Favorite Reiwa Series Godzilla (So far)

SarcasticGoji,
Hell of an episode too...

I thought shin godzilla was really unique, and I wish we got more "unsettling" depictions of godzilla in the past, because they somehow made a scary movie not with jumpscares or fear, but just by showing how disgustingly gross and cruel the creature was.

Sir_Caleb_

that’s body horror

videodrome godzilla

Shin Godzilla never seemed scary to me, then Again, I really like scary movies

so i’m desensitized 

I’m alone in the Godzilla Ultima choice I guess

"videodrome godzilla"

Heh.

HinikunaGoji 

Exactly, the anime trilogy manage to do something I never thought was possible, make a confrontation between Godzilla and Ghidorah boring. Seriously, I've never seen a kaiju fight try so hard to be that uninteresting, every time something potentially cool started to happen the movie basically said "screw it, that's to much work" and bailed on the idea. People can say what they want about King of the Monsters (I love that movie, but I will admit that it had a lot of problems), at least that movie gave us some worthwhile fights between Godzilla and Ghidorah, heck, the brief confrontation between Godzilla and the giant condor in Ebirah: Horror of the Deep! was more of a fight than the one that they had in The Planet Eater. You want to see the fight from The Planet Eater? just look at the poster, that's pretty much the entire thing. The fact that they built up that "fight" for three movies, only to give us one of the laziest battle in Godzilla history is kind of insulting. And don't get me started on the fact that they heavily marketed Mechagodzilla for City on the Edge of Battle, only for him NOT to show up in that film (him turning into a useless city doesn't count). 

Mechagodzilla City could have been cool. The buildings could have been mechs. seriously. 

HinikunaGoji,
They seem to have been a loose homage to Terror of MechaGodzilla.

The false advertising of MechaGodzilla is definitely my most bothersome issue with the anime trilogy, but like the false advertising of 2014, it's been long enough that I don't care anymore. Both stand on their own story apart from the marketing pretty well.

 HinikunaGoji

As dumb as the whole "Mechagodzilla city" idea is, they could of done something unique and creative. They could have created something new and it could have been very memorable, the problem is that they didn't even try to do that, they just turned Mechagodzilla into a city for no reason and had it barely do anything. The other thing that bugs me about is that the movies build up the idea of it having an advanced artificial intelligence, yet everything that done by Mechagodzilla is directly controlled by the aliens. So what was the point of giving it artificial intelligence? 

In my opinion anime Mechagodzilla is the worst interpretation of the character, because it barely does anything. It's built to be the ultimate defense against Godzilla, yet when Godzilla attacks and MG is sent to fight him, it just refuses to activate and gets destroyed by Godzilla. Later they find out that it wasn't completely destroyed and has been rebuilding itself for the past 20,000 years to become the "Ultimate Godzilla Destroying Weapon", only for it to turn itself into a city that uses a force field to hide from Godzilla. Then when Godzilla finds MG city, it just allows itself to be completely destroyed, barely attempting to fight back. "Ultimate Godzilla Destroying Weapon" my a**...

"Anime Mechagodzilla, Go Destroy Godzilla!!!" 

SasquaDash

I was with you until this point, “The other thing that bugs me about is that the movies build up the idea of it having an advanced artificial intelligence, yet everything that done by Mechagodzilla is directly controlled by the aliens. So what was the point of giving it artificial intelligence?” 
The artificial intelligence helped further the themes that Mechagodzilla presented in this interpretation. It not only showed nanometal as some dangerous thing, but giving it perceived intelligence. Giving a villain motivation other than, The plot told me to is always a good thing. And by making Nanometal/MG intelligeny, it can portray it more as a villain manipulating the Bilasaludo, which again is something new the anime provided into the godzilla franchise. The bilasaludo weren’t in control, they were pawns.

I’ve noticed some things people seem to get wrong about these films. The biggest one is the nature of the exif. People seem to think their all faith based, when in reality that is completely wrong. If you listen to anything Metphies says, then you know they can literally prove ghidorah exists with math and science. 

As much as I say I don’t like the execution, I really do like these movies.

SasquaDash,
They established that the reason it was hiding, however, was so it could rebuild itself. I also think "allows itself to be destroyed" is a stretch considering Haruo opened fire on it, so it couldn't respond or propagate. The point that he finally landed on was that it might potentially be a grater threat to literal humanity than Godzilla.

HinikunaGoji,
The Exif work more as a cult than a religion. The Planet Eater has a literal "drink the Kool-aid," scene more evocative of Jonestown.

I always found that aspect fascinating, because they seem so convincing until their true motives rain down--Such is the way of most famous cults.

HinikunaGoji

What I meant with the artificial intelligence argument was that they establish that MG can think for itself, yet all of its actions are directly controlled by the Bilusaludo. It never actually thinks for itself, so what was the point of establishing that idea if they never use it?

G. H. (Gman)

I'll admit my statement of it "letting itself be destroyed" was a bit exaggerated, but at the same time both Godzilla and Haruo attack it and it barely does anything to prevent its own destruction. 

SasquaDash

As I tried to say, the bilasaludo are doing what it wants, it doesn’t need to do all the work when others can do it for it.

I will say, the kaiju they didn’t botch in the anime, is Godzilla himself. He had a very commanding screen presence 

The A.I. notion is pretty vague. It seemed to have enough awareness to fortify itself into an entire city, but not to become battle ready. The main issue with the anime trilogy isn't the monster battles, or even the ideas, but the way it subverts logical storytelling for the sake of symbolism. I'm not entirely opposed to it, as it works for stuff like the ending of Shin Godzilla. But moments like those are tight and isolated for the audience to chew on.

The idea that MechaGodzilla is an A.I., in so far that it represents a sort of god to the bilasaludo that must be interpreted and sacrificed to via their own faith (in technology), leaves some logical holes hanging that an entire two movies had the chance to fill. It works for Urobuchi's themes though and the ironic parallels of the bilasaludo's technological practice and paganism isn't lost on me.

Also, I suppose it's better than lip servicing a shoehorned life-vs-artificial-life theme into a movie that had no A.I. Looking at you Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II.