Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 4:07 PMAfter thinking long and hard on anything I might have missed regarding whats confirmed to be in the new film I suddenly realized something about Godzilla's life cycle. The Godzilla we see in the movie is not the first of his kind, he was born from what I can only assume is a now deceased Godzilla, right? So just like past Godzilla movies featuring the king and Jr. are we dealing with Gareth Edwards version of Godzilla Jr. now mature? If so, suddenly the idea of Godzilla actively seeking out the Muto makes sense. Maybe he's hellbent on killing them. Think about it. In the animal kingdom natural predators do attempt to kill their prey and the prey, if capable will defend themselves, but I doubt Godzilla or the Muto were any different from that. If they came into contact with each other a battle would no doubt ensue, but a part from that I don't think they actively saught each other out regularly. Now I could be completely wrong about this but I just have this feeling, from what I've seen in the WC footage, interviews, and past films if Godzilla's life cycle is the same as his Japanese predecessors, that the king is out for revenge for what happened to his parent. So what do you all think? Is Godzilla an avenger, or am I getting too hyped thinking about this damn movie!?
gtbetta35
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 4:57 PMThis is definitely ranks up there with some of the more idiotic things I've come across on this site.
Something Real
MemberGodzillaApr-23-2014 5:11 PMKage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:20 PMWonder what he found idiotic about a perfectly honest question...
Duratok
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:21 PMI'm thinking he didn't get past the title. He probably thought you meant 'Is Godzilla a member of the Avengers, alongside the likes of Iron Man, Captain America, and the Hulk?'.
Reading can be hard for some people.
Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:24 PMBut to clear things up, when I said avenger, I was not in any way referring to Marvel's avengers. I'm referring to Godzillla avenging his own kind. If anyone else finds that idiotic let me know now and I'll request that a moderator have this thread locked for obvious reasons. Thank you.
Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:27 PMFor those of you who understand what the definition of avenger is and that it is in no way exclusive to a comic fantasy series published by Marvel I thank you for your competence, but at this point I won't fight with people any longer on this site over simple matters.
Duratok
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:28 PMIf that's what he was talking about, it's not your fault. It's his for not getting past the title.
Instead of requesting to have the thread locked, you might want to request a title change.
Something Real
MemberGodzillaApr-23-2014 5:29 PMKage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:31 PMI don't feel that I should have to go to that length but if I must may I ask what I would have to do to get the change requested?
Duratok
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:33 PM'Is Godzilla seeking vengeance against the Mutos?' could work. I wouldn't worry about it until you get a bunch of people saying 'WTF Godzilla isn't owned by Marvel DUUUUURRRR'
Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:34 PM@SOMETHING REAL - I understand you 100% my friend, but in my honest opinion, as a member of any forum site you have the personal obligation to read the opening post or OP before making a post. If you can't do something as simple as that than why even post? You'll sound like the odd one out more often than not. That isn't something I imagine anyone wants, am I right? Read the OP, do it for yourself if not for anyone else.
cockzilla
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:39 PMGetting past the stupid title and for the sake of discussion. G's beef with the monster is more instinct than personal. As gareth said regarding the mutos, it's a major part of the godzillas' life cycle. So forget the "you kill mama, me kill you" shit.
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonApr-23-2014 5:41 PMJust kidding! :) I actually read your WHOLE post before commenting!
Its an interesting idea you have there! Revenge would be a good motivation, and one that audiences could understand and get behind. We'll have to wait and see! :D
"Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science Fiction is the improbable made possible." -Rod Serling
Something Real
MemberGodzillaApr-23-2014 5:41 PMKage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:48 PM@COCKZILLA? - Wait, so getting past the rude forum members that I seem to be attracting and for the sake of discussion, if Gareth said that the Muto are connected to Godzilla's life cycle, why would I forget about the creature's possible motivations for wanting the Muto dead if they present a threat to not only him but his potential offspring? Ignoring that "shit" seems to be the opposite of creating threads that provoke everyone into speculation regarding what we DO NOT KNOW about in the upcoming film, do you follow? You may be right of course and everything in Godzilla is driven by *mere instinct, but its always fun to speculate. BTW, I'm thinking about changing the thread title to READ THE OP ;) lol
Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:53 PMThank you guys for your thoughts, and of course to DANZILLA93 for the throwback Godzilla vs Avengers scan lol. I'll keep this ship rolling then.
