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Godzilla: Final Wars Questions.

Godzilla: Final Wars Questions.

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KingOfTheMobsters

Oct-10-2018 10:05 AM

Hello, this is my first time here on these forums. I've been meaning to sign up for quite some time, but finally decided to. I know Gman Hudges from a Facebook Godzilla page, and I appreciate his overall Kaiju knowledge. However, we are in opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes to GFW. I absolutely adore GFW. 

IMO Gojira is the Godfather, while Godzilla Final Wars is Scarface of the Kaiju movies.

With that said, I wanted my first topic on the forums to be about my favorite Godzilla movie. It seems like every so often, questions do arise when I watch the movie. One of the many questions I have, that seems to be lingering for a long time is this one:

It is generally stated that Godzilla Final Wars is perhaps the strongest Godzilla on film alongside perhaps Burning Godzilla. However, in the last part of the movie, Keizer Guidorah basically easily killed GFW. I estimate Keizer Guidorah being about 3x more powerful that GFW.

I've read on occasions over the internet naming Final Goji charged with Keizer power (Unlimited power), Keizer Godzilla. Which I can agree with. This Keizer Godzilla I estimate to be about 3x more powerful than Keizer Guidorah. As thus, cementing once and for all that Godzilla is the one true King of all Monsters.

This Keizer Godzilla IMO could finally and convincingly defeat other characters like Ultraman, Ultra 7, King Kong, any version of Tchullu etc.

I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on this. Thanks everyone, and glad to be here!

 

18 Responses to Godzilla: Final Wars Questions.

MinecraftDinoKaiju #TeamGodzilla

Oct-12-2018 6:57 PM

Maybe, but I don't really think he could survive Burning Godzilla (alive or dead), or even Godzilla Earth. But other than that, he seems pretty overpowered, and I actually agree.

Tiamatzilla #TeamGhidorah

Oct-16-2018 5:27 PM

Godzilla 2000 is the strongest. 

KingOfTheMobsters

Oct-16-2018 5:57 PM

Tiamotzilla, what do you base your statement on? Just curious.

G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

Oct-16-2018 7:14 PM

What if Godzilla in Final Wars isn't that strong? What if the monsters he's plowing through are just weak?

The problem with power scaling fictional characters from different continuities is that there's no baseline to compare them with. For all we know Rodan, Anguirus and King Caesar are weaker than the Showa Kamacuras.

And again... they're fictional characters. The only reason that Burning Godzilla and GFW Godzilla seem so powerful is because they're written that way.

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"It wouldn't be a true Godzilla film if you didn't touch upon those things. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true Godzilla fan." - Mike Dougherty, fellow gatekeeper-elitist ;)


MinecraftDinoKaiju #TeamGodzilla

Oct-16-2018 9:34 PM

And what about your opinion on KingOfTheMobsters' statement about you, G.H. (Gman)? Also, have you seen (or can you please see and comment on) Xenotaris' Gojiverse forum?

G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

Oct-16-2018 10:21 PM

All he said was we don't agree on the film. He likes it and I think it's a dumpster fire. Not much more to say.

And no I haven't. I don't read much fan fiction anyway, but I don't really have much interest in stories without characters.

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"It wouldn't be a true Godzilla film if you didn't touch upon those things. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true Godzilla fan." - Mike Dougherty, fellow gatekeeper-elitist ;)


KingOfTheMobsters

Oct-17-2018 6:51 AM

Hey G.H I couldn't add you on Facebook. Send a request?

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=530810613

MinecraftDinoKaiju #TeamGodzilla

Oct-17-2018 9:04 PM

G. H. (Gman) Xenotaris' Gojiverse does have characters in it (a bunch of them, each with their own story lines), and I actually think it might be good enough and developed enough (even though it is still being written by Xenotaris) to become a prequel to something like Toho's "World of Godzilla" (At least, in my opinion.). You've got to check it out. Please.

