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Gigan is one of the most requested kaiju to appear in the monsterverse, but I always thought it wouldn’t make much sense to put an alien cyborg in a grounded universe. But more recently my opinions have changed on this subject. This forum will explain what I think could be a great way to introduce Gigan in a grounded universe such as the monsterverse.

Recently I had a conversation on my other forum for Mechagodzilla about aliens joining the monsterverse with Mechagodzilla. I suggested that aliens would take Mechagodzilla, King Ghidorah, and the male Muto into space and transform them to be alien weapons. Mechagodzilla would just get some extra weapons (probably inspired by the Showa Mechagodzilla). King Ghidorah would get turned into Mecha-King Ghidorah. And the male Muto would turn into GIGAN.

Now that might seem very farfetched, but that is what I think is the best and most believable way to introduce Gigan into a realistic setting. Here are some physical elements that the male Muto and Gigan have in common.

  • The big red eye
  • Hook-like hands
  • A beak (sort of)
  • The ability to fly
  • A place for the buzzsaw in the chest (the place where the male Muto got stabbed in 2014)
  • same colors as the 2004 Gigan

Now that might not be many similarities, but with some upgrades, it might work. Now I will list some upgrades to make the male Muto truly look like Gigan. each of the upgrades will have a reason behind it. 

Btw, the aliens could also use some body parts from the female Muto to make some of these things possible (like the stronger legs).

  • Metal spikes on the head (antenna for the alien controls)
  • Metal beak and 2 claws around the mouth area (used for biting attack)
  • Metal Hooks (stronger and more painful version of the standard Muto hooks)
  • Make him stand upright (used so he can use his hooks better)
  • Shorter/stronger legs (used to stand upright)
  • Metal tail (used to stand upright)
  • Higher pitched Muto roar (to sound like Gigan's roar)
  • Metal feet (used for standing upright and to have a better balance)
  • Buzzsaw in the chest (used for up close attack)
  • Eye laser (used for long-range attack)
  • Smaller Wings and fins on his back (to more look like Gigan and so he can glide instead of flying)

I do think that each monster that gets up ducted by the aliens, would be controlled by the aliens remotely. this would give each monster (robot or not) to have their own personality. I do want the alien that controllers Gigan to have the same personality as Gigan from the Showa/millennium series. That way Gigan will still get his personality. I want him to be very violent, but a coward and overconfident. At some point I want Gigan to try and flee when the battle turns against him and fail.

This version of Gigan would be pretty short (about 80 meters), but he could be agiler this way.

This is the end of this forum. yes I know it was very short, but I don’t have anything else to say here. I might make a forum for aliens in the monsterverse by themselves. If you have any theories for Gigan in the monsterverse, please leave it in the comment section. Any opinion is welcome.

note: sorry for the small text at some point, but I don't know how to fix that.

 

links to my other forums in this series.

Mechagodzilla: http://www.godzilla-movies.com/topic/47355

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This is a fun idea, my only concern would be that this version of Gigan would be super small compared to Godzilla and crew.

Isnt the male MUTO around 250ft tall? Compared to Godzilla at 350ft tall? Despite the upgrades I still wouldn't see this Gigan much of a threat to a monster towering over them. But still wouldn't mind this idea of Gigan forming. Cool idea.

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That is truly one of the biggest (no pun intended) problems for this idea to work. Just like I said, I think they could use the female muto too seeing as she is about 300 ft/90 meters tall. They could also be a bit more Frankenstein and use different body parts from both muto. That’s just a wild guess though.

also the height might change seeing as I want gigan to stand upright.

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Just simply make Gigan a larger subspecies of MUTO that was turned into a cyborg.

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

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^well that would possibly solve the issue of height. The point is that the origin of Gigan would be from the male MUTO from G14. He is still intact and the wounds on his body would go great with the idea of a Gigan hybrid. If we just through in any other different kind of MUTO, it might not captivate us as much.

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small update

I have tried to make a possible design for the male Muto as Gigan with the upgrades I named in the forum. I am not very good at designing digitally myself, but this is the best I could do. What do you guys think?

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thought I would make a picture with the wings closed. personally, think it worked out really well.

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I like it.

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

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He's an alien creature made into a cyborg. No need for a revamp. It's to me more believable than the MUTO thing.

