Will "World of Godzilla" Connect To The MonsterVerse?

sonictiger

So, new information about the planned "World of Godzilla" universe is saying that it is a "a planned Japanese and American media franchise and shared universe that is slated to revolve around Godzilla and other Toho characters with the help of Warner Bros and Legendary Pictures."  So, with that in mind....if WB and Legendary are contributing to this new universe, will it connect to the events of the MonsterVerse or will the slate be wiped entirely clean? Maybe it would be fine to start fresh with a new slate of Japanese and American creators helming the next chapter of Toho's popular kaiju.  But there are loose ends that the MonsterVerse needs to cover that hasn't been yet.  What do you guys think?

Sound off in the comments and in the poll, and that's all for now!

sonictiger

I personally want a connection that's very loosely based so the stories can be more original in my opinion...

G. H. (Gman)

If there's a God, it won't.

Frankly, I'm skeptical about this supposed "World of Godzilla" happening to begin with. While Toho keeps things pretty close to the vest, the last word about this idea wasn't even an official announcement. It was merely Keiji Ota musing on ideas he called a, "potential strategy" (emphasis on "potential") all the way in 2018. A lot happens in three years.

I have no doubt a new chapter of the franchise is on the way, but I'm not convinced it's another Toho shared universe. (Which they've already done anyway.)

SasquaDash

It would be interesting to see the two crossover. It would be pretty cool to see different versions of Godzilla meeting each other.

G. H. (Gman)

"If there's a God, it won't."

Really?...

G. H. (Gman)

SasquaDash,
*checks notes*

Really.

SasquaDash

G. H. (Gman)

We get it. You don't like the MonsterVerse. At this point your insults towards the series are getting really repetitive, childish and, honestly, kind of pathetic...

G. H. (Gman)

SasquaDash,
Does that go for your comments about Singular Point as well or do we cherry pick? Weird how I can ignore those, but you can't seem to let go of these.

Recommendation: Stop being hyper sensitive to a set of dull films I haven't even bothered to comment on for weeks. Try it out. I believe in you.

sonictiger

Ok, firstly let's stop arguing.  But wouldn't you agree that maybe we should get a fresh start with a diverse team of avid Japanese and American creators working together to make something new?

SasquaDash

G. H. (Gman)

Well maybe I would... If you stop being an overly arrogant, controlling, elitist, narcissistic, condescending jerk that thinks the Godzilla franchise needs to only revolve around what he wants and constantly insults anyone with a different opinion. I honestly don't give a **** about what you think about the MonsterVerse (I've made that clear multiple times), my problem is that you're constantly treating others like **** for having a different opinions than yours. Everybody else may be fine with your attitude, but I'm not going to just sit here and let myself or others be insulted and bossed around by some grouch...

G. H. (Gman)

SasquaDash,
"I honestly don't give a **** about what you think about the MonsterVerse (I've made that clear multiple times)"

Then act like it. It seems the only person insulted here was you--For some reason.

sonictiger

And now you're making SasquaDash leave because of your ignorance.

G. H. (Gman)

sonictiger,
I didn't make anyone do anything. He left of his own accord. The only ignorance here displayed is the inability to let something go when someone makes a comment contrary to their own. You're welcome to join him.

sonictiger

"You're welcome to join him."

I really, really thought you were better than this.

sonictiger

Now, can we get back on the topic we were discussing before that exchange took place?

Djdndnejwnwn

Honestly I’m not going to comment on the chaos that happened. 

I don’t want to see Toho work with MV Godzilla, he’s too distinctly (now i dont mean this in a negative way) changed.

I mean the Godzilla 14 and KSI have a more realistic “seriousness” that GvK and KOTM lack. They all have stakes, but GvK and KOTM have a serious tonal change, lending itself to just monster fun. That’s not a bad thing, but it doesn’t fit with Toho’s latest endeavors. 

For example, GvK had a lot of jokes and was fairly lighthearted, Singular Point was draped in Hindu and Buddhist Philosophy.

Not that singular point didn’t have lighthearted moments it was just more serious to me.

