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Where does it say that Godzilla can't be killed by a nuclear bomb?

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BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 8:54 AM
I don't remember a single movie that showed Godzilla surviving a nuclear strike. The closest thing in a movie to Godzilla being nuked was in the '84 film where he was ALMOST nuked, but instead, the Americans nuked that nuke creating just the thing to revive Godzilla from his "death".
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yokoshai

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 9:05 AM
I think you sorta answered your question....somewhat...maybe Godzilla would be heavily damaged but after sometime come back even more powerful from the radiation

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 9:09 AM
Yeah, but it was more of an EMP after the nuke was nuked. I mean, that's what nukes do to other nukes. xD So really, Godzilla was revived by the Electromagnetic Pulse, not radiation. But I guess that also explains why he wasn't much more powerful after being revived.

yokoshai

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 9:11 AM
OH well....we may never know, but maybe they might try nuking him again in the new movie. What ya think?

Gimm-e

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 10:34 AM
According to the movie King Kong vs Godzilla they can kill him with an a-bomb, but it would cause more damage than the monster itself. Makes sense...
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Durp004

MemberBaragonOct-11-2013 10:34 AM
I don't think it's that it won't kill him it's just like what they said in King Kong vs Godzilla that the weapon would do as much damage as the monsters anyway. Granted they could always nuke him when he's in a solitary area, but hey what's a movie without plot convenience?

malachai20101

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 12:39 PM
The main subsistance source for Godzilla, and it has been said so throughout several movies, is nuclear radiation. I believe that while Godzilla may be initially destroyed, his regenerative properties would allow him to return stronger than ever because of the high amounts of radiation. In godzilla vs destroyah, the radiation levels of godzilla's meltdown dwarfed that of a nuclear bomb. that radiation revived a near dead godzilla jr, and made him a full fledged godzilla. example much?

InstinctiveGigan

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 3:47 PM
Am I the only one that remember Final Wars? Where Godzilla survived a meteorite-like impact from Monster X which caused a huge ass explosion, leaving Godzilla in a massive crater unharmed. No I don't think neither the impact nor the heat would kill Godzilla (maybe harm him), the only thing that would really kill him is the amount of radiation he absorbed causing him to meltdown like in Godzilla vs Destroyah. I think the whole concept of defeating Godzilla with any man-made weapon we have nowadays is seriously stupid. Like, yeah we have over 50 years worth of Godzilla movies of him fighting monsters and us trying different methods to kill the basterd (like an Oxygen Destroyer or a friggin Black Hole in a box), but all this time if we lead him into a remote area and sent a nuke, we'd kill him. As for his meltdown I never liked the idea of Meltdown Godzilla. The dude can use his nuclear abilities for atomic breath and nuclear pulses but he can't get rid of excess radiation that's unheatlhy for him? Nah, don't buy it. I'm not saying he's unkillable but defeating him with the very thing that created him? That's like trying to kill Superman by throwing him into the sun, or giving Spider-man another radioactive spider bite. It doesn't sound the least bit credible.

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 4:21 PM
Final Wars is the '98 film of the TOHO franchise. It's not a real Godzilla movie in my opinion. xD It doesn't deserve to be among the real Godzilla movies like Son of Godzilla or Godzilla's Revenge. xD But still, I'm not saying that it'd be credible, but it also hasn't been explicitly stated that nukes don't do a damn thing, and I just hear people go on and on about how nukes wouldn't do a thing, so I'm left here wondering what movie said that Godzilla was immune to nukes. The meteor thing was utter crap. Final Wars was Godzilla on an overpowered rampage with ten second, one sided, battles in which half a blast of his breath murdered everything. I mean, this is a dumb thing for me to say, since it's Godzilla, but realistically, a nuclear bomb would absolutely get rid of Godzilla. The heat alone would incinerate every bit of his DNA, cells, everything. The only thing left would be a skeleton with no DNA and that's if he's a distance away from the drop site. But really, this was just a question asking people if there was a movie where it was sort of proven that a nuke wouldn't take care of Godzilla. Like maybe a last resort sort of thing in the showa series, because the EMP incident doesn't count as being nuked, or if I missed something in the Millennium series. Final Wars didn't have a nuke in it, and if it did, they didn't nuke Godzilla.

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 4:23 PM
And let's be honest, we'd try nuking the bastard before trying to throw meteors and black holes at him.

