Debate Week season 4 finale! Godzilla (2014 vs Godzilla (1992)

When it comes to melee, LegendaryGoji has him beat. He's bigger, and more aggressive in physical combat. He'll use his mass more effectively against Heisei if it comes to CQC. However, if at range, then Heisei Goji can down LegendaryGoji from a distance. Really, it comes down to who can down the other fastest before the other can make use of their effective range. Overall though?

I'd say LegendaryGoji has this. This Heisei Goji doesn't yet have the devastating Spiral Ray, so LegendaryGoji could whether it long enough to get in close and really do some damage.

Thank God that's over with....Sheesh!!

Now this is a tough one, legndary has like thegman said, has the close range with him, then again, rado could also do some damage a close range, and he has the nucluer pulse, and his longe range seems better the legendaty, but again we dont know if it could do better than what we saw. So am gonna say a tie, they could just kill each other and both die, rado could win, or legendary could win, but am puting my money on rado, just because he could spam his breath attack on legendary. but then again, close range is questionable on who would win.

'92. It's still the Heisei Godzilla, the same creature from 84-95. He may not have the same abilities from 93-95, but his sheer power alone is enough to take '14 out.

Even though LegendaryGoji is my favorite Godzilla (next to the original), I'm gonna have to go with BatoGoji. 

BatoGoji swam underground in magma, took many hits without flinching, and likes to spam his Atomic Breath. At close range he has that pulse he emits. 

Although LegendaryGoji is smarter, and it would be a close match, he'd lose. 

^{sorry, LegendaryGoji!}

Batogoji wins, Legendary Goji is suposed to be very old and he looks much weaker than any heisei Godzilla

Pretty much what gman, jrr, and danielle said. Sorry legendary goji.

Legendary Goji is bigger but that's about all he has going for him. Batogoji is pretty much an upgrade in every other category.

BatoGoji would win a good figh against the new Godzilla. LegendaryGoji seems to use his Atomic Breath at a last-resort move, and I've noticed some of the older Godzillas use the Atomic Breath a lot. Even though LegendaryGoji has size, (possibly) intelligence, and quick-thinking oh his side, BatoGoji's durability and attacks would defeat LegendaryGoji.

Sorry but g 92

92 is slow and wobbly. Legendary is a brawler. Don't see how you guys made this a one sided fight. 92 has the upper hand in the atomic breath but that's about it. Legendary will just keep biting and tossing him around.

And if you noticed, legendary grabbed the female muto's neck in the movie when they first started fighting. Imagine if he did that to 92. He could just lay him on the ground and beat the crap out of him. If a nuke couldn't harm legendary then I doubt the 92 pulse attack would phase him at all.

Dannyblazor you seem you forget heisei Godzilla is extremely physically strong too. He's hurled monsters heavier than the legendary Godzilla away without a problem. Lengendary Godzilla was knocked down and beaten on simply by the mutos, he also collapsed after a building fell on him only having the strength to get back up an suppress the female, who was distracted, long enough to kill her then collapsed again for hours. 

There seems to be this assumption the Lengendary Godzilla who had trouble with two smaller monsters is this great brawler. Heisei Godzilla has shown in his fights he's just as capable close up as far away. Throwing a 150,000 ton MechaGodzilla II(60,000 more tons than what Legendary weighs) battling Biollante who had vines able to pierce his skin. The fact is heisei Godzilla is a monster close range fighter too there was just no need to do it when he beam was all around more convenient. 

Legendary was double teamed and was pounded for minutes straight. And continued fighting. When heisi gets knocked down, it's hard for him to get on two feet again due to his figure. And he's been knocked down numerous times. And every monster that heisi fought, that couldn't fly, we're slow. Very slow. Legendary even when walking is faster than every monster on the list. And we've only gotten a taste of what he can really do. Wait for the sequel where he goes up against ghidorah

I think speed matters to a lot of these opponents when their sheer power could out-class the Legendary Godzilla. I mean why would SpaceGodzilla both when it can just pick him up with his telekenisis  and throw him into a building-- Which tend to tire him out pretty easily.

It would be close, but the only way Goji14 is taking down Goji90's is if he punctures his sacral brain... and unless he figures out how to fashion his tail into a crude spear, thats not happening...

Sorry Goji14, but you loose... JUST BARELY, but you loose. :(

Poor guy...

Okay? Does 92 have telekinesis? No, all he has that can hurt legendary from a distance is his atomic breath. Even though it's stronger than legendary's, it wouldn't kill him. If legendary gets close it's over for 92. He's slower and doesn't have the articulation to counter attacks from legendary. 

You don't need telekenesis when you have the strength to physically pick him up and throw him which heisei does. Like I said he threw, that's right picked him up off the ground and threw Mechag. He could do that same with Legendary if he ever got close. What about Legendary's fighting style requires articulation? He's not the black belt Godzilla final wars or showa was. He just charged at the mutos and overpowered them. Not much to it.

Each time heisi threw his enemy, the enemy was either wounded or not functional. In this case, mecha g was not functional. Legendary does use articulation. Examples would be: knee'ing the female MUTO, quickly grabbing the enemy, opening the mouth, etc. And he excels at ramming/bulldozing the enemy. Imagine legendary running and ramming heisi head first. From the front I don't think it would knock him over due to his posture and the tail behind him. From the sides and back, heisi will be out amd unable to get up and legendary can stomp on his face numerous times (godzilla smash 3).

