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Godzilla's 2014 Size Discussion

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InstinctiveGigan

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPOct-16-2013 4:10 AMAs some of you may know, Gareth Edwards has revealed that the new Godzilla will be taller than any other version before him. Here's a direct quote: "We’re going to make the tallest Godzilla ever by far. We started doing bits of animation but if he was too tall – you’d see him straight away so we had to make him smaller. What we settled on he’s just taller than any other one so far. But you have to be able to hide him." - Gareth Edwards Now with that being said, I doubt Gareth means a few feet or yards, if Godzilla is going to be at his tallest it WILL be obvious. Gareth wouldn't make such a claim if he wasn't sure it was crystal clear. It only takes one Godzilla nerd buzzkill to do his research and call BS on it, I'm sure Gareth is also aware of this. In addition, Gareth has been talking with Toho, so this further confirms the big G's height difference since Toho will know for sure. The only question is, how tall is that exactly? The tallest Godzilla was the 1991-1995 version who was nearly 330 ft tall. Gareth goes on to say that Godzilla may be taller, but he is still hidden in the buildings. That being said I think his height could range from 400ft - 500ft. It would definitely be a noticable height difference while still keeping him hidden within the city's taller buildings. What do you guys think?
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60 Responses to Godzilla's 2014 Size Discussion

TheGMan123

TitanosaurusMember729 XPOct-16-2013 6:56 AMGiven the height of previous incarnations of Godzilla and his own enemies,I'd say something around 120m-140 meters is in order. I don't like the imperial system since it seems so jumbled up to me,so I'm sticking with those measurement scales. But either way,he should be noticeable from a distance,seem like a mountain to a small town,and also be able to sneak (weird word to use?) around the highest skyscrapers in the biggest cities.

BCrockett94

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPOct-16-2013 10:16 AMI was about to post something just like this last night, but I timed out or something. Anyways, 120-150 m is what many people speculate, having seen the official and teaser trailers at SDCC. So, yeah, somewhere between roughly 400 to 500 ft tall is the standing range speculated.

RR44

BaragonMember339 XPJan-23-2014 9:03 PMI can't say it enough. He is between 500 and 700 feet tall. That trailer shows him walking past the Bank o America building.. and yes that is a fact. and what I can tell just before the screen goes dark and switches to a different scene.. Godzilla's head is danm close to being on par with that building. Now I am not saying that he is 779 feet.. what I am saying is that he is not 350 feet tall as some have stated. Imagine if there wa a 600 foot building across the street from the 779 foot tall one.. you would see it if you were in the halo jumpers place... and as you get closer to to the top of the 779 ft building.. oh say 15 degrees.. the 600 ft building would still be in view.. but it would start to appear smaller.. this is not the case with Godzilla's head in the trailer.. it becomes more pronounced and almost lines up with the 779 ft tall building.

G-Bul

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPFeb-04-2014 5:22 AM

I agree with RR44

 

I did some comparisons using google earth and the 555 California street building and there´s no way he could look that tall if he´s only 350ft tall.

About 600ft is the perfect heiht for him, he will look like a walking mountain and there´re still enough buildings they could hide him behind.

But this point is still a bit strange to me, it´s not Godzilla-like to hide ;)

And I think they don´t need buildings to hide him, they could use smoke, mountains and the sea - so no real reason to downsize him.

leoberg124

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPFeb-10-2014 5:25 AM

I think, that Godzilla must be not smaller than 700-779 feet. 

Jazmyne

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPFeb-10-2014 5:29 AM

ive never watched a movie where they don't screw up scale ever once in a while and im sure this wont be any different. Fricken cloverfield, they couldn't decide on the monsters size.

The internet; immortalizing stupidity every day.

RR44

BaragonMember339 XPSep-23-2014 6:15 AM

after watching it on blu ray.. and seeing it in the theaters too.. the last 60 seconds of the movie reveals GODZILLA'S approximate height. And without a doubt in my mind.. after doing some intense research on the buildings near GODZILLA as he was getting ready to roar and then go for a swim... I have concluded that HE IS TALLER THAN 500 feet. and that cannot be debunked. either Hollywood lied.. or they got it wrong in the FX department.

TW_G-Fan2014

Mothra LarvaeMember0 XPSep-24-2014 9:30 PM

@RR44 - You're conclusion is entirely inaccurate and Legendary themselves have confirmed his height numerous times. Seriously, stop trying to guess that he's taller than 355 feet which is his official listed height from Legendary.

He is not 500 feet, nor is he more than 500 feet. If you haven't paid attention to Legendary's official stats and such, start doing some research because in all honesty it's just sad that you still think that he's that tall. The buildings he was walking by in the end of the movie were only around 25-30 stories, not 45-50 stories. He's not 500 feet plus. He's 355 feet.


