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What would Ghidorah look like?

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Willnotbenamed

MemberBaragonJun-29-2017 8:08 AM

Will Ghidorah in this 2019 film look more like

1.This fan art design

or

2.This other fan art design

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The Jurassic Bootleg

MemberBaragonAug-14-2017 3:11 PM

^

and give him extra eyes, it would make him more menacing and more alien like(since the Space origin is very likely to happen base on Mike's retweets about space related stuff).

 

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

Willnotbenamed

MemberBaragonAug-16-2017 7:33 AM

Yes, I wonder what liberates will Godzilla 2 take with Ghidorah's design?

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaAug-16-2017 5:44 PM

Hopefully not too much. I threw a poll up for fans on Twitter. Luckily 86% of them are sane.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

riggzamortis86

MemberTitanosaurusAug-17-2017 7:02 AM

I hope the same passion is put into the thought of King Ghidorah for this movie. According to those cave paintings it looks like we will have a traditional king ghidorah, but who knows.

YOU.....DUMBBELL!

TrapZilla

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-18-2017 5:43 AM

This is what I imagine everytime G man says Wing Walker

All right all right all right

riggzamortis86

MemberTitanosaurusAug-18-2017 11:17 AM

^He looks sick. please kill it

YOU.....DUMBBELL!

kaiju_khamodon54

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-23-2017 4:33 AM

He seems to have a mane, like a Chinese dragon 

NateZilla10000

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-24-2017 1:19 PM

I understand your reasoning Gman but you have to admit that pole is a little biased. XD

Having two being named mocking titles and the third one be named "The Real King Ghidorah" makes people lean a little towards that last option.


Anyways, personally I wouldn't mind a wing walker Ghidorah; Smaug pulled it off pretty well and still managed to be towering as well as threatening. Plus, It might be cool if Ghidorah moves around normally on 4 limbs but when it's time to battle, he rears up and displays his wings in full to make his appearance even larger. But eh, I can see them going both directions.

I will not accept a King Ghidorah with more than 4 limbs though. X) 2 Wings and 2 legs. That's all you get. And you better be golden.

The Jurassic Bootleg

MemberBaragonAug-24-2017 3:40 PM

I honestly wouldn't mind seeing Wing Walking Ghidorah as long he or they(3 heads) uses them in combat like pinning his opponent down, punching, scratching, sumo wrestling and etc.

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaAug-24-2017 10:55 PM

"as long he or they(3 heads) uses them in combat like pinning his opponent down, punching, scratching, sumo wrestling and etc."

So everything his wings shouldn't be used for and just make him a three headed Smaug. Got it.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Willnotbenamed

MemberBaragonMar-25-2018 7:20 PM

I hope that the final design for Ghidorah is of a sleek, yet muscular build. Not too skinny, to the point of virtual chicken legs. That would ruin the intimidation factor of Ghidorah. But, Ghidorah also shouldn't be so fat and bulky that it too take way too much suspicion of belief that he would be capable of flight.

thereal9thdoctor

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-28-2018 10:52 AM

Hi, all! Just joined. Here's my take on Ghidrah's design, and I pray it's gonna be like this.

 

riggzamortis86

MemberTitanosaurusMar-28-2018 11:40 AM

^Welcome! Neat pic

YOU.....DUMBBELL!

thereal9thdoctor

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-28-2018 11:43 AM

riggzamortis86

Mar-28-2018 11:40 AM

 

^Welcome! Neat pic

 

YOU.....DUMBBELL!

Thanks!

The Jurassic Bootleg

MemberBaragonMar-30-2018 3:08 PM

I still want to see this.

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

MinecraftDinoKaiju

MemberTitanosaurusApr-02-2018 9:47 AM

^

Never thought I'd see a King Ghidorah with three "eyes" on each head. It just screams either "Illuminati Confirmed" or "It is a sign of the Devil". Awesome, but unsettling.

Indoraptor 2000

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-22-2018 12:43 PM

I expect something wyvern-ish design, but to be honnest as long as it is good in the end, im fine with it...

The Jurassic Bootleg

MemberBaragonMay-22-2018 3:41 PM

To me, as long he has 2 legs, 2 wings(Could be any kinds of wings), and 2 tails, its King Ghidorah, for me anyway.

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

Xenotaris

MemberGiganMay-22-2018 6:36 PM

i swear some Godzilla fans are uncompromising. The wing walking Ghidorah will be fine, i mean if you want King Ghidorah the way Toho has it then why not just watch a Toho movie and be done with it.

Also having King Ghidorah frozen in Antarctica since the Permian period would be impossible: Earth didn't have a polar ice cap until way after the dinosaurs went extinct. Perhaps he got frozen during the Pleistocene which was 4 million years ago, basically the start of the Ice Age.

 

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMay-22-2018 9:06 PM

"The wing walking Ghidorah will be fine"

Sure it'll be fine. It won't be Ghidorah, though.

"Also having King Ghidorah frozen in Antarctica since the Permian period would be impossible: Earth didn't have a polar ice cap until way after the dinosaurs went extinct."

You really think a movie in a universe that uses the Hollow Earth Theory, which has been debunked since the 1800s, is all that concerned with scientific accuracy?

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

NateZilla10000

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-22-2018 9:30 PM

Yeah this is a kaiju flick. All scientific accuracy instantly flies out the window with that.

There was no point in life's time on Earth where the environment was "more radioactive than the present", for instance. That was a big point of the G2014.

The Legend of Brian

MemberBaragonMay-22-2018 10:29 PM

I do want to respond to Gman, since while I do agree the wingwalker idea would be a poor decision and not something I'd personally prefer, I think if that's the only major change they make to Ghidorah, I'd be more willing to look over it as artistic liberty. 