You seem to ignore the fact that he has the sheer strength required to pick up something that heavy, and Mechag was functional, it has still standing and they switched to backup power. Grabbing a distracted enemy and opening it's mouth doesn't really say much. Would there be humans distracting heisei Godzilla like they were the mutos since that's the only way heisei wouldn't be facing Legendary Godzilla. What if heisei's atomic breath knocks legendary down? He doesn't get up any faster than heisei does, only difference is that heisei has super healing when he gets knocked down. Like I said you can't ram a monster that is stronger than you you'll just get tossed back, and he's not so fast he could ram heisei before he could react. As I said he dealt with Rodan and Ghidorah who outflew jets so if he could react to their movements there's no chance legendary Godzilla would outmanuever him.

So if Legendary Godzilla gets knocked down by simply muto claws the barrage of shots he's get from heisei's atomic breath would have him on his back before he knew what hit him.

Legendary Goji shook the 480,000 ton Golden Gate Bridge with one hand, just easily pushed around the Female and immobilized her with his jaws. as well as survived the Permian Meteor landing on him perfectly fine. I'd say that makes his strength greater than what people normally think. As well, the radiation breath of Heisei Goji, though would possibly damage Legendary Goji, would also feed him due to being radiation based.

The damage may somewhat outstrip the radiation content, but it's enough of a ratio to prevent it from completely downing Legendary Goji. As well, the bulk of Legendary Goji is enough that even despite how powerful Heisei Goji is, Legendary Goji could just as easily stand up to that power, being able to push him around more easily than the Female due to his 60,000 ton mass compared to her 75,000 ton mass, all considered unless he can manage to push back in time.

Thus, a physical brawl is a close deal, though Legendary's slightly enhanced mobility and larger size means he'll be able to top Heisei Goji. Then the breaths. The radiation content of Heisei's means that he won't be doing as much damage as he'd like to to the radiation-eating Legendary.Then what happens when one of them goes down? Well, that's an interesting question.

The Heisei Goji, due to the suit limitations, is very immobile on the ground. Legendary isn't much better, but he has better footing due to more articulate limbs. If Heisei is grounded, Legendary can stomp him into submission. If Legendary is grounded, Heisei will blast him into submission. This fight is closer than many think. I see it going either way, depending on who hits who first.

I've heard sheer power/strength at least 3 times in this debate. Who's to say legendary doesn't have sheer power either? And the damages dealt to legendary were physical, he was impaled by the Mutos claws countless times. There have been times where Heisi's hide was impaled as if it were butter. And like you said, they were switching to back up power, in other words it had no way to help itself as Heisi threw mecha g. And i don't think heisi would still be standing after a 90,000 ton monster rams him. The amount of force would just topple him, it would lift him off his feet, knocking him back a couple hundred meters. And he dealt with ghidorah in the air with his atomic breath, on the ground ghidorah only had it's heads to counter, no arms. And legendary didn't get knocked down by claws, he was attacked from behind by the male and then rammed by the female

Wouldn't*

Who's to say legendary doesn't have sheer power either?

The problem is if we haven't seen it then there's no proof. You can't bring speculation into a sizing up argument when we haven't actually scene it ourselves. The point is moot.

Tanked a nuke, walked through the Golden Gate Bridge, brought forth a tsunami, fought 2 enemies at once, had a giant building fall on him. Went through all that and went back to the sea.

Nuff said

Yay 20 posts my goal! Thank you all so much, here is to season 5!

Don't forget moved the bridge singlehandedly and had a giant meteor several kilometers across land right on him and be fine C:

DannyBlazor,
None of which the Heisei Godzilla hadn't already done or more of before.

The argument, "Who's to say the Legendary Godzilla doesn't have sheer power either?" is like me saying, "How do we know Heisei isn't more powerful than we've seen on screen." You can't prove either because we never saw it. Stick to what we saw.

Gman123,
That's only if you consider the meteor cannon. Which unless I'm willing to consider the countless other comic tie-ins cannon that eventuall contradicted themselves, I do not. Therefor I do not recognize the meteor goofiness.

Ah, but it's an official comic tie-in. Those others? Not really pertaining to this Heisei Goji anyways, and mainly non-canon officially. It's the absolute best feat we have for Legendary Goji, and, going by DB ruling, is allowed if it's the same character. Being a a recognized tie-in using the same trademarked character, unless proven non-canon otherwise by official sources at a later date conclusively, can be used as a part of the analysis of the Legendary Godzilla's feats.

Besides that, Legendary Goji already has enormous strength and durability feats that match up or possibly surpass that of Heisei Goji. Legendary could easily push Heisei around if he can grapple with Heisei quickly enough before the 90s Goji pushes back, which he can given his slightly higher relative speed.

^If you want to go by comic tie-ins, then you'll have to agree with the tie-ins during the Showa series that automatically make the Showa Godzilla the most powerful incarnation and Gigan's real name Borodan. So, if you say so.

If it's not seen on screen it's not cannon. Official tie-in, does not equal canon. It means it's an official product. The Godzilla toy unlatches the top of its head from its body to fire the atomic ray and it's an offical tie-in as well. So I guess Godzilla unlatching his top jaw in a jovial fashion is now canonical as well.