To Gareth Edwards: The Direction Style of Godzilla 2

And some other nitpickings: While it's true past Godzilla films has the amount of screen time you listed, you gotta admit they looked really darn clear. Godzilla was never covered by all other elements that much. Take the Megaguirus movie, he was in broad daylight, on an island, shooting atomic breath at those pesky mini Megaguirus.

The fight between him and Zilla in Final Wars, or his silhoette when the female character was on her bike recording him in GMK (2001), the scenes with him in Vs Destroyah are also very clear. The Battle for Earth one with Mothra and Batra showcases him clearly in the dark as well.

In space Godzilla and mechagodzilla, again he looked really clear. So even if it's that amount of screen time, you feel content. You don't feel like you could have had more, like in the 2014.

Credit is where credits due: I'm content seeing him revealed at the airport, the bridge, the Atomic Breaths, the smack down with the Female MUTO. I feel like I want more at: right after the airport stare down, after the bite then they shut the doors, at the shadows of Godzilla right after the Halo drop, at the tail waving after he enters Honohulu.

You know GG when you make up numbers it makes anything you say less credible. The final fight scene in Godzilla vs Spacegodzilla is almost 30 minutes long and you expect me to believe that he only appears in it for under 10 minutes since prior to that he had scenes rampaging through the city and fighting Spacegodzilla on Birth island? Yeah I don't know where you're getting what are apparently at least semi made up numbers of Godzilla screen time but if you don't know them don't list them, as I said it just makes you less credible.

As for Gareth's choice it worked for this movie semi well. It was the introduction the character needed to be built up and have suspence behind him, but that being said it was widely disliked by the general audience. Almost every review addressed it as a negative and no matter what Gareth may want to do, when you have a concensus that something is bad and hurt the film from a general audience, who I know most of you don't know this but, are more important than the small amount of g fans that make up box office receipts chances are it will be changed.

IMO i'm fine with him keeping his filming style. Through the angles he chose he was able to show the size of the monsters in a way that wasn't achievable with suitmation.

As for the teasing, I think for GODZILLA it should stop. He's no longer a mystery, the world has seen him. No reason to hide it. I'm totally fine if Rodan, Mothra, and King Ghidorah get little screen time and teases.

Cut outs were a fun way to poke at the audiences expectations but for the sequel it should be removed.

Adding a few more minutes of screen time wouldn't be bad either, or at least spread it out evenly throughout the film. The first film had most of it at the end of the film.

Durpoo- its actually 14 minutes for Spacegodzilla, the final scene is 30 minutes long, but that takes up the time for, Moguera to fight, Spacegodzilla to do things while fighting Moguera and Godzilla to appear after every other scene, remember Godzilla is in every shot of the final battles.

Durpoo also im not going to really engage you since we have fought many time about Godzilla 2014, i know your personallity and you will never agree so.

The funny thing here is that GG is trying to defend G 14 to Godzilla fans. WE ARE ALL FANS! Who would come to this site as a casual viewer of Godzilla movies? Look, we all wanted to LOVE this film. After the dissapointment that was G98(for me,) you could say I waited 35 years for this movie. That's a long time! Do you think I just decided to be underwhelmed by this movie so I could argue with some Micheal Bay obsessed comments poster on a fan site? I put a lot of hope in this movie and so did a lot of others, as seen by many comments above. While there where things worth liking, it has many weaknesses to both hardcore fans and the general audience. So much so that it's the argument that is more indestructable than Godzilla himself! The oxygen destroyer could not kill this argument.

But you want to know what GG? I'm glad you loved it. At least someone did.

Wow Pike...So now your saying no one loved the movie? a Class A narcisist so the 73% on rotten tomatoes is nothing. Its overall good rating from audience is nothing, the the fact that most people on this site like it! That right there has ended are arguement, you are a dope.

The thing is....... we're all arguing points that are either deal-breakers or not between fans and general audiences. What some might consider a fatal flaw, others did not. I personally think this film is better than most previous ones by sheer virtue of its production value and direction, especially when compared to late Showa, Heisei, and Millenium films.

Story-wise and character-wise in comparison to previous films for me? About equal or lesser, and a bit better, respectively. However, I respect that others think differently. This film's flaws easily are less noticeable than in previous Godzilla flicks to me, and I'm proud to say I might be in the minority C:

Well at the end of the day, what PIKE said.