Monsterzero9

intresting prospect, unable to comment

G. H. (Gman)

I would say the issue with Hollywood working with foreign studios and filmmakers for potential blockbusters is that, usually, they usurp those filmmakers in question for their own benefit. (And they get away with it since they usually put up the majority of the money.) So a joint venture doesn't interest me. It seems like it would just be Hollywood spinning its wheels again.

I'm more interested in what Toho will do from this point forward, but if Hollywood were to make another attempt at Godzilla, I'd rather a totally different studio try their hand. We've seen what Legendary is all about by now and it's less than exhilarating.

sonictiger

Maybe Universal could put a spin on it...

G. H. (Gman)

To be honest, my first choice would have always been Warner Brothers. But the way they treat their talent and the strangling creative control they force on some of these projects make them very unattractive these days. And it's clear they've had little positive effect on the Godzilla films at present.

I'm not sure who I'd like to see handle it. No matter what Godzilla will be channeled as "action-blockbuster" material, which didn't fit in Final Wars and continues to clash now. It really comes down to the talent, but the way studios look at material matters too.

Maybe Paramount, if it came down to a big studio. But, then again, I'm not particularly fond of the way they treated Transformers.

sonictiger

I think Michael Bay is mainly to blame for that issue, as Paramount let him do whatever he wanted and he turned Optimus Prime into a violence-craving maniac.  They turned a better direction with Bumblebee and I'm excited to see the direction they take with Rise of The Beasts.  They could certainly do Godzilla and Toho IP justice, but they'd need a team that cares about the source material and what made Godzilla and his universe endearing in the first place.

Also Paramount is a better fit anyways, since Universal already had their crack as they handled King Kong for 86 years and internationally distributed 1962's King Kong Vs. Godzilla.

Djdndnejwnwn

sonictiger

Honestly I think all the MV films have had teams that love the property, Why else would Dourghtey shove so many Easter eggs in?

Pitting MV against Marvel just didn’t seem like it kept with the themes of 14’

G. H. (Gman)

HinikunaGoji,
I think the comparison he was making was closer in response to how Transformers was treated than the Monsterverse. Either way he's right, but competent, imaginative filmmakers wouldn't hurt either.

sonictiger

Exactly, you need to have competent and imaginative filmmakers to make something work.  Also they proved that their human characters can have depth and substance with Bumblebee, so it could be best to have Paramount carry out the next iteration of an American Godzilla.

sonictiger

And Michael Bay did have a certain style, and he did want to make those movies.  I just think he wanted to do it his own way and had a very poor grasp of the source material.  And admittedly, at least two of his Transformers movies were good but like Godzilla I would like something that sticks to the source material.  And while Bumblebee didn't exactly do that, it was still good as it had a team of filmmakers who were competent and imaginative.  I think WB has been competent for the most part, but they haven't been imaginative.

Djdndnejwnwn

G. H. (Gman)

Ive enjoyed his pursuits outside Godzilla. Krampus and Trick r Treat are enjoyable for me. 

He likes to do movies about dysfunctional families though. Which I think he was just retreading in KOTM

sonictiger

Well, the thing is I just want something different from a talented team of creators.  American and Japanese to be specific.  And Paramount may be the next stage since WB, Sony, and Universal have all had their cracks at the genre.  And none of them have exactly succeeded (with the MonsterVerse only being a partial success in my eyes). 

G. H. (Gman)

HinikunaGoji,
Trick r Treat is Dougherty's best film and isn't close. He showed a lot of promise with that film. Krampus, not so much. It's a worthwhile technical achievement though. I'll give it that much.

sonictiger

Godzilla: King of The Monsters has a lot of redeeming elements, but honestly I assume Dougherty's other projects are better.  KOTM is honestly just FINE, but I hope a potential Godzilla 3 (not GVK) could bring in a talented group of filmmakers.  I wouldn't be opposed to see a movie directed by Guillermo Del Toro if I were to choose...

Djdndnejwnwn

G. H. (Gman)

I enjoyed Krampus, it wasn’t badly written, and it was just an ok movie.

Interesting all the MV directors so far are horror directors. I’d like to keep that tradition.

sonictiger

And Del Toro has made horror too...

Djdndnejwnwn

sonictiger

Yes he did, he made Pans Labrynth, Antlers, Scary stories to tell in the dark, Mama, Don’t be afraid of the dark, and others