Debate Week season 4 finale! Godzilla (2014 vs Godzilla (1992)

^But it seems to me that most here are just wanting to say that heisei godzilla is not that physically strong at all.

You are correct about matching up against each other in terms of physical strength, but the point is, legendary goji does not have the same super healing ability as the heisei godzilla, which would wear legendary goji out very quickly.

Never said that Godzilla hasnt used biting/clawing etc. We both never once said that Heisi was weak. If anything, you're making it seem as if legendary has no strength at all. Legendary tops in speed, smarts. With endurance, heisi comes on top by a small margin. Atomic breath, heisi wins again but it wouldn't be enough to down legendary. With strength, heisi wins but again by a small margin. Heisi's arms may have a lot more muscle but the reach is smaller and won't benefit him one bit. When using force, speed goes into that equation. Legendarys speed is much greater and his tail slam knocked out and killed the Male MUTO. And about the Muto's, when legendary was down on the ground, both were stabbing him, and it was his left side. The female got inot the action too but again, no marks. 

And again about the healing, Heisi's isn't instint. And legendary most likely has a healing ability as well and there's proof that I've given.

Well until i see legendary pick up king ghidorah over his head, then i will say no i am not seeing that much as far as strength goes. Heisei godzilla has faced far bigger and far stronger enemies than what the muto's combined are. Biollante alone would kill the muto's.

Now i like legendary goji don't get me wrong, but the fact is, Toho has stated that heisie godzilla is still by far the strongest godzilla incarnation to date.

Well, Legendary Goji can move the Golden Gate Bridge singlehandedly, which is heavier than any single enemy faced by Heisei Goji. So, that at least puts Legendary Goji's strength somewhere slightly above or below Heisei Goji's strength. That, and he can effortlessly push around the Female, whom is larger in mass than Heisei Goji.

Then you have to remember that most of Heisei Goji's enemies haven't been downed easily by physical force, or even physically engaged for that matter, mostly special battles. The MUTOs may not be able to deal with beam-spammers that well, but their aggressive nature and speed means they could, together, take on a variety of those foes, and even the Heisei Godzilla himself, were it not for his special abilities and strength.

So, really, it all depends on who can knock down who onto the ground first. Once one of them is down, they're finished. Heisei Goji grounded will be stomped in by Legendary Goji, and Legendary grounded by Heisei will be stomped and blasted.

Godzilla ('91)

Height: 100 meters
Mass: 60,000 tons

Powers/Weapons: Atomic Ray; super regenerative power; able to unleash a Spiral Fire ray from his mouth after absorbing Rodan's life force; Nuclear Pulse; can absorb radiation; can conduct energy through its touch

Godzilla

Height: 108 meters
Mass: 81,500 tons

Powers/Weapons: Atomic ray

First Appearance: Godzilla (2014)

Hey, no spiral ray shenanigans! That was in '93!

legendary effortlessly tossed around the female muto who's mass is most likely around 60 tons. So i'm pretty sure he can lay heisi on the ground with ease.

And again with throwing opponents. Heisi's arms are shorter than legendarys. Legendarys reflexes are faster as well.

70 posts, wow this is a Debate Week national moment.

The fact it was named Operation: Lucky Dragon in the movies before the bomb even went off adds so much credence that this was not the castle bravo nuke since there was no way they'd knowingly name an operation after a tragic incident that happened, and here's the kicker; before the incident happened. That fact it was named Lucky Dragon is just a nod to the the bomb and tale that inspired the original it does not mean that that was the bomb that went off. The novel isn't the movie, I don't consider it or the prequel comics cannon especially when, I have and anyone who watched the movie has undesputed proof that no megaton bomb was used on Godzilla according to the movie, which is the source I'm using while judging this illiteration. It's clear this is a different world, and like I said things don't have to correlate with real world events. A bomb went off in this universe March 1, 1954, it was a kiloton nuke used to kill a giant monster. Using an extremely iconic nuclear blast from the 50s as for visuals doesn't add much to the point.

As for Godzilla's breath, we know it melts synthetic diamond after a few shots, and we know it has enough kinetic energy to launch Rodan backwards colliding with and destroying half the mountain he was hit into. It has also knocked bigger monsters off balance even if it appeared not to hurt them. 

There seems to be this idea the Female Muto has more mass than heisei, however she's 9 meters shorter and as far as I've seen has no official weight with any stats having an (estimated) next to weight they give.

True legendary has more weight and is slightly bigger, but MechaGodzilla,, Ghidorah, Destoroyah, Biollante, and SpaceGodzilla all had both more height and weight than heisei and that never seemed to change the equation. Having maybe a few meters in arm length an questionably faster reflexes doesn't overcome the less physical strength, weaker atomic breath, and lack of a healing factor. 

If Legendary tried to push around heisei chances are to do it in the most effective way his elbows wouldn't be locked and his hands extended. So due to this there's a really good chance that heisei's arms could reach him is some way so even if their strength is close which I don't agree with but I'll humor the argument, the longer arm range doesn't really factor in when its that little of a difference unless legendary Goji is going to step up slap him and quickly step pack and repeat that process. If legendary likes to brawl that's fine because he doesn't outclass heisei in this category so especially hard that he could win off it especially without any healing. They'd just brawl until Legendary got tired out from buildings falling onto them due to the obvious destructive force of their fight and collapse. To bad heisei doesn't really collapse from exhaustion.

Ever watched MMA? Probably not but reach means a lot in a fight. And I've given examples to how legendary has a healing factor. 

^Legendary and WB have not confirmed a healing factor. That means as of now, G14 is tough like showa godzilla.

Are we really comparing MMA that has years of specialized training to what monsters do? MMA has a lot of punches and they have the ability to do a lot of damage from punches. Chances are legendary isn't going to start boxing heisei. When grappling in the most basic form, which is what monsters would do, the arm length wouldn't really come into this. 

As BBB pointed out there is no confirmed healing on top of the fact, as I pointed out scars covered by dirt would be harder to spot on the dark rough skin skin Legendary has. 

75 posts?!? I must be dreaming!!

^Must be nice, I wish i could reach that on the first graphic novel i posted. :/

heisei g. he can take a beating and continue on. legendary is can take some hits too, but he did have to rest for a while after the fight. im pretty sure the swarming destroyahs put up more of a fight than the mutos. 

We are so close to 80!

Season 5 is coming.