I'm sorry I couldn't keep my cool. I pretty much lost it when I'm told I'm not a true Godzilla fan even after all my efforts to get whatever I can of the movie or to reach this forum and actually posted something I'm serious about.

So...no hard feelings ?

Umi Kun its fine, im just chocked at the blatan disrespect people have for this rletively good film.

OK just to make sure I'll give you the time frame of godzilla rising up from the sea at birth island, all the way to when he is going back into it

rises up roughtly 22.42

leave for japan: 41.55

That's a 19 minute difference, but just to give you the benefit of the doubt i'll start the timer when he confronts spacegodzilla at 38.02.

So that's almost a 4 minute time span right there and I'm not counting what is literally 2 minutes of watching his leave the water and walk onto the beach. Then there are the scenes he's in with yuki trying to shoot him and him going through the island, not to mention him destroying a city on his way to Fukuoka and running into MOGUERA. This of course all happens before that 30 minute fight even takes place.

 This isn't about agreeing this is about pointing out you're using made up stats. If you got them from something give me the link as I just scrolled through the movie and there's no way you're 14 minute time frame(which was 12 before I pointed out that was in no way correct so you added 2 more.)

Durpoo- If you count him walking form the city to the ocean as actual screen time then fine, he is in the film for 18 minutes. I dont know what your problem is, whenever we have an arguement you find the most obscure things and use them to spite me, i have a stopwatch and i just went through all the Heisei films screen time.

Here is the outcome.

The Return of Godzilla- 9:20

Godzilla vs Biollante- 8:05

Godzilla vs King ghidorah- 7:12

Godzilla vs MechaG2- 14:25

Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla- 17:48

Godzilla vs destoroyah- 15:48

Most of these screen time jumps is from him just walking onto land or leaving, only 8 mintues or lower is the actual fight.

In Godzilla 2014 atleast the majority of his screen time is him actually doing things.

Guys, why do we continue to do this stuff? I shake my head everytime i see these things, it really is saddening.

GG, I appreciate your thoughts on Godzilla 2014. I liked it for what it was but with the dvd and blu-ray release i couldn't see the best parts of the movie at all.

@Everyone else,

Please lets all try to get along. Thank you.

Pike, great to see you again buddy. :)

^ This.

It seems everyone forgets that throughout the whole movie the Mutos are usually in the scenes, and they are by FAR the one of the most interesting monsters I've ever watched in a kaiju movie. Everyone seems to forget that they exist though because all they wanted to see was Godzilla Godzilla Godzilla Godzilla. I also think that a lot of the negativity comes from a bandwagon state of mind, or a very pessimistic and analytical state of mind. If you watch a movie analytically, of course you're not going to enjoy it. That's your fault. 

@the-true-barman-yes, some of us expected to see more Godzilla. After all,the movie is called Godzilla. The MUTOS where okay,and better than some Toho monsters, but for me, didn't carry the film. We get some nice shots, but they just didn't excite me. Perhaps if they nixed the whole EMP thing, and we got a nice military battle,I would have dug it more. And I don't get your whole being analytics thing. Are we supposed to enjoy whatever is put in front of us because having fun is more important than having an opinion? Man,that would make life more easy....I guess if there is a movie you've seen that you didn't like, you ought give it another shot. Perhaps you're just being too analytic after all. 

And hello Big Bad Ben! Yeah, I don't hang around too often anymore. I wanted to see people's take on the blue-ray. Now I remember why I left. I leave the boards to people like GG. They know enough for all of us.....

^I get what y'all are saying, but you gotta understand: the reason for all the cutaways was because it only had a $160 mil budget which, while not exactly cheap, by any stretch, isn't enough for them to just throw money at the screen especially with the extensive care put into the CGI for the monsters, every second they were on screen was money eating away at the production budget. The sequel I surmise will have a bigger budget (Cap 2 got a $40 mil budget increase from the first Captain America film, and it made a lot less than this, so yeah, a bigger budget is definitely in the cards for Godzilla 2), so they won't have to do that as much. Relax.

Yeah, they could've maybe fit a few more minutes of Godzilla into the first movie if they wanted to, but "a few extra minutes" wouldn't be changing anyone's mind, let's be honest.