sure if he'll be in this version.
@KaijuWorld Ummm sci-fi doesn't equal to fantasy! remember there is science in the fiction and Legendary Godzilla's design was ment to be more "realistic" than Toho's design, hence why Legendary Godzilla has sauropod feet rather than fat theropod feet, also Godzilla is not a lizard, he is a dinosauromorph which are Archosaurs. Lizards are lepidosaurs; while both archosaurs and lepidosaurs are reptiles, they are two different clades of reptile. Its like the difference between placental mammals and marsupial mammals, but no one confuses an elephant with a kangaroo.
Mechagodzilla just doesn't make sense, not because its "unrealistic", but because its more of a why? Why would humanity especially the US military waste a shit ton of time, money, and resources to make a robot that looks just like godzilla? When you can make smaller and cheaper drones that can mosquito their way up to godzilla and strike his more vulnerable parts?
yeah, I didn't really state that the best way possible. what I was trying to say was that any monster (with some real science) can fit in the monsterverse. as you know I made a series based around this and am planning on bringing it back. I am going to try and redo Mechagodzilla after hearing others reactions. I already have some reasons WHY the military would make Mechagodzilla.
1. the humans have no way of protecting themselves. as stated in the trailer of king of the monsters "we are the infection and earth has sent a cure". they need something to fight back. this could also go with your drone idea, but this is where point 2 comes in.
2. even though that would be a good idea on paper, how are they going to know where a certain monsters' weak spot is. with these kinds of situations, time matters a lot. they need to fight with the 1 thing that is everything weakness and that is being weaker than your opponent. with a giant robot, they can work with an overall stronger force to punch these monsters back or kill them. and hey, maybe you can build drones into the robot for when they do find its weakness. the question now is why it looks like Godzilla, but this is where point 3 comes in.
3. the Kiryu saga explained it the best in my opinion. by using a Godzilla skeleton as the frame of Mechagodzilla. with the point of force being the only way to damage these monsters, the mech must be mobile and agile. this could only be done with human/Godzilla like limbs (especially the tail). put 1 and 2 together and you have a defense mechanism. maybe the monsterverses Godzilla has a skeleton so strong that it can hold tons and tons of weight. this could be the only way they can make a mech as heavy and big as the monsters.
btw, about it costing a lot of money and resources. well, I am not a math expert, but I think 1 giant metal robot would cost less than repairing a destroyed city which with Mechagodzilla could be prevented altogether.
Personally, think these points are enough explanation for why the military would build Mechagodzilla, but that is not up to me. maybe you have some opinions on these possible reasons. but after all the REAL question of this topic is do you want or would you like to see Mechagodzilla in the monsterverse?
still waiting for a good modern kaiju game. *sigh*
"Why would humanity especially the US military waste a shit ton of time, money, and resources to make a robot that looks just like godzilla?"
Because it's awesome and it's part of the genre. Deal with it or get out.
The whole point of mechagodzilla is just absurd. Why the hell would the Us Military build a robot around freaking bones! That is more of a japanese thing because they worship godzilla.
Alright, to build a mechagodzilla you would need an insane amount of metal to construct everything on and inside of it, metal frame, armor plating, gears, hydraulics, the nuclear casing for the reactors, etc. The Bones would only add unnecessary weight. I mean its the reason why we don't use ankylosaurus skeletons to build our M1 Abrams.
Also again I must reiterate the US Military isn't going to spend a shit ton of money on a damn Mechagodzilla, especially if we know mechagodzilla have a terrible track record as being failures. Drones are more efficient, we know Godzilla's weak spot is his gills, so they would target his gills.
If Drones fail, the US Military would probably either develop a MOAB pacifically for Godzilla or build a huge ass laser defense canon to vaporize Godzilla. If all that fails, the US Military would build an underground stronghold.
The only way that mechagodzilla would work, is if it was an alien construction.