Samzilla 14

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 6:04 PM
"I mean, this is a dumb thing for me to say, since it's Godzilla, but realistically, a nuclear bomb would absolutely get rid of Godzilla. The heat alone would incinerate every bit of his DNA, cells, everything. The only thing left would be a skeleton with no DNA and that's if he's a distance away from the drop site." Nah sorry, don't buy that. Saying a nuclear bomb would completely vaporize Godzilla totally negates the fact that he is completely indestructable to conventional weaponry. Dropping an a-bomb on the beast would at best just burn his skin if only taken by the blast or destroy a portion of it by direct hit revealing some skeleton which would heal back anyway with regenerator G-1. And since it was never actually attempted in King Kong vs Godzilla i think we can assume that the claim that nuclear weapons could indeed kill Godzilla is pretty speculative. And for the sake of refference, if Godzilla can swim in a volcano then he most certainly can withstand a nuclear blast(whether you concider Godzilla vs Biolantte an actual G film or not).

InstinctiveGigan

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 6:20 PM
@BCrockett94 Did you seriously use "realistically" and "Godzilla" in the same sentence? The fact we're even talking about whether a nuke would kill him or not shows how fantastical this guy is. But it's just a stupid concept, I'm aware of how powerful a nuke is but if it's sincerely true that Godzilla can be killed so easily with the very thing that created him then why the hell haven't we used it already? Talk about ruining every damn movie he's in. They made the Oxygen Destroyer for a reason, that's all I'm saying. There's nothing to prove Godzilla CAN survive a nuke, but there's nothing that says he can't. That's the beauty of fiction. But the proof is in the pudding. Saying Final Wars isn't a legit movie to use feats from is YOUR opinion, you can't just say "oh no, that doesn't count cuz I say it's BS". It's a fact, Godzilla survived a huge massive meteorite impact and explosion without a scratch. The very fact that Godzilla is fictional means we can make up whatever kind of rules we want about him. All it takes is one Toho movie about Godzilla to say "Godzilla would survive a nuke" for this conversation to not even exist.

Manthony Higgs

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 7:03 PM
Nuking Godzilla is like trying to kill superman by throwing him into the sun, or drowning Mario in a sea of mushrooms. You might slow him down for a bit but in the end you're only making things worse for yourself.

Samzilla 14

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 7:03 PM
Indeed, well said @InstinctiveGigan. You can't use your opinion to dictate fictional lore. The only film that would work with in this case is G98 for all too obvious reasons.

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 8:40 PM
xD I did say it was a dumb thing to say. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm not. And that's sort of kinda what I was more or less trying to say. IM SORRY! I HAVENT SLEPT IN A FEW DAYS! I'M NOT THINKING STRAIGHT. Besides, I was just joking with the Final Wars not being a legit Godzilla movie. I was hoping someone would catch that with the mentions of Son of Godzilla and Godzilla's Revenge. But I guess everyone's actually focused on the nuke thing, which is good, but humor is nice too. Even if I don't like Final Wars, I still consider it a real Godzilla film. And you bring up the point I'm trying to make as well, they never even attempted to kill Godzilla with a nuke, and it sort of bugs me when people say he's immune from it. The way that they have it set up is that we won't know until Toho decides to nuke him. As such, I'm still hopeful. Again, I'm not even trying to say that you're wrong, but I'm also not going to say you're right. I can't for certain say either, despite my past arguments I made before passing out for several, much needed, hours. I find myself agreeing with you, Instinctive Gigan. I would, again, like to see a movie where Godzilla is actually nuked, so I can either stop bitching in my head whenever I see comments like "omg godzilla is invincible 'gainst nukes, hur durr", or I can stop bitching in my head and say, "This guy knows what he's talking about." I don't know how many times I just contradicted myself in the last few comments. As such, I'll just say that, Instinctive Gigan makes a damn good argument... especially the "it'd take one Toho film... and we wouldn't even be having this conversation." I'd like to point out, that I don't care if Godzilla can or cannot be killed via Nuclear strike, but I'd like to see the evidence for it, even if it isn't "realistic" evidence. lmao, xD I could have sworn I put a "Now, this is a dumb thing to say, but... realistically.." then something about Godzilla. Eh, whatever. I'm done with this thread. I've made myself look more stupid, and I acknowledge that. *Edit Apparently, I did not mention Son of Godzilla and Godzilla's Revenge. I apologize.

InstinctiveGigan

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 9:32 PM
No need to apologize, threads are for discussion. One of the many negatives of comment talking is the lack of emotion, so this all sounds argumenative to me when really it's usually the exact opposite. I personally don't believe a nuke would harm Godzilla otherwise they would've done it by now but your opinion makes sense as well. And don't worry man, we're ALL idiots. We're all arguing on a website about a 400 ft tall fire breathing dinosaur who fights 3 headed, armless alien dragons and giant moths. Talking about Godzilla makes everyone sound stupid. XD

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 9:57 PM
Now that you put it that way... You're right. Anyone talking about a giant radioactive dinosaur usually comes off as bat shit crazy. lol

Ringozilla

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-24-2013 6:47 AM
@ INSTINCTIVEGIGAN " The dude can use his nuclear abilities for atomic breath and nuclear pulses but he can't get rid of excess radiation that's unheatlhy for him? Nah, don't buy it. I'm not saying he's unkillable but defeating him with the very thing that created him? That's like trying to kill Superman by throwing him into the sun," All star superman had that plot he toke in to much rad from the sun and stuff he didn't die but evolved or something. My guess is it would depend on the power of the nuke and the version of Godzilla and his location to the blast. But most likely he would get hurt to seriously hurt but he would heal and come back stronger.

