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Rumors that Kong will defeat Godzilla?

Rumors that Kong will defeat Godzilla?

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hawk4117

May-21-2020 4:31 PM

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There seems to be substantial rumors that Kong will indeed win “the battle” against the mighty Godzilla. It also appears due to some key sources that they will both team up to face a couple of so called “villain adversaries” such as Mecha-Godzilla and or Mecha-Ghidorah.  Although I don’t fully believe in all of the latest plot /spoiler leaks and rumors, I do find a couple of them with some merit. If Kong is too win though, I just hope that the writers have it as a good clean tough battle, where no one is killed or maimed, and where there will be some kind of sign or gesture of respect from both of them towards one another after their battle. Then watching them both team up to fight whoever the bad villain maybe, would be entertaining.  I’m a big Godzilla fan, and believe me I hate the thought of Kong winning.  If this storyline is crowning Kong as the new King of the Monsters, then I will be pissed!  I may never watch MonsterVerse again! To me Godzilla will always be King of the Monsters!  Let Kong be King on his Island and let’s leave it at that. After all Godzilla is trouncing on Kong’s turf.  What are your thoughts?

51 Responses to Rumors that Kong will defeat Godzilla?

SarcasticGoji #TeamGodzilla

May-21-2020 7:41 PM

If Godzilla rules the Titans, isn’t Kong’s turf actually Goji’s. I don’t want Kong to win either. The definitive winner thing is killing my brain. I just noticed something. Gojira sounds more natural than Godzilla to me.

"There ought to be a better way to start the day than getting up."

-Charlie Brown

hawk4117

May-22-2020 8:46 AM

Good point. Not sure about that. I always thought Skull Island belonged to Kong, but I could be wrong. So far the only monsters I have seen on skull island is skull crawlers, a giant octopus and some average sized dinosaurs. Oh, and a giant spider? Lol The definitive winner thing is driving me crazy too! Again, if Kong is too win, then the writers better get it right, cause if not, I will totally divorce MonsterVerse!

G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

May-22-2020 11:40 AM

I have suspicions this will be the last Monsterverse movie anyway, so no worries there.

Personally, I don't care who wins as long as the movie's good.

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"It wouldn't be a true Godzilla film if you didn't touch upon those things. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true Godzilla fan." - Mike Dougherty, fellow gatekeeper-elitist ;)


SarcasticGoji #TeamGodzilla

May-22-2020 11:46 AM

I think that if the movie is good, and makes a lot of money, then MonsterVerse will definitely continue.I just want Godzilla to win.

"There ought to be a better way to start the day than getting up."

-Charlie Brown

JurassicKaiju14 #TeamGodzilla

May-22-2020 12:47 PM

G. H. (Gman) "I have suspicions this will be the last Monsterverse movie anyway, so no worries there.

Personally, I don't care who wins as long as the movie's good."

Same here, honestly. Personally I'm rooting for Godzilla, but if Kong wins then I'm not gonna throw a hissy-fit over it unless the way it happens is really stupid or something. But even then, I won't necessarily scream my rage about it over the forums. We have too much of that in this world as it is.

A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.

hawk4117

May-22-2020 1:45 PM

I agree. I too want to see a good movie and a good fight, but if the ending is such that Kong wins and it's done in bad taste, where they would even kill off Godzilla, then I personally would have no more interest or Faith in MonsterVerse. How could you have MonsterVerse in the first place without the mighty Lizard! Lol Let's be practical.  There's two big fan bases to both these Titans. That's a good chunk of money the Movie producers, writers, directors, etc can make by keeping both of them alive and keep both fan bases interested enough to keep coming back to MonsterVerse, regardless of who’s the winner. (Just keep both of them alive!) I just pray they get it right!

G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

May-22-2020 4:06 PM

That "good chunk of money" didn't get made with King of the Monsters last year though. As of right now Kong: Skull Island made more money world wide than either of the Monsterverse Godzilla movies. And Godzilla vs. Kong is facing major competition in November from James Bond, Black Widow and a Pixar film opening on the same day. Furthermore, as of at least 3 years ago, Legendary's agreement with Toho ends at the end of 2020.

Things could change, of course, but I'd be happy if this is the last Monsterverse movie and we move on to something else.

