how to include Gigan into the monsterverse

Awe come on! haha, That's like half the ones I would love to see!

Biollante is a great one. So far there is a female monster in the first 2 Godzilla movies. The female MUTO and Mothra in 2019. So it would be neat to see another female monster in say GvK. Or if there will be more monsterverse after 2020, maybe room for Biollante.

I always thought it would be cool to see Ebirah in GvK. In K:SI we see Skull Island surrounded by a thick storm. It would be neat if Ebirah or a group of Ebirah's lurked in the ocean below the storm. Say if Godzilla or Kong were to try to go through the storm to get to one and other to fight they would have to go through a swarm of Ebirah's or a singular Ebirah. It might explain why Kong never was able to leave the island? 

Ah biollante, going from one of the oddest Kaiju to one of the best. I could definitely make a topic about her. She is such an interesting monster and could definitely work in the monsterverse.

ebirah would be nic as well. I do think ebirah would be more of a cameo than a main villain, but it would be a nice inclusion.

^ Well scientist messing around with animal DNA is already a thing.

True, Ebirah cant carry a film of this magnitude by himself. I was more trying to suggestion on having Ebirah in the movie as a way to show off Kongs strength without Godzilla being present or vise versa.

Depending on the plot, whether Godzilla is trying to get to Skull Island or Kong is trying to leave skull island, Ebirah would be a fun way to demonstrate to the audience a sample of Godzilla's or Kongs strength without having to fight each other yet. I think it would be great to see Kong fight Ebirah for 2 reasons.

1)Ebirah, Horror of the Deep(1966) was supposed to be a King Kong movie. Without going into too much info on why Kong wasn't in it, Godzilla shares some of his characteristics to Kong in the film and in the plot. One example is the scene where he meets Daiyo and is very protective of her. As we all know Godzilla has never really went out of his way to do such a thing. But Kong is a sucker for the ladies. Plus the fact that he is sleeping in a cave rather than underwater. Godzilla does seem out of place in that scene. Why or how does Godzilla want to sleep in a cave when he has an entire ocean to slumber in? Kong loves caves and would make sense that Kong would be sleeping in cave. One can argue the way the characters woke him up with lightening? Something that was established back in KKvG that Kong gains strength from? 

I bring this up only because it was supposed to be King Kong fighting Ebirah and dismantling the Red Bamboo(which by the way have a similar theme of abducting native people from Infant Island, their home, and making them perform tasks to enrich the terrorist organization? Something Kong is familiar with). So seeing King Kong fight Ebirah now that Kong is like 300 sum feet tall would look awesome and a wink to fans who might get the reference.

2) It would explain why Kong never wanted to leave Skull Island. If there where giant sea monsters in the ocean under a blanket of tropical storms, that would make sense as to why all those ships always wrecked as well. Maybe Kong was always trapped on the island. But never has a Kong reached its full maturity and size thanks to Kong making the skull crawlers extinct. Allowing Kong to grow and grow. Then reaching his peak size, he can confront the Ebirah surrounding the island and without Godzilla even being present in the scene, we would see Kong's new strength. It would be a slightly brief cameo only to show the audience how strong Kong has become over the past 4 decades. To get the audience pumped before we even see the main event.

They probably don’t even need to by the rights to ebirah as well. It can always be just a giant lobster and fans can make it be whatever they want it to be. I had this exact thing with skull island where I thought the giant spider in the movie was kumomga. When I looked it up it ended up not being him but still.

it would be way cooler though if it was the real ebirah instead of something similar.

K:SI still had that octopus in the lake scene where Kong was nursing his wounds and a giant octopus try and attack him and Kong just STOMPED it out and then ate the octopus! 

If that's not a call back to KKvG, I don't know what is. I even think the staff and crew ate that octopus after the take! Brutal! I never ate a giant monster movie star before! But I would give it a try. Just to say I did that.

But my point is that your right on the rights to an Ebirah cameo. Any giant crustacean fighting Kong would satisfy any fan I'm sure.  

Don't know if I said it on another forum, but to sum it up, Gigan's origin in Final Wars seems more plausible (believable) than using the male MUTO's body to become him.

But King Ghidorah will be having a similar origin in G:KOTM. He has been frozen under the ground, according to Monarchs timeline.

To have Gigan have the same thing happen wont seem original or authentic enough in my opinion. To give Gigan an origin story that already is close to its source material from the Showa series would be more believable IF we are including aliens. Gigan is a cyborg from some strange space dinosaur of some kind turned into the monster we know today. To see Gigan in this monsterverse as a revitalized MUTO would bring a closure to the MUTO saga.

To simply reuse an orgin story from a poorly thought out Godzilla movie from the early millennium would seem like a cop out if Gigan would to return.

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Funny you mention what you are saying about King Ghidorah, and yet, it makes me think they are just repeating how he (King Ghidorah) got revealed in GMK.

