junkerde
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 10:06 PM
¨since then, the giant creature has been living in the deep ocean - until a threat to his survival from an ancient foe forces him to reappear.¨
*text added by **AL**
junkerde
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 10:08 PMthe last sentence, you can infer what MUTO's relationship to Godzilla is
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonMar-06-2014 10:12 PMHoly crap. O_o
Well... there's your back story. Pretty much.
Sounds an awful lot like the leaked script, doesn't it? I thought the "ancient radioactive monster" theory disproved that script, but it looks like that't the origin of Godzilla for the movie!
Just anther reason to own the Jakks Pacific figure!
(and what an appropriate 100th post for me!)
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Akagi
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 10:12 PMReally looking like that script is real.
Also, I guess I wasn't too nutty with my precambrian theory, but its looking like Godzilla's species is even older than precambrian.
junkerde
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 10:13 PMLOL I think the script was proven real once the 2nd trailer came out
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonMar-06-2014 10:13 PMAlso... the box says "possibly" the last of his species... more fuel for the "two Godzilla's" fire?
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Akagi
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 10:24 PM@Danzilla93
Yeah... sadly.
Gojira2K
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 10:35 PMWhere are all these toys coming from!?!
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Danzilla93
MemberBaragonMar-06-2014 10:40 PMGojira2k:
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW!!!!!!!! The image in the other thread looks like it was taken in a store! ARE STORES GETTING THESE THINGS ALREADY?!?!?!?! And if so, what am I doing here in front of my computer with Godzilla money burning a hole in my pocket?!?! :)
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True American Godzilla
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 10:51 PMThis is cool info, excellent find! I'm happy to hear that the American Godzilla might not be the only one of its kind. Leaves room for all kinds of possibilities for future movies.
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GuateGojira
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 11:07 PMTo be sincere, I found this a little disapointing, because I didn't liked the idea that some giant bugs "hunted" the Godzilla species to put they eggs on it and see it die slowly, just like some giant wasps do to species of giant spiders (tarantulas?).
That is like to say that a tiger or lion is directly and particularly killed by a smaller foe. :o(
Well, that is what the suposed "leaked" script said. I realy hope this is NOT true.
junkerde
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 11:14 PMIs it the plot point that you dont like, the technical stuff, or you just dont like the idea of insects hurting our favorite monster Godzilla?
Because honestly, imo, that isn't a good reason. Not bashing you or anything.
Sim
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 11:18 PM"Really looking like that script is real.
Also, I guess I wasn't too nutty with my precambrian theory, but its looking like Godzilla's species is even older than precambrian."
That's not possible: The Precambrian dates from the formation of the Earth 4.6 billion years ago to 540 million years ago. Only simple animals similar to sponges, jellyfish and worms had evolved prior to the end of the Precambrian. Godzilla has gills, so he is either a reptile that secondarily evolved gills after they were lost in his reptilian acestors, or he is a highly derived reptilomorph amphibian of some sort. Zoologically speaking, he would be placed in an entirely serperate class apart from amniotes (reptiles and mammals) and his connective tissues would be extremely different (and much stronger) than anything found in real animals. His bones would have to be as strong as some of the strongest metals on Earth, and his connective tissues would need to consist of polymers 100s of times stronger than regular proteins. Interesingly, if he were a real creature, the adaptations that allow his species to support their weight would render him nearly industructible. The fact that he lives off ionizing radiation also makes him a radiotroph; basically an organism that produces organic compounds from CO2 and some pigment that reacts with ionizing radation such as gamma rays.
Regarding the Mutos, all I can say is virtually every organism has parasites of some kind, so why should Godzilla not have natural enemies?
GODZILLA HIMSELF
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 11:18 PMi as well, hate the idea that godzilla is the hunted, or that he is actually "forced" to do something, hes the freaking king for crying out loud!while i dont mind the idea of a species of godzillas, i kind of hope that there will be something that sets Gojira apart from the rest, something that we dont completely understand which makes him far more deadly
king of the monsters
Sim
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 11:24 PMGodzilla did have a "natural" enemy in the second movie, he was an ankylosaur called Anguirus. How is this significantly different?
