GodzillaMember8212 XPNov-09-2019 7:39 PM...and ONLY humanity. Then apes and monkeys take over and........balance is restored. Good riddance and goodbye! It is a cynical perverted crossover movie but hey- give your thoughts!
GodzillaMember8212 XPNov-10-2019 8:13 PMTheLazyFish Valid point- sci fi movies at their core examiner the worst about humanity and technology. You are spot on imo!
GodzillaMember8212 XPNov-10-2019 8:27 PMTheLazyFish The Thing, Sunshine and Night of the Living Dead just for starters.
RodanMember1630 XPNov-10-2019 8:29 PMYeah... haven't watched those yet lol
If people weren't lazy, we wouldn't try to be efficient. If we weren't efficient, we'd never get anything done.
GiganMember4201 XPNov-10-2019 10:04 PMTeam Mothradk Wait Humanity survived the zombie apocalypse in the original Night of the Living Dead. Because at the end of the film, there were people hunting down the last of the zombies and mistaken killed the main character on accident thinking he was a zombie. It was kind of his fault for just popping out of the house without saying a word. But yeah humanity won...just not the central main characters since most of them were killed by the zombies, by their own stupidity, or by a redneck.
GiganMember4201 XPNov-10-2019 10:20 PMTeam Mothradk Well I study human evolution in high school for a social studies project, unfortunately nobody appreciated it because well it talked about evolution and human evolution at that.
GodzillaAdmin5253 XPNov-12-2019 10:25 PMTeam GhidorahThey kinda did this already in the anime trilogy.
GodzillaMember8212 XPNov-12-2019 11:04 PMI suppose one could step outside of sci fi to see every body die.
GiganMember4201 XPNov-12-2019 11:16 PMTeam Mothra
Yet humans still survived in the anime trilogy
GiganMember4201 XPNov-12-2019 11:34 PMTeam Mothra
still wrong about The Night of the Living Dead were everyone dies, humanity survived that night just not the main characters (mostly due to the carelessness from the MC, the MC accidentally killed the young guy and the pretty girl by leaving a flaming torch next to gasoline. The zombies were lured to the house due to the main cast gathering in the main house rather than bunkering down in the basement were ironically the MC uses to wait out the zombies. he died at the end for not talking to the fellow survivors and was shot by mistake due to the survivors thinking he was a zombie)
GiganMember4201 XPNov-13-2019 1:13 AMTeam Mothra
But on agreeable note, Alien Covenant, those colonist are all DOOMED!
GodzillaAdmin5253 XPNov-13-2019 6:19 AMTeam GhidorahXenotaris,
A form of humans. The remnants of the human race were largely killed on the Aratrum. The ones still on Earth will likely get phased out by the Houtua, who are only part human. The human race as we know it no longer exists.
TitanosaurusMember968 XPNov-13-2019 8:56 AMOk, so getting back on topic, I don't think this plot will work with Monsterverse Godzilla as it is just too out-of-line with his "character". (Quotations are there because we know very little of it as of 2019. You're welcome, future readers.)
GiganMember4201 XPNov-13-2019 10:57 AMTeam Mothra
Houtua are an evolutionary offshoot of mankind, they are still biologically humans at a cladistic viewpoint. Just as Birds are still theropod dinosaurs, Houtua are still humans there for humanity is still alive and not extinct because they left behind decedents. Also the Houtua can interbreed with humans so there is another indication that they are humans.
At a scientific standpoint the two "species" would be viewed
Baseline Humans: Homo sapiens sapiens
Houtua: Homo sapiens houtua
GodzillaAdmin5253 XPNov-13-2019 11:21 AMTeam GhidorahHence, "as we know it, no longer exists".
GiganMember4201 XPNov-13-2019 12:01 PMTeam MothraI'm not talking about the extinction of baseline humans, I'm talking about the extinction of the whole clade!
TitanosaurusMember968 XPNov-13-2019 12:19 PMYou mean Homo Sapiens or all hominids in general?
