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Who wants Zilla for DLC? Or the next game? Or any new game? Anything?

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ZillaJrKaijuKing

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPJun-25-2015 3:16 PM

If the upcoming Godzilla game (Godzilla The GameGodzilla Vs., whatever you want to call it) has DLC characters, who else would want to see Zilla and his beautiful design in those glorious HD graphics?  I've also read that there could be a sequel to the game, so if not DLC for this game, how about the next game?

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26 Responses to Who wants Zilla for DLC? Or the next game? Or any new game? Anything?

Therizinosaurus Rex(aka Kaijusaurs)

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPJun-25-2015 5:59 PM

As much as I like Zilla, I don't think he's going to be in DLC due to his lack popularity and also because the G-fans would blah blah blah about Zilla being in the game so yeah.

Therizinosaurus for JW2!

Therizinosaurus Rex(aka Kaijusaurs)

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPJun-25-2015 6:00 PM

Also forgot welcome to the sci-fi or sci-fy or whatever you spell it.

Therizinosaurus for JW2!

NateZilla10000

Mothra LarvaeMember75 XPJun-25-2015 6:08 PM

You kidding? Fans have wanted Zilla in a vs video game for a while now.

 

Whether it be to play as him or beat the living crap out of him is relative to the fan we're talking about, but I'd say the majority want him in a game.

ZillaJrKaijuKing

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPJun-25-2015 6:43 PM

Ha, I sure hope that's true.  As long as he gets into a game, either reason is fine by me.

And thank you, Skeleturtle.

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4775 XPJun-25-2015 7:10 PMTeam Ghidorah

Count me in as one of those who wish for Zilla to be forgotten and no longer used in any official capacity. That being said, if Toho sees an opportunity to make money of him, they will.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Therizinosaurus Rex(aka Kaijusaurs)

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPJun-25-2015 7:14 PM

^

 

That's too bad because there are always be people who likes Zilla.

Therizinosaurus for JW2!

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4775 XPJun-25-2015 7:29 PMTeam Ghidorah

"there are always be people who likes Zilla."

And likely more who don't. I'm the latter.

That being said, I'm sure Toho will use him again in something. Maybe not a movie, but seeing as he was last seen in IDW's comics, there's clearly still a market for Toho to exploit with him.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

The King of the Monsters

Mothra LarvaeMember2 XPJun-25-2015 8:55 PM

^ Zilla actually was just featured in this year's Japanese mobile game Godzilla: Kaiju Collection.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4775 XPJun-25-2015 10:29 PMTeam Ghidorah

^I completely forgot that was a thing. Alright, so the most recent he's been used in some sort of merchandise material was this very year. I suppose the way Toho sees it there's no such thing as too many monsters.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Durp004

BaragonMember425 XPJun-25-2015 11:08 PM

I mean not like having him in the game would hurt it.

Something Real

GodzillaMember5639 XPJun-25-2015 11:27 PM

ZILLAJRKAIJUKING - Welcome to SCIFIED! It is always quite agreeable to see new faces! With regards to your thoughts: I believe such an instance is not impossible. There are many people in the world who would like to either play as Zilla or give him a sound thrashing using their favorite version of Godzilla. Personally, I do not see it as an issue; I am neither for nor against Zilla. Not only that, but, as GMAN2887 so wisely stated, Toho will gladlay utilize Zilla if they feel there is money to be made from doing so.

Once again, welcome to SCIFIED! :)

wolfguy

Mothra LarvaeMember7 XPJun-25-2015 11:31 PM

They'd lave to change a good portion of the dynamics of the game for him really. Watching the trailers for the game, they've stayed true to the sizes of the monsters so far. They haven't really leveled out anyone or increased/decreased anyone's size thus far. Showa Mecha-Godzilla really can't stand up to Heisei Godzilla. If they included Zilla, he'd be much smaller than all other kaiju. His size would dictate what he'd be able to destroy in most of the "destructictle environments," but it'd be interesting to play a kaiju who could run around the city streets instead of simply stomping through them or flying over them. It'd add a different dimension. And if they ever wanted to add a challenge to multiplayer battles, 'Zilla might just be a breath of fresh air.

Durp004

BaragonMember425 XPJun-26-2015 4:04 AM

They have definitely altered sizes in that game. Mechagodzilla(50 meters) Mechagodzilla 2(120 meters) and Kiryu(60 meters) are all shown together and they're all close to the same size. I haven't paid enough attention to the game or the trailers to see other monsters in their specs, but judging off that alone I doubt there were be much variance. 

ZillaJrKaijuKing

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPJun-26-2015 4:57 AM

Thanks, SOMETHING REAL!

I'd really like to see Zilla in a game other than a smartphone game that's exclusive to Japan.  I'm pretty sure they included him in that one mainly because the point of the game was to have as many kaiju as possible.  In the upcoming game(s?), he might be a nice change of pace from the rest of the cast, too, which is mostly bulky, slow monsters.

Something Real

GodzillaMember5639 XPJun-26-2015 1:40 PM

ZILLAJRKAIJUKING - You are most welcome! I hope you enjoy everything the community has to offer! :)

KingKaijuGojira

TitanosaurusMember926 XPJun-26-2015 2:10 PM

That depends. Are we talking about Zilla or Zilla Jr? I like Zilla Jr more since he had radioactive fire breath (different from Godzilla's Atomic Breath/Ray) and didn't lay eggs. But I still like Zilla so yeah, I would like to see him, or the Jr incarnation, in a video game.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

Huge-Ben

BaragonMember330 XPJun-26-2015 4:51 PM

Well, I'm also on the latter with Gman2887. I could care less than to see that piece of crap iguana in a game, much less talk about it or even see it in another film. 