Gojira 2014

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-24-2013 7:15 AM
Dude godzilla is a fucking nuclear reactor the only thing that stands a chance against him is either another monster or the oxyagen destroyer.
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first knight to the knig

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-24-2013 12:58 PM
correct me if I am wrong but in Godzilla vs ghidorah thay sent a atomic submarine to try and rebirth G but he had all redy been born and he attacked the sub detonating the nuks on board the resulting radiation resulted in him being strong enough to kill king ghidorah dos that count as getting nuked? if not pleas correct me

micking

MemberMothra LarvaeNov-03-2013 12:58 AM
Everyone has always seemed to ignore Godzilla's metaphysical side even though it has been hinted at throughout his entire history! GODZILLA is a GHOST! A poltergeist in fact. A primal spirit that has existed on the Earth since prehistoric times . It's mind is that of a dinosaur that is eternally going through the motions of being a dinosaur. Like the ghost of a soldier who constantly repeats his march across the field of battle upon which he had died. Godzilla's spirit, not knowing that he is already physically dead, believes he is still alive. An Earthbound Spirit trapped within his corporeal form in a flash of Thermonuclear fire! Dinosaurs were the absolute peak of evolutionary life forms on Earth. Their diversity filled every imaginable ecological nitch until, by whatever means, meteoric or otherwise, doomed them to extinction . When a spirit leaves the body, it is usually allowed to "step into the light" to merge with its spiritual source.(Heaven or God) The dinosaurs that were killed by the extinction event, died so quickly that they were deprived of their spiritual transition. Their spirits were thrust into a dinosaurian PURGATORY where the last living memory they had was a flash of bright light and a huge wave of heat, radiation and pain! The Godzillasaurus, one of the last remaining living true dinosaurs, was deprived of its "White Light Spiritual Transition Event." At the time of its death by the intervention of a thermonuclear event! Another event resulting in bright light, searing heat, radiation and pain. Godzillasaur's transition was split asunder and all the SPIRITUAL ENERGY of the Dinosaur PURGATORY poured out of the source and into the body of the dinosaur. Something along the lines of spiritual demonic possesion! It literaly became the living spirit of ALL the dinosaurs that had died from that explosive extinction event! It's actions may even be influenced by possesion of HUMAN spirits that died in a similar instant and horrible manner. (Nagasaki and Hiroshima!) Perhaps explaining its affinity for Japan. The early speculation that it was a peculiar mix of bipedal carnasaur and armored stegosaur may have been close to right. It is an amalgam of ALL those dinosaurs and more! Its Bodyform is a mixed-up concensus of what all dinosaurs aspired to become. Bigger! Stronger! Impervious to all harm! Because the last, living memory of all those spirits was of light, heat, radiation and pain, they all chose a Bodyform that could not only be immune to these things, but be able to inflict them upon others, in self defense. Thus came into being the Physical form that we refer to as the Classic ORIGINAL Godzilla ! His body is held together, telekineticly, by the will and self-image of those spirits. That is why his body does not conform to, or have the weaknesses of biological entities. He is held together by his thoughts. He insists upon believing He is still alive. This is why he cannot DIE, even by a NUKE! Spirits are eternal. They must find peace in order to move on to an afterlife. The Meltdown Godzilla passed this spirit into the little one before it exploded. Instantly tranforming it into an adult form.

Linkzilla

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-19-2014 11:39 AM

In the original Godzilla, it is all but directly stated that he was at the center of a thermonuclear explosion and survived, and that nothing that is not stronger than an H-bomb can harm him (when Dr. Yamane said Godzilla was baptized in the fire of the H-bomb. What could kill it now?). If that's not good enough, watch this documentary at 3:20. Akira Ifukube says (referring to WWII) "In the end the Japanese had fought with all their spirit, but it was modern technology [the atomic bomb] that defeated them.", and then "Godzilla is undefeated by modern technology.", and finally, if even that is not stating it directly enough, "He is stronger than the weapons that brought Japan to it's knees."

I know stating any of this  may seem unnecessary now that the G2014 trailer has shown him surviving being nuked, but I just wanted put this out there in case a certain someone who used to write many multi-page rants on this site (you know who I'm talking about) tried to argue, "Well classic Godzilla still would totes be killed by nukes."

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