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"It wouldn't be a true Godzilla film if you didn't touch upon those things. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true Godzilla fan." - Mike Dougherty, fellow gatekeeper-elitist ;)


SarcasticGoji #TeamGodzilla

May-22-2020 10:20 PM

Even if Kong wins, I’d probably still watch the movies because Gojira would probably still be in it. I just want Gojira to win. As for Monstervesre ending, yes that is probably most likely and for the best. As for moving on, I don’t want another long gap between movies. Toho’s Shinverse is probably not going to happen, and may never come out of development. I’m worried that the release are gonna get pushed again, we all thought the COVID thing would be over by now but it’s still here. But it’s likely the movies will still compete. When this ends, I wonder if we are still going to movie theaters. Movies are just releasing on TV and other media. I also think this push back for G vs K is for the best, as it would give the marketing campaign a good amount of time to release the trailer.

"There ought to be a better way to start the day than getting up."

-Charlie Brown

G. H. (Gman) #TeamGhidorah

May-22-2020 10:30 PM

Toho never said they were moving forward with a sequel to Shin Godzilla. A producer only mentioned the possibility of their own Godzilla shared universe.

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"It wouldn't be a true Godzilla film if you didn't touch upon those things. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true Godzilla fan." - Mike Dougherty, fellow gatekeeper-elitist ;)


dk

May-23-2020 2:40 AM

I agree with the OP and many comments here. Maybe thinking in terms of winning and losing is wrong if both survive and have mutual respect. It might be more about a truce. I have no idea how to deal with the Titans though.

Leto #TeamMothra

May-23-2020 3:24 AM

They have to make two endings of the film - in one Godzilla wins, in the second Kong.

And then randomly distribute these versions of films among theaters and the world! Let it be a surprise!

dk

May-23-2020 10:48 PM

Leto That is an interesting concept, but imagine how raged Kong fans would be if they happened to see the one where Godzilla fries Kong- and vise versa, especially if the version was unannounced. That would be a ballsy move for the movie makers and theaters but the hostilities from fanboys could become its own form of entertainment :D

JurassicKaiju14 #TeamGodzilla

May-24-2020 4:06 AM

Leto I don't really like this idea, to be honest. I think it should be one or the other, and let it be what it is.

A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.

Monster_Zero 2112 #TeamGodzilla

May-24-2020 10:36 PM

I think one of them dies because it says on the poster”One Will Fall” but that’s just my opinion.

SarcasticGoji #TeamGodzilla

May-25-2020 7:05 PM

Fall doesn’t always mean die.

"There ought to be a better way to start the day than getting up."

-Charlie Brown

Monster_Zero 2112 #TeamGodzilla

May-25-2020 9:24 PM

True. It could mean that one of them will be defeated.

hawk4117

May-26-2020 2:56 PM

Yes it's been rumored that one will fall but the storyline portrays them also teaming up to fight some villain titans. It does appear that Kong will win based on substantial rumors, but I doubt he will kill off Godzilla. There are too many other battles the mighty Godzilla can pursue such as Destoroyah, Biollante, Gigan and or one of the two Mecha’s. I sure hope the upcoming movie redeems itself in the box office for Legendary. If it is a big hit and a money maker, then maybe another one or two movies could be a possibility for other battles?  I wouldn’t say the last Godzilla:King of the Monsters was a flop though. Sure it fell way below Legendary’s desired $ figure, but after they tallied up the overseas amount it made, it actually didn’t do that bad. NOT GOOD, but definitely didn’t lose any money that’s for sure. Long live the King…And sorry…It’s not Kong!

Xenotaris #TeamMothra

May-26-2020 4:44 PM

Kong better not win a second time! I sincerely hope the Monsterverse continues because I want to see more of Monsterverse Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, and King Ghidorah.

KingSalomonMMIV

May-26-2020 6:08 PM

Xenotaris

Kong doesn't have to kill Godzilla to beat him. I'm not sure why so many people think that defeat = death.

 

"What’s so great about discovery? It’s a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world."

— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

hawk4117

May-27-2020 1:05 PM

I think the movie phrase “One will Fall” got interpreted as “One will Die! Lol  I think a true champion has to experience defeat at least once right? Rocky lost to Apollo before claiming the title in the re-match.  I personally just want to see a clean tough battle between the two. No one dies…no one is lamed.  The one who falls will be the one who got defeated.  That’s all. If MonsterVerse/Legendary does this right and this installment makes a decent chunk of money, then who knows what will come next.  Just keep the mighty Godzilla alive ok! We all know how Kong will die. He just chose the wrong girlfriend! lol

Xenotaris #TeamMothra

May-27-2020 2:17 PM

@KingSalomonMMIV

I never said anything related to godzilla's death, I said win.

hawk4117

May-27-2020 4:31 PM

Sorry but it would be stupid if the writers/producers killed off Godzilla in this battle. And if in the future there’s any other possible upcoming Kong battle type movies, Kong will not be killed off either. Its only when he goes to NY to chase after his woman who’s atop the Empire State Building, will Kong meet his demise. It’s Godzilla that we have to worry about.  Some other people (Not in this thread) misinterprets “One will Fall” as death.  I’ve heard this before off of other forum platforms and you tube comments.   

KingSalomonMMIV

May-27-2020 5:21 PM

Xenotaris, your wording made it sound as if the MonsterVerse won't continue if Godzilla loses, and his death would seem like the only possible reason for the universe not to continue (box office numbers aside). 

I'm personally rooting for Kong. However, if I were making the movie, I would have him die after defeating Godzilla. This could help to develop the story in ways no one would expect (Godzilla is defeated and Kong would be dead, so the Titans and flora/fauna would be left without any ruler). Godzilla would still be alive, and this could make for a new, personal journey that he will have to go through; he will have to try to help save the earth while maintaining no domain over the monsters, figuring out how he can prove himself worthy of being king again. This is all just a lot of speculation, but I think it could be really interesting to see if they continue the MonsterVerse. 

"What’s so great about discovery? It’s a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world."

— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

dk

May-27-2020 8:27 PM

KingSalomonMMIV Interesting. It begs the question- if both Godzilla and Kong indeed die (doubtful), is there another creature to carry on such as Mothra? I think that would be too much for fans, but there lots of creatures in the Monsterverse.

Monster_Zero 2112 #TeamGodzilla

May-27-2020 8:29 PM

I hope they do because I want to see more of Behemoth and Methuselah.

Xenotaris #TeamMothra

May-28-2020 3:25 AM

I'm just worried that Toho will not allow the monsterverse to continue beyond Godzilla vs Kong

JurassicKaiju14 #TeamGodzilla

May-28-2020 5:00 AM

Xenotaris With all that's gone down, I wouldn't be surprised i this was the last movie in the MV. And if I recall correctly, the original contract with Toho went up to this year, so unless something changes, this might be it. Might.

A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.

Xenotaris #TeamMothra

May-28-2020 8:03 AM

Hopefully Godzilla vs Kong is successful enough that the contract is renewed. Although I don't mind having to go to Toho Godzilla movies but some of my friends might not be interested in them.

KingSalomonMMIV

May-28-2020 8:22 AM

Tbh, I don't really care if this'll be the last movie in the MonsterVerse. I mean, so far it's been fun, but imo neither K:SI or KotM are up to par with G14, or several of the other Toho movies for that matter. I could see the MonsterVerse becoming too mainstream, which would be a shame considering G's Japanese roots. If this were the case, I'd rather it not continue.

"What’s so great about discovery? It’s a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world."

— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

hawk4117

May-28-2020 10:49 AM

Great opinions and comments throughout this thread.  No doubt the two top dogs in MonsterVerse are Kong and Godzilla. Godzilla having more history and battles, Kong having an Island to tend to.  The info on the internet regarding all plot leak type rumors are very interesting, as well as all the comments I have read.  I feel the OP on MosterVerse coming to an end after this installment is over is unfortunately a strong possibility.  Personally I hope not though.  If this movie does well at the box office where a big chunk of money was made, then maybe it could lead to a possible “rematch” or other battle type scenarios.  If there’s a descent storyline to lead the way, then MV may have another installment or two left in the oven.  There’s other Monsters that have notable notoriety such as Gigan, Biollante, Destoroyah, Hedorah, Megalon, Gabara, Megaguirus,  both Mecha’s and of course we can’t forget Gamera the flying Turtle! Lol  Now wouldn’t that be fun to watch!   So there are other candidates for a little bit more of MV if and only if this upcoming movie does well.  Now it’s been mentioned that G vs K will be extended yet another year!  Rumored to be in May of 2021 I think I read somewhere. Geeez!

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