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/  check out my gallery of Godzilla artwork! Follow me on [email protected]

dinoboy22

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPJun-26-2015 7:04 PM

i wouldnt mind it but the combat in the game is mostly slow and lumbering like the heisei era so he would quite advantage in the speed department and it would change the physics in the game immensely so maybe in a future title not this one

ZillaJrKaijuKing

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPJun-26-2015 9:13 PM

That depends. Are we talking about Zilla or Zilla Jr?

I was thinking Zilla since Zilla Jr. would be practically impossible to include due to legal issues, but I would choose Zilla Jr. over Zilla if it were possible.

i wouldnt mind it but the combat in the game is mostly slow and lumbering like the heisei era so he would quite advantage in the speed department and it would change the physics in the game immensely so maybe in a future title not this one

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't larva mothra already a fairly fast character?  At least, that's what I think I remember reading.

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4775 XPJun-27-2015 12:51 AMTeam Ghidorah

"I was thinking Zilla since Zilla Jr. would be practically impossible to include due to legal issues"

Although there would be no legal issues if Toho wanted to okay the specific character for the game, the big issue is that there technically is no "Zilla Jr." Due to their deal with Tristar in 1992, they would not be allowed to call the animated incarnation of GINO "Zilla Jr."

To clarify, fans tend to get confused about the rebranding of the GINO (Godzilla In Name Only) character. Fans often call the creature from the 1998 movie "Zilla" to assure themselves it's not Godzilla. They also call the star of Godzilla: The Series "Zilla Jr." This isn't technically accurate.

Toho's rebranding is not retroactive. It only applies to the creature of the same design AFTER 2003. To quote Matt Frank in Keith Aiken's article on Sony's Unmade Godzilla:

"The [1998] film itself is recognized as GODZILLA, as is the animated series. Ever since 2004, Toho’s official stance has been that any future incarnations of the character be referred to hereafter as ‘Zilla’.”

Additionally, Aiken confirmed the copyright information for the 1998 movie:

"As of 2015, the copyrights for the 1998 film are as follows…

Sony Pictures: © 1998 TRISTAR PICTURES, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. GODZILLA ® and the GODZILLA character and design are trademarks of Toho Co., Ltd. The GODZILLA character and design are copyrighted works of Toho Co., Ltd. All are used with permission.

Toho: GODZILLA [1998 Edition] © 1998 TRISTAR PICTURES, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ©???? TOHO CO??LTD? ALL RIGHTS?RESERVED"

This means that the creature in the 1998 movie and animated series is still legally "Godzilla". Only the versions of the creature as of 2004 are "Zilla".

So the insult to Godzilla isn't wiped clean with some rebranding. Meanwhile, the fan moniker "GINO" is still relevant in fan circles when refering to the 1998 movie.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Huge-Ben

BaragonMember330 XPJun-27-2015 11:19 AM

^Which is a load of horse####!

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/  check out my gallery of Godzilla artwork! Follow me on [email protected]

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4775 XPJun-27-2015 12:13 PMTeam Ghidorah

Easy Ben. This has been the case the whole time so there's no need to explode about it now.

The fact is the creature from Godzilla '98 and Godzilla: The Series today, is legally, "Godzilla". (So if fans still wish to call it GINO, they have their reasons intact.) Other fans who try to defend the movie with "It's not really Godzilla, it's Zilla," is wrong. It's still Godzilla... but "In Name Only" as most agree.

The creature in Godzilla: Final Wars, IDW's Godzilla Rulers of Earth and the mobile game is "Zilla" since the rebranding didn't go into effect until 2004.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

npinkham19

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPJun-27-2015 2:33 PM

Am I the only one who wants Kumonga for the game? People could say he's just a spider but Godzilla's second most popular kaiju is a giant moth. While we're at it throw in some kamacarus. More variety, less humanoid characters orwhy not throw in a mammal, King Seesar

Something Real

GodzillaMember5639 XPJun-27-2015 3:21 PM

GMAN2887 - You know, I was not aware of that bit of legal information? I find that to be very interesting. Not that I want such a thing, but I wonder if TRISTAR would be able to create another Godzilla film in the same vein as Godzilla '98? This is exceedingly compelling! :)

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4775 XPJun-27-2015 3:41 PMTeam Ghidorah

Something Real,
The option for Sony/Tristar to make another Godzilla film expired in 2003. They only own television and home video rights for the '98 movie in perpetuity. They also own the North American home video and television rights for the Heisei movies and Millennium films. They'll have the option to re-new those rights around 2022, give or take a couple years. (Sans The Return of Godzilla and Godzilla vs. Biollante.)

So with their option to make another film with the title or character "Godzilla" long expired, and Toho's current deal with Legendary Pictures in full swing, Sony has no more rights to make a new Godzilla movie than you or I do.

EDIT: Correction and more specifics. Sony's television and home video rights for Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah and Godzilla and Mothra: The Battle for Earth end in 2019. The rest of the Heisei and Millennium movies they own North American distribution rights to end 2023-2025.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Something Real

GodzillaMember5639 XPJun-27-2015 8:07 PM

GMAN2887 - Okay; excellent. Thank you ever so much for the clarification! As an aside, I am astounded by your fluent knowledge of this material! :)

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