Since the anniversary just passed, I think Godzilla 1998 would be a good example. Let's say hypothetically all that was different in '98 was the design. It had the atomic breath and wasn't killed by the military(or ran away). Would it still be Godzilla? I think technically yes. Godzilla is an irradiated amphibious creature that walks on two legs with massive dorsal plates and breathes an atomic heat ray, broadly speaking. It's a radical redesign, but if that were the only thing changed, I think most would consider it Godzilla. It was this radical design change on top of the other changes and just a generally poor movie that made it easily acceptable for the fans to say it's simply not Godzilla.

In the case of Ghidorah, if it's a golden three-headed dragon that fires gravity beams that resemble lightning bolts and has two massive wings and two legs it can stand on (if they do the wing walker design, I'd hope Ghidorah would at least be able to stand upright for some length of time), I think it'll look OK at least. I'm not saying I'd like it, or it'd even work, but I don't think an aesthetic change like that is worth saying it'll be a total failure. I can appreciate the filmmakers wanting to at least try something different, if Toho even allows them to of course. 

I just think it's a slight rush to conclusions to say that if Ghidorah is a wing walker, it's not Ghidorah. Hell we can't even be sure if the technology had been available back then, Ghidorah could've very well been a wing walker in some of the older films. 

The idea of an evolving Godzilla a decade ago would've been called sacrilege, but I think most of us here like how it turned out. It can't be as dumb as Kaiser Ghidorah at least. I'd argue that was an even more radical redesign compared to wing walkers since it added appendages. 

I do maintain a "it's not broken so don't fix it" mentality for the design, but to a certain extent, I think something new would be a good direction to go in so long as it's not REALLY different

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMay-22-2018 11:04 PM

The Legend of Brian,
The thing is Toho has established that "King" Ghidorah is different from other incarnations. We have two other "Ghidorahs" that are fundamentally different, though loosely related in design--But it's very clear they're not King Ghidorah. If it's a golden three-headed dragon that fires gravity beams that resemble lightning bolts and has two massive wings and two legs it can stand on... It could be Keizer Ghidorah... (He did stand on his hind legs.)

Toho has gotten away with multiple designs of King Ghidorah without changing the silhouette of the character. It works. If Legendary is too lazy to avoid the countless fanart out there depicting a Wing-walkdorah then it fails.

Though the point might be moot... These images were taken at the 2018 Licensing Expo. I'm not prepared to roll out an article that says, "KING GHIDORAH LEAKED" or "IS THIS THE 2019 KING GHIDORAH", but take a look at the screen in the image followed by what the screen says in the second image.

I'm going to do a little more investigating, but... God I hope so...

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMay-22-2018 11:15 PM

Looking in to it more, it seems unlikely this represents a final King Ghidorah design. Still... It's encouraging that a very traditional representation of the real King Ghidorah is shoehorned between footage of the 2014 movie. Here's a youtube video of the images. It should start at 15:57, but if it doesn't now you know where to slide to:

https://youtu.be/cjiMJyFPaA4?t=15m57s

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

NateZilla10000

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-22-2018 11:22 PM

I hate to be the barer of bad news, but that pic looks suspiciously like the same cave painting from the end of the Skull Island movie.

But hey, that just means they're marketing an upright Ghidorah more, so maybe it means they're trying to keep the classic silhouette.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMay-23-2018 6:10 AM

^Not only that, but it's a Toho presentation, not Legendary. It won't be Toho that reveals the final design. But like you said, the fact they're advertising the real King Ghidorah gives me hope.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

The Jurassic Bootleg

MemberBaragonMay-23-2018 7:01 AM

Plot Twist: King Ghidorah is actually only spreading his wings, JK

Anyway, why not have Ghidorah vary from knuckle-walking to standing on two legs? It can work if you did it right.

For People who are too lazy(Wait, are those new BC Godzilla figures?).

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

The Legend of Brian

MemberBaragonMay-23-2018 12:19 PM

I can absolutely agree with the silhouette argument. If the solhouette fails to look like Ghidorah, then the production team failed at a fundamental level. I'd also agree with the Jurassic Bootleg, if they alternated between the two, like an attack and defense stance, I'd be somewhat OK with it. 

On the note of multiple creatures being Ghidorah, such as Kaiser, god forbid we get a wing walker, but would it be correct to view the Monsterverse Ghidorah as a variant? Similar how we do refer to Kaiser Ghidorah as different to King Ghidorah. 

From the one image we have seen so far, I hope all this discussion is moot and it's just a simple design update like we got for Godzilla. 

NateZilla10000

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-23-2018 12:50 PM

"Monsterverse Ghidorah as a variant? Similar how we do refer to Kaiser Ghidorah as different to King Ghidorah. "

That is entirely up to the people making the movie. The only thing it needs to be a member of the Ghidorah family is basically 3 heads and a dragonic form. But to be KING Ghidorah, which is what they are certainly marketing and such, there's more stipulations to match along with the base 3 head one. Golden body, two wings, two legs, gravity/lightning beams, etc.

Again, if the film makers just want to make a new Ghidorah, then all they'd essentially have to do is make a unique looking three headed dragon. But if they want to do King Ghidorah, a simple three headed dragon isn't going to be enough to earn the title.

The Legend of Brian

MemberBaragonMay-23-2018 1:16 PM

Though I'm talking about as far as us fans would be concerned? If it had everything that makes "Ghidorah" Ghidorah but was a wing walker, would we as a community view it as a variant like Kaiser? 

Sony referred to their monster as Godzilla, but we as a community agreed that it wasn't Godzilla, even before Toho made the Zilla name. 

So if Ghidorah does turn out to be a wing walker, Legendary would refer to it as KING Ghidorah, but would we as a community look at it as just a Ghidorah varient, since it's not so far removed from the Toho creation as Zilla was. 

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