GiganMember4201 XPNov-13-2019 12:22 PMTeam MothraJust members of the genus of Homo. Chimpanzees, Bonobos, Gorillas, and Orangutans are to be spared. Gibbions are hominoids so they are even further from being related to humans, so they should be spared as well.
TitanosaurusMember968 XPNov-13-2019 12:36 PMSo that means a yes for the hominids (i.e. Modern Humans, Neanderthals, Australopithecus afarensis, homo erectus, etc.)?
GiganMember4201 XPNov-13-2019 12:43 PMTeam MothraThe Australopithecines (Humans and their ancestors and extinct cousins) branch of Hominini, so yes.
TitanosaurusMember854 XPNov-13-2019 12:51 PM“The human race as we know it no longer exists”
I believe the quote above is meant to represent the civilizational aspect of humanity, not the evolutional sense. Kind of like Ancient Rome’s (Western Roman Empire, to be precise) collapse with the people who lived in its domain and continued to exist until their gradual absorption by barbarian kingdoms that rose to dominance.
*Edited for timeframe clarity and correction*
GodzillaAdmin5253 XPNov-13-2019 1:01 PMTeam GhidorahThe Hooded Figure,
You need to lurk around these parts more often.
GiganMember4201 XPNov-13-2019 4:05 PMTeam Mothra"I believe the quote above is meant to represent the civilizational aspect of humanity, not the evolutional sense. Kind of like Ancient Rome’s (Western Roman Empire, to be precise) collapse with the people who lived in its domain and continued to exist until their gradual absorption by barbarian kingdoms that rose to dominance."
That still implies humans were not wiped out by Godzilla
TitanosaurusMember854 XPNov-13-2019 4:51 PMYes, humans were not wiped out entirely and continued to exist, and a subspecies of humans (the Houtua) alongside them; however, because humans will be living alongside the Houtua, and Haruo, having destroyed the last remnants of Nanometal that could have rebuilt human civilization (as explained by Martin Lazzari), humans (being the minority among the Houtua) will gradually become absorbed into Houtua society. Thus my example with Ancient Rome’s collapse and its people becoming absorbed into the rising barbarian kingdoms, and hence G. H. (Gman)’s quote “the human race as we know it no longer exists” because humanity (figuratively speaking) met its end to Godzilla.
GiganMember4201 XPNov-13-2019 6:13 PMTeam Mothrastill humans remain in the form of houtua, just Homo sapiens sapiens ceases to exist while Homo sapiens houtua survives. I want the human clade to fall into extinction to where no members of Homo sapiens or their decedents survive Godzilla
TitanosaurusMember616 XPNov-19-2019 2:47 PMI don't really like this idea. What about the common everyday people who don't really want to cause trouble? Are they guilty by association?
Besides, all my best friends are humans!
A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.
BaragonMember458 XPNov-19-2019 3:03 PM@JurassicKaiju Extinction isn’t a new concept in cautionary tales, but the Godzilla films have always been about, at least for me, rebirth and redemption after punishment. So I personally don’t think that would fit. But looking back on it, Extinction stories can be effective if done well.
Angering the Godzilla fan base one take at a time
GiganMember4201 XPNov-19-2019 3:23 PMTeam MothraI always dislike the humans are special trope and humans always manage to survive after alien/zombie/robot/kaiju incursion why not take the extra step and off the entire clade? No more humans, no more posthumans, and no more transhumans. I mean extinction is a very natural part of evolution and nothing lasts forever, so why should humans? The planet earth is going to be stripped of life in 1 billion years, so everything will eventually become extinct
GodzillaMember8212 XPNov-19-2019 3:36 PMWhat about the common everyday people who don't really want to cause trouble? Are they guilty by association?
You, me and every body else. No exceptions.
Seems to put us all on equal footing that way and realize we need to find a way to work things out together. It might sound sappy but is probably true.