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really cool

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they could do that. but the thing is that if Gigan is just another space monster, it would not have the same feeling to it. if the male Muto ends up being Gigan, it would be the first time we would have seen Gigan before he gets turned into a cyborg. with my idea of male Muto being Gigan, it would be a version of Gigan we have never seen before.

why would an alien monster even be more believable than the Muto idea? the Muto we already knew from 2014 movie doesn't need an explanation, whilst a new monster for Gigan would need an entire backstory that could take away some other important time from the movie.

if Giga appears in the last movie of the monsterverse, it would all come full circle seeing as the Muto was the first villain of the monsterverse and will be one of the last.

btw thanks to riggzamortis86 and The Jurassic Bootleg for the positive feedback. 

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It would be cool to see a Gigan with a backstory in this Universe. and I would not shy away from a concept like this. If only the size of the beast could be heightened and explained I would back this story.

Maybe the Male Muto was not done growing? perhaps the male MUTO was still in its infancy? A still maturing male MUTO that still needed to grow to be more of an Adult? IDk. Im sure there are a bunch of holes in that one. Just throwing out ideas.

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they could do that. maybe the Muto's have some biological system that the still age even though its dead. another option is if the upgrades make him "look" taller.

for example, the spike on his head could be around 7 meters tall. the fact that he stands upright might ad around 8 meters of height and the feet can get a few meters taller as well. this would mean that Gigan would be around 80 meters tall or something.

btw, Gigan doesn't necessarily need to fight Godzilla. maybe he could fight Rodan, Mothra or Anguirus seeing as I think those monsters would be around the same height/smaller as Gigan.

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That's true, he doesn't have to fight Godzilla. It would be cool to see Rodan and Gigan in the same frame for once.

Maybe the MUTO's have a similar system where when the female dies, the male changes its sex in order to accommodate making eggs, making the male MUTO grow along with having the wings. That would be a game changer.

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You know what would be cool and controversial? if Gigan in the MonsterVerse is a rare variant of MUTO instead of a cyborg?

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but isn't Gigan being a cyborg the thing that makes Gigan so unique? only mecha-king Ghidorah shares the idea and he was only in 1 movie. if they remove the cyborg part from Gigan, it would make him just another Muto.

the male Muto just makes a lot more sense to me. his body is intact and the wounds give the possibility of mechanical parts (especially the chest saw).

 

riggzamortis86

about the idea of the male Muto to change gender and grow. I actually really like that idea of the male Muto evolving like that. it makes sense too and I can definitely believe that as a just a person that likes movies. the only question is if this workes when the Muto is dead.

Muto's are said to have a biological system that we don't even understand. this also gives Gigan the stronger legs to stay upright.

+ with the cybernetic upgrades, Gigan would be around Godzilla's size.

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^Im saying if we are going into Alien cyborg technology theories here, if the Alien or whatever terrestrial being somehow collects the Male Muto and looks into its biology, perhaps they would discover this trait and somehow "activate" or "enhance" the process making the male Muto even larger by forcing its sex to change into female.

So even if the male muto is dead, and they perform an alien Frankenstein on this male Muto, they might (somehow, Im not sure here Im just spit balling) be able to "trigger" this change in its sex and make the first ever female Gigan. That is my theory on how to make MUTO into Gigan, and big enough to be a threat to even Godzilla.

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That's why I said controversial.

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

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If Gigan is going to turn into a female Kaiju, than I do not want him to look fully like a female muto. For example I don’t want Gigan to have 6 legs. If the male muto just gets some elements from the female muto (probably her size and her stronger legs) than I would be fine with that.

btw, I do really like that very detailed concept art for muto Gigan. Wasn’t there one of rodan as well?

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Like I said, he would still have the wings since he was born with them?  Since its still part cyborg maybe we can take some liberties here.

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Thought I would let you guys know that I will be doing more of these “how to include into the monsterverse” forums. I have a lot of fun making them and talking about them with other Godzilla fans.

I was wondering what Kaiju you guys would like to see me tackle in one of these. For as of right now the next one will likely be one of my favourite Kaiju in the series “the king of Okinawa” king Caesar.

Btw, the Kaiju that you want to see me tackle next do have to be a bit more difficult to explain in a grounded universe. For example Anguirus, Varan, Baragon, Gorosaurus, destroyah, etc already kind of fit in a grounded universe. Give me a challenge like Gigan or MechaGodzilla.

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