Something Real
MemberGodzillaApr-23-2014 5:55 PMSomething Real
MemberGodzillaApr-23-2014 5:56 PMKage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 5:57 PM@SOMETHING REAL - Will do my friend :)
gtbetta35
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 6:03 PMNo, I read the whole post. Gareth has said time and time again that Godzilla is like an earthquake, a volcano eruption, a storm, a hurricane- a force of nature. Now, please tell me, do any of those things seek to avenge anything? And they DID seek eachother out, as it is printed on the back of one of the action figures that they were ancient foes. And I think Gareth even says in an interview with Max Borenstein that Godzilla wants to spend his days unbothered before our arrogance with the MUTOs makes him wake up.
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonApr-23-2014 6:04 PMYou're welcome, Kage432! :) Keep up the discussion! Don't let goobers like Cockzilla (I feel wrong just typing that name) bring down a perfectly valid hypothesis. Part of the fun of being pumped for a movie is speculating on areas where the answers remain a mystery. Bring it on!
"Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science Fiction is the improbable made possible." -Rod Serling
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonApr-23-2014 6:06 PMYou're welcome, Kage432! :) Keep up the discussion! Don't let goobers like Cockzilla (I feel wrong just typing that name) bring down a perfectly valid hypothesis. Part of the fun of being pumped for a movie is speculating on areas where the answers remain a mystery. Bring it on!
"Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science Fiction is the improbable made possible." -Rod Serling
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonApr-23-2014 6:07 PMYou're welcome, Kage432! :) Keep up the discussion! Don't let goobers like Cockzilla (I feel wrong just typing that name) bring down a perfectly valid hypothesis. Part of the fun of being pumped for a movie is speculating on areas where the answers remain a mystery. Bring it on!
"Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science Fiction is the improbable made possible." -Rod Serling
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonApr-23-2014 6:07 PMYou're welcome, Kage432! :) Keep up the discussion! Don't let goobers like Cockzilla (I feel wrong just typing that name) bring down a perfectly valid hypothesis. Part of the fun of being pumped for a movie is speculating on areas where the answers remain a mystery. Bring it on!
"Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science Fiction is the improbable made possible." -Rod Serling
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonApr-23-2014 6:07 PMYou're welcome, Kage432! :) Keep up the discussion! Don't let goobers like Cockzilla (I feel wrong just typing that name) bring down a perfectly valid hypothesis. Part of the fun of being pumped for a movie is speculating on areas where the answers remain a mystery. Bring it on!
"Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science Fiction is the improbable made possible." -Rod Serling
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonApr-23-2014 6:07 PMYou're welcome, Kage432! :) Keep up the discussion! Don't let goobers like Cockzilla (I feel wrong just typing that name) bring down a perfectly valid hypothesis. Part of the fun of being pumped for a movie is speculating on areas where the answers remain a mystery. Bring it on!
"Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science Fiction is the improbable made possible." -Rod Serling
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonApr-23-2014 6:13 PMBummer, my first multiple post oopsie. :P
"Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science Fiction is the improbable made possible." -Rod Serling
Moses
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 6:15 PMTo be honest, I'm going to have to say that it's just natural instinct for Godzilla to have hatred for MUTOs.
Although it would be interesting if he was trying to avenge passed relatives, I really don't see it happening.
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 6:19 PM@GTBETTA35 - Well for starters allow me to address the points you made that are wrong. First of all, Gareth did say Godzilla is a force of nature, he did, but comparing him to an earthquake, or a volcano is nothing more than hyperbole. Do earthquakes walk? Do volcanoes have children? Can a tsunami bleed? Of course not. Secondly, being rivals or foes in no way suggests that you constantly hunt each other to the edge of extinction. The actual definition of foe is simpy an opponent or enemy, that is all, everything that happens within that relationship is not tethered to the title. It doesn't mean they are always looking to find each other and end things, show me on the box where it says that they do and I'll admit to being wrong. If you cannot provide a source with proof then there is nothing further to discuss on the matter. And as for Godzilla wanting to be left alone, doesn't that better serve to conflict with your earlier statement about them actively hunting each other?
Kage432
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-23-2014 6:35 PM@DANZILLA93 - Don't worry, It got me once or twice as well :)