True American Godzilla
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-07-2014 8:03 PMThe 2014 Godzilla was bombed during the 1954 nuclear 'testing', which was the Castle Bravo bomb... a 15 megaton bomb. However, that bomb wasn't the most powerful in history. In 1961 the Soviet Union made Tsar Bomba, a 50 MEGATON NUCLEAR BOMB!
So, if the American Godzilla's hide could withstand a 15 megaton bomb, then what would happen (realistically) if he were struck with a 50 megaton nuclear explosion?
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MemberBaragonJul-07-2014 8:29 PMAs I've said before according to the movie Godzilla's only withstood kilotons, and judging by the fact afterwards he went dormant for almost 70 years possibly to heal from those wounds, makes me doubt he'd withstand much more, much less the tzar bomb
Linkzilla
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-07-2014 8:32 PMWhether it was the 2014 version or not, no nuke can defeat Godzilla! Seriously, if you think otherwise, rewatch the 1954 film, and pay attention this time!
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MemberAnguirusJul-07-2014 9:21 PM@DURPOO4
1. He withstood megatons
2. He went back dormant because the Shinomura was killed in the blast, he therefore had no reason to keep coming up
3. If he can withstand being hit point blank by the largest meteor to ever hit Earth, the Permian, he sure as hell can withstand a 50 Megaton bomb.
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Durp004
MemberBaragonJul-07-2014 10:45 PMThe movie specifically refers to the bombs power in kilotons. Whatever happened in the awakening book doesn't matter as it was never talked about or mentioned in the movie. No other monster was talked about is says they bombed him and he disappeared, and it never says he withstood point blank the meteor that collided with the earth. Whatever the book says is fine in it's own but it's clear watching the movie that it doesn't follow that.
InstinctiveGigan
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-07-2014 11:35 PMThe nuke that was bombed on Godzilla was the Castle Bravo nuke. The opening went into great detail to show it was, (location, date, etc.) they even used actual footage from the actual nuclear explosion of the Bravo nuke. It's the Castle Bravo nuke, which is 15 megatons (it even looks like a 15 megaton bomb).
With that in mind, it is very possible he could survive the Tsar Bomba. It's over 3 times the power so MAYBE, it can hurt him, but again, it's implied the Bravo nuke didn't do much. What I'm thinking is in future films, they'll have the Tsar Bomba be the attempts to kill another, more powerful monster (Ghidorah, for example, maybe even Godzilla) but in my personal opinion, no, it wouldn't kill Godzilla.
The Weaver
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-08-2014 12:10 AMINSTINCTIVEGIGAN
Incorrect actually, the atomic blast that was detonated at the prologue was not Castle Bravo. It is unclear what it actually is, but 15 megaton blasts is far FAR more powerful. Just take a look.
Megaton blasts darkens the entire sky and the explosion is colored in very deep red. The bomb in the movie were kilotons at best. Even the initial footage when the bomb detonated is from Crossroad Baker, and that was only 25 kilotons.
The Weaver
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-08-2014 12:13 AMIf anyone's curious to learn more this video delves more in-depth on the actual Castle Bravo testing.
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MemberBaragonJul-08-2014 12:25 AMInstinctivegigan
You seem to be confusing speculation with facts. As I said the movie never refers to the bombs used, and says, that's right outright says the words kilotons. That's really all there is to say, as much as you want it to be megatons and think it's castle bravo, the facts are it's a kiloton nuke, so rather than go with the idea that you're right and everyone including the movie is wrong just give up on that argument that you believe it's megatons. I've never seen someone call out movie dialogue and claim they're right despite the movie saying otherwise. This isn't a historical documentary movie it's fiction everything that happens in the real world and it don't coincide
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MemberMothra LarvaeJul-08-2014 1:03 AMHi, haven't been on for a while, I see not much has changed.
To the question- Yes, I think he could survive a 50 megaton nuke, he would be a bit sore afterwards but still aive and kicking.I agree with INSTINCTIVEGIGAN,I believe the nuke used to "destroy" Godzilla in 1954 was the Castle Bravo nuke.
InstinctiveGigan
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-08-2014 1:05 AMYeah I doubt we're ever gonna come to an agreement, the movie gives plenty of evidence it's the Castle Braco nuke and also to the contrary, but because someone made a flaw in storytelling the movie just makes no sense with nukes. According to them, despite linking Godzilla to real events like the tests in the Pacific (most of which are in megatons) they still say it's only kilotons, but when they do decide to use a megaton nuke a boat can get it to a safe distance in 7 minutes. The movie is too flawed in that department to be sure about anything, let's just agree on that.
TheGMan123
MemberTitanosaurusJul-08-2014 4:03 AMYeah, see, Awakening was developed alongside the movie, so what works in-canon works, and what doesn't doesn't. Like the PR comics. Sometimes, things are contradicted. However, since the question of Godzilla surviving the Permian meteor isn't being opposed, and given how powerful that was, I'd say Godzilla could survive a fair bit of punishment from a Tzar. That, and its radioactive content would ensure Godzilla has a top-off anyways.
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MemberGiganJul-08-2014 4:56 AMIt would probably critically wound him. He'd have to go dormant for maybe even a century.
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MemberAnguirusJul-08-2014 7:18 AM@SCI-FI KING25
Like I said, he went dormant because the Shinomura was killed in the blast, it didnt scratch him like THEGMAN123 said, you basically feeding him what he needs to survive so this entire argument is
INVALID!!!!!!!!!!!
More proof Godzilla Awakening is canon: Why did Godzilla come to the surface if tye Shibonura wssnt there and Godzilla Awakening isnt canon?????
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!
Akio123
MemberMothra LarvaeJul-08-2014 12:45 PMIf Godzilla withstood the meteor that ELIMINATED pretty much all of the basic life forms on earth, survived for millions of years, and was in great condition after being nuked, how could this kill him? I mean, between the meteor and the nuke, he showed little to almost no damage. Hell, he was even left un-scarred by the Mutos. I'm sure the bomb would hurt him, enough to cause serious damage maybe...But then again, maybe not. All in all I don't think it would kill him. But this only assumption. the truth is, NONE of us can state whether it would kill him or not because we can never say how durable this Godzilla actually is. Its all just opinion. So all of the direct attacking in the comments above me is a little silly.
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MemberMothra LarvaeJul-08-2014 4:52 PMGodzilla will survive
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MemberMothra LarvaeJul-08-2014 5:31 PMYeah, the people saying that GZ was attacked with Castle Bravo or any other megaton nukes in the film canon are wrong, and, given how much the prequel comic contradicts the film, it's quite probable that the meteor thing is non-canon as well, but anyone that thinks that any human weapon could hurt the King of the Monsters should learn what a "force of nature" is.
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MemberMothra LarvaeJul-09-2014 12:14 PMOh yea also the truth is it would make godzilla even strongerstronger
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