It's a fact now, so accept it and move on.

RR44

BaragonMember339 XPSep-25-2014 11:00 AM

to the previous comment I say this... I DID DO RESEARCH.. and unless hollywood shrank the buildings in that scene for purposes yet to be known.. the buildings heights remain the same and cannot be simply ignored .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Embarcadero_Center

this building is the one featured in the last scene before godzilla goes swimming. SO.. think what YOU want.. and look at the link above.. watch the movie again and then make a call.. anyone with common sense can see this and come to a rational conclusion. either hollywood got the FX wrong or they are not telling the truth about his height. 

peace.

TheGMan123

TitanosaurusMember729 XPSep-25-2014 11:17 AM

Yeah, they definitely got the FX wrong. Example: The Golden Gate Bridge.

From where Godzilla rose out of the water, there was no way he could've stood with his upper body above the bridge. Only near the shore along the shallow bottom could he have achieved that. However, his overall height makes sense in that scene. From where he was standing in the water, if it did happen to be that shallow, he could easily show himself like he did. 355 feet makes sense, because other heights above that are pushing it as far as "tall as some buildings, taller than others, shorter than others, and still able to be hidden".

The thing is, Godzilla is much larger in mass compared to a building of a similar height, which can also give the allusion he's much taller than he actually is.

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4775 XPSep-25-2014 11:21 AMTeam Ghidorah

I'm so perplexed as to why it matters that Godzilla is even bigger than 107 meters. Why is it so important to some fans that he be even bigger than the impossible size he already is? Isn't he big enough?

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

TheGMan123

TitanosaurusMember729 XPSep-25-2014 11:26 AM

I don't get it either. Though, to be fair.......... Actually, i won't spoil it. You'll have to wait for my series down the line for that unfinished answer to be finished ;D

Huge-Ben

BaragonMember330 XPSep-25-2014 1:58 PM

Yeah i thought we were done with this whole subject.

He is 355 feet people, that is tall enough for me.

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RR44

BaragonMember339 XPSep-26-2014 9:37 AM

since this is a discussion about his size.. and for those who do want to know.. so what. thats why its called GODZILLA'S 2014 SIZE DISCUSSION. if you don't care and wish to move on from this topic.. do so.. no one is telling you to care or not to care. and its the oakland bay bridge.. not the golden gate bridge. fact.

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4775 XPSep-26-2014 9:46 AMTeam Ghidorah

^That's fine if you care, but the official stats are 107 meters. Why not just accept there are size discrepencies for creative purposes. Godzilla's size has fluctuated for 60 years, why not try to figure out his "real size" in the other films?

It sounds to me like some people here just want Godzilla to be bigger for the sake of being bigger.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

TheGMan123

TitanosaurusMember729 XPSep-26-2014 9:49 AM

That isn't our problem. Our problem is people trying to refute official statements of the size of our latest Godzilla iteration. He's 355 feet tall, no questions asked.  We're not really arguing his actual size; more along the lines of his presented size.

Sure, he may not always look like 355 feet tall, and sure, sometimes the SFX make it seem like he's bigger and/or smaller than he should be, but that's an issue with scaling in general when it comes to FX :p

 

RR44

BaragonMember339 XPSep-26-2014 10:06 AM

not true.. its not a question of me wanting him bigger.. its a question of integrity. if you tell someone that a cherry is green when in fact it is red.. whats the point ? I see what I see and then I go.. hmmm.. what ?? 355 feet?? not according to the visual on the screen. if he's bigger so be it.. but don't insult my intelligence and claim he is one height..ie 355 feet.. and then display him on the big screen as being much larger.. I have sent a message to legendary about this.. and even though I wont get a reply.. they will get the message.. I am not here to make grand claims.. only point out facts and inconsistancies. and yes.. his height does matter because toho will want it to matter.stats and info on the web can be manipulated.. and we all know how honest hollywood is.. not. I trust my eyes. I see it.. and thats that. when I was in grade school I read a book simply titled.. GODZILLA.  in it Godzilla was said to be 400 feet tall. (this book was put out there by hollywood and it came out in the mid 70's.).. of coarse he was not in the original.. but hollywood wanted him to be . so size has been at the forefront for a long time.

G. H. (Gman)

GiganAdmin4775 XPSep-26-2014 10:24 AMTeam Ghidorah

Toho? You mean the studio that yo-yo'd Godzilla's size for 50 years? A 50 meter monster who was presented to be roughly the same height as high tension towers and then in Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla they're about half his size when he transforms into a magnetic force?

Or the 100 meter Godzilla established as being double the height of high tension towers in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah and then in Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II they're suddenly his height again?