Buts its already set up that King Ghidorah is frozen out there underground (far according to the Monarch Timeline). To have another monster, this time with cyborg characteristics, under the ground again somewhere else would cause more plot holes and questions of its origins. 

I agree with you MinecraftDinoKaiju  that the whole monster under the ground idea is over done in this movie genre. I just think they can be a little more creative IF they were to ever introduce Gigan into the monsterverse.

@riggzamortis86 Do you mean like Monster X's first appearance in Final Wars? (Remember the meteor?)

^No. I just want more diversified origins and first appearances in the Monster Verse. Im saying that since we have The MUTO's coming from a skeletal monster from under the ground, the skull crawlers coming from under the ground, and now King Ghidorah(although his origin may or may not come from space and simply trapped underground for millions of years) emerging from under the ground in this Monsterverse, it seems like Legendary has the same trope following in the appearances of the monsters in these films. That the monsters all seem to come from under the ground. I would like to see a little more creativity in this universe of monsters. Toho had so many monsters that most of them had a pretty cool way to introduce the monster.  

To feature Gigan coming up from some kind or geological dig or something like simply emerging from under the ground would be to simple since all the other monsters seem to have a similar appearance or origin. Since Gigan is a cyborg, Legendary would have to explain the technology behind such a monster. Why or how is it a cyborg monster, and why is coming from underneath the surface (had to change it up there)?

Now Im just going with the forum topic here. Having Gigan become a Muto monster cyborg made with alien technology does make a Godzilla fans mouth water. There are a million other ways to introduce this character, but I like this one a lot hence why Im sticking with it soo much. Its creative and reconnects the first film and makes the first film relevant again after 6 years or more. It gives us a sight of Gigan that we have never seen before. Gigan always just shows up to f### shit up but we never know what Gigan was before he became a cyborg monster.

Actually, you have a good point. I feel like there should be a Gigan origin movie.

^I wouldnt mind that. If the Monsterverse takes anything from the marvel universe, I would love to see something like that either in a movie or show.

I think this is a good way to introduce Gigan into the Monster-verse. Good job.

Gigan movie would not work. it wouldn't even make much money.

Unless they added a new monster to fight him in order to injure or kill him so that he can become a cyborg.

even though I would love to see a modern Gigan solo movie, I don't think it would work. I don't think it works because it would most likely be a giant setup movie. I feel that a movie like this would just be a part 1 of a Godzilla movie with Gigan as the villain in part 2. Gigan is so simple to explain, that I could not imagine an entire movie with him as the main monster.

this especially doesn't work in the monsterverse, seeing as legendary has to put a lot of money in such a movie which they can't just throw out of the window. why not just make a Godzilla movie with Gigan as the villain. there are many other monsters that can have a successful solo movie in the monsterverse that wouldn't be a just a setup. for example Rodan, King Ghidorah (depends on his origin in 2019) and Mothra. a monster that I would love to see get a solo movie is king caesar (on which I am writing a forum for right now). I do think Gigan would be in a "destroy all monsters" type movie with Gigan as one of the final monsters of the series (with my muto Gigan theory maybe?).

I would love to see someone make a fanfiction for a Gigan solo movie. I am interested to see what people can come up with.

This is my idea for what a Solo Gigan film in the monsterverse could be like: Stock footage from when Godzilla killed the Male Muto plays. Cut to 10 years later where it shows Monarch examining the body. Monarch finds out by listening to its heartbeat that the Muto is still alive, but barely and is comatose. Monarch starts making some modifications to turn it into an anti kaiju weapon. they code name the project "Project: Gigan." cut to 5 years later and they have pretty much finished modifying the Muto. A new kaiju emerges from Loch ness known as Titanosaurus. Monarch sees this as an opportunity to test their new weapon. They bring Gigan to the area and the two monsters battle it out. but something happens during the fight... Titanosaurus breaks the device Monarch used to control Gigan and he goes haywire. he fires a laser beam at Titanosaurus and lets out a blood curdling roar.  Gigan cuts Titanosaurus' head off with his Claw and starts rampaging through Ireland. He cuts a building in half and fires his laser beam at another. Monarch end up deciding that they need to fight fire with fire and start working on a super weapon to destroy him. They dub this weapon "the Oxygen Destroyer" and plan to lure Gigan to sea faraway and detonate it. they end up luring him by having the navy provoke him. the plan works and Gigan ends up following the ships only to destroy nearly all of them. the last ship is barely dodging Gigan's laser beam or his hook hands until finally they lure him far enough away and detonate the Bomb decaying all life currently in close proximity into skeletons. Gigan was finally killed, but at the cost of nearly half a city, several military ships, and millions of lifeforms in the ocean depths. Destroyah also makes an appearance after the end credits.

Sounds like a good movie. Just don't see Titanosaurus appearing in the Monsterverse is all.