I highly recommend it to everybody reading this, too. It's an interesting idea and it should get more attention.

Please?

G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

Oct-17-2018 9:23 PM

MinecraftDinoKaiju,
As best as I can tell it has monsters and dinosaurs which illustrate their own personas, but no actual characters. Just not my thing.

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"It wouldn't be a true Godzilla film if you didn't touch upon those things. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true Godzilla fan." - Mike Dougherty, fellow gatekeeper-elitist ;)


MinecraftDinoKaiju #TeamGodzilla

Oct-17-2018 9:44 PM

Ok, that's cool. But could you also leave a similar comment on it, please? Honestly, having it be just me and Xenotaris in the comments section of the forum is, for me, at least, kinda repetitive sometimes. A comment from someone besides us would really diversify the comments section more. But that's just me. Plus, he might appreciate it.

Draegar: The Hooded Figure #TeamGodzilla

Oct-18-2018 10:42 AM

FinalGoji, while a powerful variant of Godzilla, never struck me as the most powerful. Would Keizer Ghidorah have defeated Godzilla if not for Ozaki instilling his energy into Godzilla? Perhaps. Then again, Keizer Ghidorah is no different from the other monsters who have come close to defeating Godzilla but only to be defeated themselves in the end. The only difference was the method of approach.

"Stories that end happily and tidily don't exist in real life. That's just fantasy."

MinecraftDinoKaiju #TeamGodzilla

Oct-18-2018 10:52 AM

^

In that case (for both parts), I'll only say this: To each his own.

Im Durp #TeamRodan

Oct-19-2018 10:59 AM

I think Final Wars is almost a parody style bottom 5 g movie. I also don't find the monsters from what we see to be particularly powerful, in comparison and not sure where they base estimates are coming from. What makes Keizer Godzilla 3x more powerful, and what makes you think Keizer Ghidorah is 3x more powerful than FWG? That's a pretty large difference, and not sure where the jumps come from.

G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

Oct-19-2018 11:38 AM

The only baseline we have to go off of is Toho advertised Monster X as Godzilla's "strongest" opponent in the entire series. Of course they also called Shin Godzilla the most powerful incarnation in the franchise--So Toho says a lot of things.

Still, from an official standpoint, it's all we have to go on.

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"It wouldn't be a true Godzilla film if you didn't touch upon those things. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true Godzilla fan." - Mike Dougherty, fellow gatekeeper-elitist ;)


EmptyH #TeamMothra

Oct-19-2018 3:37 PM

Like GMan has already stated, it's pretty much impossible to compare these things over different movies and especially different eras. Also, what narrative point is there to? If you were to ask "Does the embodiment of dead Japanese soldiers rank stronger than the embodiment of human pollution (GMK Godzilla vs. Hedorah)" I would see that as an interesting discussion topic and dive right in.

Host of the podcast Giant Monster Messages where we watch EVERY giant monster film and look for the messages.

G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

Oct-19-2018 3:42 PM

EmptyH,
Agreed 120%.

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"It wouldn't be a true Godzilla film if you didn't touch upon those things. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true Godzilla fan." - Mike Dougherty, fellow gatekeeper-elitist ;)


Godzilla's_Tail79 #TeamGodzilla

Dec-07-2018 9:55 AM

I'm not too educated on Godzilla's various power levels across the films but I agree that Final Wars is probably my third favorite Godzilla film besides Gojira and Shin Godzilla. The part where he fights King Caesar, Anguirus and Rodan at the same time (and King Caesar uses Anguirus as a soccer ball) is probably the greatest kaiju battle put to film I have yet seen. 

KingOfTheMobsters

Dec-16-2018 9:44 PM

If we go by weight and size, the monsters in Godzilla: Final Wars are very much probably stronger than their past counterparts.

There are too many forums and topics detailing the feats of Final Goji, that it would be quite tiresome to state them again.

My original question had to do with trying to find a number to scale how powerful Keizer Godzilla is, instead of the "unlimited power" route.

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