Please. Toho only wants a stat to put into hundreds of compendiums they'll make money off of for the next 60 years. If Toho cared that much their producers wouldn't have praised it up and down.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

TheGMan123

TitanosaurusMember729 XPSep-26-2014 10:41 AM

Look, RR44........ we aren't insulting you. We're just concerned you're not approaching the facts straight. This new Godzilla is 355 feet tall. That's official, just like all other Godzilla iterations and their official heights.

Does that mean SFX makers will accurately represent that all the way through? No. In fact, it's almost guaranteed that there will be discrepancies for the purposes of film presentation. Does that mean it'll always be inaccurate? No. In fact, it's almost guaranteed as well that for the most part, SFX makers will try to remain accurate if possible.

It's not like it's a big issue that's never been seen before, because it's actually a lot more prevalent in earlier films than this one, really, logically looking back on things.

Huge-Ben

BaragonMember330 XPSep-26-2014 1:42 PM

They did warn us before the movie was released that there were some bad SPFX shots that would make godzilla look twice as big though.

Other than that i am going to have to agree with Gman 1, and Gman 2.

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RR44

BaragonMember339 XPSep-28-2014 5:56 AM

OK.. I surrender to the general assembly.. and admit I could be wrong. However.. IF the FX guys got it wrong more than once in this movie.. they were real expensive mistakes and very misleading.. I would fire them and get some CGI pros in there who can get it right. I guess we have to wait until the next movie to see.

TheGMan123

TitanosaurusMember729 XPSep-28-2014 6:19 AM

Seriously? THAT harsh? Honestly, those guys are some of the better ones out there. It was probably hard enough making Godzilla look the way he did without compormising too much on how much he can "fit" into the filming. To the average moviegoer, it isn't the scale itself, but the sense of scale. We only notice because we look back from a different perspective given time to carefully analyze things over that we can't draw from simply watching.

Honestly, I'm surprised you see these FX errors as such a big deal, RR44, considering how badly previous films got it, as well as even the biggest budget movies with heavy CGI. Also, consider intentional scaling differences to emphasize certain scenes. For example, in the end sequence of How To Train Your Dragon, when the Red Death fell to its fiery death, during the scene where Hiccup and Toothless are trying to escape the rising inferno, the scale of Red Death was actually three times its actual size.

Why? For dramatic effect. You don't notice at first, but once someone mentions, looking carefully, you can see it more clearly. All a matter of perspective.

RR44

BaragonMember339 XPSep-28-2014 7:22 AM

known structures = points of reference. forgive my passions on the matter.. if I am watching the final scene in the pre prodution studio.. I would be like... uhhh.. hey guys.. we need to fix this.. cuz the big G looks waaay bigger than that building right there.. the one thats called the One Embarcadero center.. cuz its like 569 feet tall. and our G is like 355 feet tall.. so lets correct that.. cuz some people might think G is bigger than what we said.  

THEY can't be that stupid.

TheGMan123

TitanosaurusMember729 XPSep-28-2014 8:32 AM

Again, either problems figuring out the scale at times, or intentional scaling differences.

RR44

BaragonMember339 XPSep-29-2014 6:04 AM

well.. its been a slice... I can only speak on this for so long.. I will wait to see what they do in the sequel. IMO.. if I were in charge of production.. I certainly would want consistancy if I was portraying the biggest monster to ever grace the big screen... up against the some of the most elaborite skyscrapers the world has come to know. and I personally would not have told the public that Godzilla is this big.. and then have him appear on screen bigger than what I had said. but you have to admit.. for a movie that was intended to be "grounded and realistic'.. and for all the money and effort invested.. they made a few mistakes. Its not like they could have overlooked these errors in preproduction. It could have been corrected in time. besides.. its not like they did'nt have enough time to make adjustments. they had 5 plus years to get everything set.. to plan everything. So the size "depiction' error.. if thats what it was.. was a huge error. no pun intended. Gareth Edwards may be a rookie in Hollywood.. but even he had to have seen that one.

TheGMan123

TitanosaurusMember729 XPSep-29-2014 6:23 AM

Well, what fun would that be if all the CGI were perfect? Then we fans would have nothing to chew the film about FX-wise, and that's customary of all Godzilla films :P

Huge-Ben

BaragonMember330 XPSep-29-2014 3:25 PM

^Very true. However, you all have to agree that jim rygiel did do a great job on G14. :)

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RR44

BaragonMember339 XPOct-02-2014 7:23 AM

yes.. i agree... can't wait to see what he does with gidorah in the sequels. i hope seamus mcgary returns as well. We need more money shots of monsters vs people so to speak.

RR44

BaragonMember339 XPOct-02-2014 7:25 AM

sorry.. seamus mcgarvy..

RR44

BaragonMember339 XPOct-02-2014 7:27 AM

dang it.. it can't spell right or type for squat.. McGaarvey.. there got it right that time.

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