Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 10:59 AMSo I noticed this a couple of trailers and tv spots back but now with the release of the "Nature has an order" tv spot and the wonder con leak I think I can put this out now without feeling too hasty on the subject. In the "It can't be stopped" tv spot and the wc footage for those of you lucky enough to have seen it before the internet police decided to reveal themselves to the our very own Spacegodzilla2 and forced him to purge the video from this website, you'll notice that Godzilla's spines are indeed rather large when compared to their appearance at the end of the "Nature" tv spot. The only other time we get to see his spine's that large was in the official main trailer when he was rising from the water and we decided to throw a nuke at the back of his face. If anyone can grab clips from those instances and post them here you are welcome to. Heck, maybe this has been argued before or maybe I'm looking at nothing. Maybe its just a mere design error that Legendary overlooked. What are you're thoughts on this? If Godzilla's spines are indeed shrinking is it a product of the Muto's doing or is something else at work here? If I'm wrong, well, it's all good talk either way. And as always, let's all keep this discussion civil :]
ratedrex
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 11:56 AMMaybe there are two Godzillas. Because the foot in the teaser trailer looks different than the foot at the airport. Or maybe Godzilla gets bigger after he is nuked by the military. Or maybe the parachuting soldiers inject something into Godzilla that restricts his nuclear consumption, causing him to shrink. However a shrinking Godzilla will do two things that wouldn't be good for box office: (1) It will piss off Godzilla fans (you can't treat Godzilla as if he is the Wicked Witch of the West). (2) Shrinking doesn't make sense. If they are treating Godzilla seriously, you can't have an implausibe solution. We need to see a spectacular finish (like Speilbergs "Jaws"), we can't limp to the finish line.
Moses
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 12:26 PMOh boy.
Why would Godzilla shrink? It makes absolutely no sense for him to shrink just becaus he's running out of radiation.
The 2 Godzilla's theory was put down long ago by the soundtrack. If anything, we would've seen vague references to it in the soundtrack.
It is said in the leaked script that Godzilla loses some of his spines to the MUTOs. But the reasons why his spines look smaller is all perspective.
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
luislock
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 1:03 PMOh man. I think you're overthinking this WAY too much. We are only seeing short glimpses of Godzilla out of context. That's why they look different in the shots but he is not shrinking.When they look small, your seeing them at an angle. When they look huge, you're seeing them in a close up when Godzilla is roaring And Bending Over.
Sicoepath
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 1:05 PMI really hope it's just the angles... I really do... really really do...
Something Real
MemberGodzillaApr-20-2014 1:16 PMDragonlord Tevin
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 2:22 PMI just believe its the camera angles and all, and if it's not then its the failed cgi haha but i dont believe that
thepike
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 2:59 PMMaybe his spines are smaller when he spends time in cold water.......
junkerde
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 3:03 PMnope. it's camera perspective, lens size etc. google the whole concept of camera lenses and angles, and you'll see they can make things in the back look smaller etc. it is a basic concept of cinematography.
MagggleShackle
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 3:47 PMJUNKERDE right it's just the camera angles, took me a while to realize it but once I did it all made sence besides the idea of a shrinking godzilla is really out of left field.
ゴジラ 2014 Rules
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 3:56 PMIf you look on the smash strike figure box and the tail strike box you can tell the diffrence that the smash strike is the damage Godzilla.
Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 6:06 PMThank you all for ypour thoughts but honestly? Angles, god, um...no. We already got shots of him from multiple angles and guess what? Smaller spines all around so I guess that just leaves the cgi being completely off or like one of you already suggested, he loses a little off the top to one of the Muto. I mean, I'm an artist and I know all about angles and perspectives, so no, that isn't it sorry. But hey, I think its funny that we're all okay with giant radioactive monsters running through cities but for some reason we all draw the line at said monsters decreasing in mass when their radiation levels decrease. Um, what? Okay guys, okay...
junkerde
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 8:03 PM> let's all keep this discussion civil
lol don't make me laugh! you reply with a very egotistical high horse comment, because THAT really showed how civil you were (sarcasm). You wanted our thoughts? more like you wanted everyone to agree with you, but seeing as how everyone disagreed you got upset didn't you? Yeah, nothing "civil" about your response at all, I'm not even sure you know what that means LOL! Um, what? Okay kage342, okay...
Chris
AdminSpaceGodzillaApr-20-2014 8:23 PMCool it Junkerde. You're treading the fine line of instigation. Attack the topic, not the individual.
Something Real
MemberGodzillaApr-20-2014 8:25 PMluislock
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 8:52 PMSomething Real has a point, we can't be 100% sure. But honestly I think Shrinking Godzilla is a bit too...heisei series. With the direction this film is going, I don't think he would go that far since he's trying to keep the movie realistic. Like Kage432 said, The world is already accepting Godzilla in the world through a lot of effort. A shrinking Godzilla is just pushing it. I think the reasons for the spikes is simply just because of the angles we have seen Godzilla in since we are seeing them out of context for 3 seconds. That, or editing.
Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 9:18 PMI guess finding something funny is a crime on this site. I didn't know that responding with firm and honest conviction with a hint of personal humor was the equivalent of uncivil behavior. Or maybe you should pipe down a bit and refrain from attacking people after failing to interpret their responses JUNKERDE. I do apologize if I came off as rude, that was not the intent behind my response. I don't take it back either. I was really amused with the "Godzilla shrinking is crazy" train of thought. That's my opinion and like I said before, I AGREE with you all on the point that it might just be a cgi error in some instances.
Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 9:29 PMAnd I really don't think its angles. After all I've seen I find that a bit silly, and I mean no offense by that lol. But hell, if it is then more power to you guys for sticking with your points. But If the Muto are leeching Roidzilla, I think its entirely realistic in the universe that Gareth has established for his spines to show the physical effects of such a drain. And I do respect you guys, honestly, your my G family, even the trigger happy ones like Junkerde. So I apologize again. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I'll pay attention so that I choose my words more carefully.
Something Real
MemberGodzillaApr-20-2014 9:30 PMKage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 9:44 PM@SOMETHING REAL - No worries. This actually happens to me quiet often topside. Some people understand me but I should spend my time understanding you guys. I just get too excited at times for lack of a better word
Something Real
MemberGodzillaApr-20-2014 9:48 PMjunkerde
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 9:54 PM@kage342
that's right. even SomethingReal interpreted your response the same as me. Yes I failed to interpret the response because obviously it's SO easy to tell someone's motivation behind just text on a screen alone.
Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-20-2014 10:09 PM@JUNKERDE - Fair enough, however the difference between the two of you is that she did not attempt to counter my "uncivil" response with another uncivil response. In doing that you've successfully accomplished nothing. Honestly, I understand what happened here. You truly have my apologies. On a side note, if I dropped more lolz in that first response of mine we probably wouldn't be having this discussion right now :)