Regarding there being more than one Godzilla, again, that was suggested at the end of the 1st film and confirmed with Godzilla Raids Again. Sounds to me like the director is sticking very close to the original films.
As far as what sets him apart... he did have nukes dropped on him, and his species feeds on radiation.
GODZILLA HIMSELF
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 11:32 PManguirus was a natural enemy, but not a significant threat
king of the monsters
junkerde
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 11:46 PMthey literally were fighting the whole movie, idk how that isn't a significant threat. if he wasn't significant godzilla would've been able to off him early in the film. Also Being shot in the face with atomic breathe and being able to withstand that, im sorry but that IS a significant threat, of course for that film.
GODZILLA HIMSELF
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-06-2014 11:52 PMwell, you have a point, pherhaps the lack of good visual effects decived me in that film, it didnt look like either were hurt at all until godzilla suddenly finished him off with the breath.
all in all, i guess i could see the muto have a role like anguirus in G raids again.
king of the monsters
GuateGojira
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-07-2014 1:50 AMJunkerde: What I don't like is the idea that Godzilla (the King) is "hunted" by another species.
I mean, he is the main predator, is like the tiger or lion, and although there are some cases (in real life) of dholes and lycaons (the wild dogs of Asia and Africa, respectively) hunting tigers and lions, these are exceptional cases.
The analogy with Anguirus is diferent, because they are "natural enemies", but still, Godzilla was the predator of the two. On the other hand, this new movie (based in the "not yet corroborated" plot), Godzilla will be the prey! >:(
I really hope that this is not the case. We most wait until May for that.
GuateGojira
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-07-2014 2:00 AMHey, what IF the Muto is actually just a parasite that eat the energy/blood of Godzilla? Then it will not be a predator per se.
But latter, the human activity transformed this previous parasite in to a REAL predator that not only wants to eat Godzilla but also all the other living things in the Planet???
This hypotesis fits more or less well with the possible plot, don't you think?
junkerde
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-07-2014 2:18 AMGuategojira, i dont find that to be a reason to hate it, or the movie. It's a plot point that is important to the story they are telling, we need a real threat to Godzilla, and them showing that Godzilla could kill it makes him that much more powerful.
Sim
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-07-2014 8:10 AMLeaked script aside (keep in mind it may not have been the final draft) people who saw the 20 min of footage (IGN specifically) said that Godzilla was actively persuing the Muto accross the Pacific and he flat out crushes one in Hawaii. Think Triceratops vs. T. rex or hyenas vs. lions. The fact that they can kill each other doesn't mean one is a hapless sheep and the other is a wolf!
What I want to know is what the heck the Mutos actually are. Godzilla is clearly some kind of tetrapod, but the Mutos don't look like any animal phyla on Earth; they look like aliens. I think there is a good chance that they are analogous to the kaiju from specific Rim... Oh wait! The kaiju tried to invade the Earth during the Triassic and were stopped by something... and Gareth has been in talks with Del Torro off and on.. are you kidding me? Does this look like what I think it does?
gtbetta35
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-07-2014 8:25 AMTo be completely honest, The vocabulary in the writing is not 3+ appropriate. "Kill" "Atomic" "Evolved" "Pacific Ocean" "1954" etc. etc. The list goes on. That's not marketing of a professional company trying to sell to kids. I've never seen a paragraph explaining a movie in such detail behind a 3+ kids toy. Hm.
GuateGojira
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-07-2014 1:50 PMJunkerde: I have NEVER said that I “hated” anything of the movie or the monsters itself. Don’t put word in my mouth, ok?
I only said that I don’t liked the “idea” of Godzilla species been eat by other species, that all!
Did you read my last post? I stated a possible hypothesis about the significance of the Mutos and how it could be a real danger for Godzilla and all the living things of this planet. However, I also said that we will need to wait until May to see the true.
GODZILLA HIMSELF
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-07-2014 3:33 PM@SIM
woa, this makes a pacific rim crossover, that much more feasable
course, it srill probably wont happen
king of the monsters