Godzilla vs. Kong beat The Snyder Cut AND Wonder Woman 1984 viewership on HBO Max!

Xenotaris

Sucks to be a super hero right now, also first comment.
Go Go GO Godzilla!

sonictiger

Snyder Cut is better than GVK though.

But WW84 was borderline trash

Djdndnejwnwn

@Sonic

Thats where I disagree.

GvK was better than Sydney cut. Many shots in the Sydner cut felt longer than needed extending two seconds longer. While GVK has less character arcs, i think it’s still better.

sonictiger

Snyder Cut has character development.

GVK does not.

Djdndnejwnwn

GVK has incomplete Character Development, not none at all.

sonictiger

incomplete though.

Djdndnejwnwn

Yes but for character Development isn’t the only thing that makes a good movie. Sydner Cut just doesn’t have as many positives as GVK for me

Xenotaris

Hopefully they revive Ren Serizawa in the next movie or at least have a novel or prequel movie or a game to flesh his character out

BigGMonsterMan

@Xenotaris

Yes, Ren was kind of lost in the movie.  I had to explain to my spouse who he was supposed to be.

That said, the Julian Dennison character added nothing to the story.

Demian Bichir (Walter Simmons) did a great Ricardo Montalban impression.  He should have been cast as Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness.

G. H. (Gman)

Biggmonsterman666,
"He should have been cast as Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness."

Holy God... That's brilliant...

KoldWarKid62

I think both he and Benicio Del Toro may have been considered for/offered the role, but both declined. Khan will always/only be Ricardo though.

Super Godzilla

Once again they delivered what most people wanted, mind numbing monster brawling. Humans characters only point was to transition to where they would fight next. As well as giving us plenty of amazing shots in the movie. CGI was outstanding.

YeOldFossil

It gave the fans what they wanted. Could have done better on the story, but how do you make a giant Gorilla and glowing lizard make sense? Even Toho gave up and just went for fun.

G. H. (Gman)

YeOldFossil,
In a sense, yes. Honda knew the original King Kong vs. Godzilla was only being made because of it's marquee value. He knew the idea was stupid, so he decided to satirize its commercialism through the "prism of television marketing". (Which was a hot topic in Japan at the time.) The characters reflected both the greed and absurdity through a movie that was intentionally comedic. 

King Kong vs. Godzilla was a smart movie--In fact it's so smart it goes over a lot of people's heads today. Godzilla vs. Kong doesn't have anything meaningful to say like that. It's just in for the dumb fun. At least it knows it's dumb fun though.

Djdndnejwnwn

That’s how it goes

sonictiger

King Kong vs Godzilla was dumber than GVK mark my words.

But GVK was more fun.

sonictiger

And Zack Snyder's Justice League was an amazing movie.

Djdndnejwnwn

@Sonic

I disagree on all points

sonictiger

Why

Djdndnejwnwn

I don’t like Sydner Cut that much

G. H. (Gman)

sonictiger,
That comment comparing the two movies pretty much proves my above point.

King Kong vs. Godzilla is so smart it just goes over people's heads. Godzilla vs. Kong is just dumb and not trying to be anything more. Which is fine, at least it knew what it was doing.

HinikunaGoji,
I'm with you. The Snyder Cut was a self-indulgent, boring slog.

Xenotaris

I prefer the Snyder Cut primarily on one factor.... I hate Joss Weadon

G. H. (Gman)

Xenotaris,
I mean, directors aside, yeah, the Snyder Cut is better. But it's really just a better bad movie than the former bad movie.

Xenotaris

No, I'm serious. Joss Weadon is a horrible pile of fecal matter 

Gman1954

I’m happy that the movie is getting bigger and bigger 

MechaniKong1223

Snyder cut is a better version of the previous justice league but imo it was overhyped

sonictiger

Gman,

why is the Snyder Cut a "self indulgent, boring slog"?

Xenotaris

I never got why critics use those words, it just seems to me that critics like using big hate words for movies they don't like but what do I know I'm not a professional movie critic I'm just a fan

sonictiger

IKR

G. H. (Gman)

sonictiger,
I pretty much explained it above. Snyder had no accountability. He indulged in a conscious decision to put all of the scenes in a 4 hour action picture with a borderline similar story to The Avengers and had no care in the world over the fact that it stifled the pace of the film and several scenes were unnecessary.

For example, why did Aquaman need two introductions? We got the picture with one just fine. Why was it necessary to introduce Barry's powers twice? His Iris rescue made no sense--Now she knows who he is. His introduction with Bruce would've been perfectly adequate. And then there's the end epilogue was overtly long, pretentious and completely unnecessary. I didn't appreciate sitting through an extra 30 minute commercial to a movie we're not going to get.

Snyder didn't care if he was doubling up on story beats he didn't need. He was just throwing paint at the wall. Not to mention a whoppingly stupid 22 minutes and 7 seconds of the movie was in slow motion. Which is unnecessary anyway. The more you slow down action sequences, the less dramatic the effect is. But if slow motion is the reason your movie too long, that's a big problem.

Also why should the audience be concerned about Darkseid? It's never a good idea to set up your Thanos-level villain with a defeat by a guy who Wonder Woman beat her solo film. Just send her to finish him.

G. H. (Gman)

Xenotaris,
Because writers know what a dictionary is.

Xenotaris

G. H. (Gman) 
No need to be a condescending misfeasor

Xenotaris

I don't mean that in a mean way, just can you be a little nicer?

G. H. (Gman)

Xenotaris,
I am being nice. You should see mean.

sonictiger

Gman, I see your opinion.

But the character development was excellent, the visual effects were mostly top-notch (admittedly, not as good as GVK), and the score was amazing.  Plus, the story was fleshed out and it didn't feel at all like the piece of trash we got in 2017.

G. H. (Gman)

Too fleshed out... I also didn't like the score at all.

Djdndnejwnwn

@Sonic

what is not liked is that it’s completely unnecessary. The cuts are sloppier and it adds much that didn’t need to be added in the first place.

Djdndnejwnwn

siratoneX@

I don’t think Gman is very mean. He’s comes off as is because he just words things plainly. Not being rude but just stating something in a phrase as “This is the way it is.” If that makes sense. He also is slightly Sarcastic. 

I just realized for my name being SarcasticGoji, I’m not very sarcastic on this website

Xenotaris

A lot of people say I'm sarcasm blind, I guess this is one of them moments. I can also be very sensitive at times 

Djdndnejwnwn

Remember we’re talk online, not in person so attaching the wrong emotions can be very easy and is done often unintentionally 

sonictiger

Too fleshed out???? Too fleshed out?????

I would cut 20 minutes from ZSJL but it was fleshed out as it needed to be.

G. H. (Gman)

Eh, there might be a good movie in the Snyder Cut somewhere. But it could definitely lose about an hour and a half to get there.