Also your bones don't lift you, your muscles do because bone without muscles are brittle, bone on bone tend to shatter without the between softer tissue. Without the cartilage between the joints, your bones will crack and eventually break that is why people with no cartilage or damaged cartilage need knee, elbow, or hips replacements.
Also the US Military if they ever for some reason build a mechagodzilla, it be constructed a fraction of Godzilla's size. Because that is how the US military build their defense platforms. Also the US Military would definitely go for a more humanoid robot design like the Evangelions, Mobile Suits, or the Jeagers. These are far more adaptable weapon platforms than a using a dinosaur design.
"The whole point of mechagodzilla is just absurd."
Which is why it's awesome.
"Why the hell would the Us Military build a robot around freaking bones!"
It was explained why it was crucial to use the bones in the film. Snap to attention.
"If Drones fail, the US Military would probably either develop a MOAB pacifically for Godzilla or build a huge ass laser defense canon to vaporize Godzilla. If all that fails, the US Military would build an underground stronghold."
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how boring all of that is. Realism = boring.
This is the Godzilla series, not Interstellar. Get over it.
"The whole point of mechagodzilla is just absurd. Why the hell would the Us Military build a robot around freaking bones! That is more of a japanese thing because they worship godzilla."
If the world felt they saw no other means in combating giant monsters than to build giant monsters of their own. As to quote Raleigh Becket from Pacific Rim, "To fight monsters, we created monsters of our own."
"Alright, to build a mechagodzilla you would need an insane amount of metal to construct everything on and inside of it, metal frame, armor plating, gears, hydraulics, the nuclear casing for the reactors, etc. The Bones would only add unnecessary weight. I mean its the reason why we don't use ankylosaurus skeletons to build our M1 Abrams."
I see no problem in a Mechagodzilla being added to the MonsterVerse. There's nothing realistic about the MonsterVerse anyway nor are they taking their grounded approach to full seriousness. I would rather the MonsterVerse go down the Showa route: just have fun with it.
"Also again I must reiterate the US Military isn't going to spend a shit ton of money on a damn Mechagodzilla, especially if we know mechagodzilla have a terrible track record as being failures."
Said failures only happened due to interference from the aid of humans or monsters. Mechagodzilla is more than capable of ridding Godzilla on its own granted if Godzilla received no support from humans or special powers.
"Drones are more efficient, we know Godzilla's weak spot is his gills, so they would target his gills. If Drones fail, the US Military would probably either develop a MOAB pacifically for Godzilla or build a huge ass laser defense canon to vaporize Godzilla. If all that fails, the US Military would build an underground stronghold."
Conventional weaponry has no effect on Godzilla as shown through the past 60+ years of Godzilla films. Even a nuclear bomb isn't enough to take him down. Goes to show that it will take more than just specially designed conventional weaponry or nuclear bombs to take down Godzilla.
"The only way that mechagodzilla would work, is if it was an alien construction."
Not necessarily in my opinion.
"Anything you can imagine. Our galaxy has billions of stars. Each of those stars could have many worlds. Every world could be home to a different form of life. And every life is a special story of its own." ~ Stargazer
The whole point of mechagodzilla is just absurd.
And the hollow earth theory, a moth God, 3 headed dragon, and volcano Pterosaur, aren't? How about a lost island surrounded by perpetual storms full of strange creatures? If you're in the ride so far and Mechagodzilla takes it over the edge you might need to re-evaluate things
In all seriousness, I do see the story problems with coming up with convincing ways to make a MechaGodzilla--The Heisei version was the most difficult to buy. The Millennium version had to use much of its run time to establish the exposition of bio-clones and the need for using skeletons--But it still worked.
MechaGodzilla is absurd, but the entire genre is absurd. It was built on absurdity and if you can't embrace that, there's an exit for you somewhere. It all comes down to the correct writers. Just because MechaGodzilla is hard to legitimize, doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be done. If Toho can get away with it, so can Legendary with the right people.
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