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MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-07-2014 5:54 PM

Is Godzilla Jr Godzilla 2000 so heres the link Is Godzilla Junior the Millienium Godzilla? You Decide!! - YouTube tell me in the comments.

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godzillafan1995

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-07-2014 6:04 PM

no, godzilla 2000 had no links to the hesei series, if it did we would have G-Force and the UNGCC. also at the end of gvsd godzilla jr has the extact body to his farther.

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MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-07-2014 6:08 PM

So who's the Godzilla in FW? Burning Godzilla?

dinoboy22

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-07-2014 6:10 PM

the one in final wars was a different godzilla as well

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MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-07-2014 6:12 PM

Oh so why does it have That ending scene From GvD that people say it is Jr i thought it was Burning Godzilla's Ghost but then my cousin said his son

Chaddavis2292

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-07-2014 7:20 PM

Yea in GFW that is junior but not in godzilla 2000 it could have been but toha did not wanted to make it like that which is kinda silly. 

Akio123

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-07-2014 7:26 PM

MOST Godzilla movies don't actually have a connection with one another. Most of them are just their own rendition

Mecha G

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-07-2014 7:26 PM

No I don't think so cuz I think Godzilla jr is Godzilla from final wars. Hera me out. At the end of the opening scene of final wars you see the ending of the movie Godzilla vs distroyah when Godzilla jr is revived from his fathers nuclear energy. The same scene shows so I think Godzilla jr is Godzilla from final wars

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaFeb-07-2014 7:57 PM

Godzilla 2000 is not Godzilla Jr.

The Godzilla in Final Wars is not Godzilla Jr.

Both are seperate Godzillas in different timelines that have no connection to the Heisei series.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

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MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-07-2014 8:34 PM

Gman you are right about the timelines this movie takes place 2037 but i just thought of something in GvsKG 1991 King Ghidorah was something of the futurians i belive and japan was going to be destroyed  or something and it all most the same thing in FW

FW is year 2037 

GvsKG is year 1992 

futurians are from 2204 so is King Ghidorah i think 

and yes i do think Jr is in Fw because the intro ends with Jr or Buring Godzilla Ghost roaring that means his legacy lives on and and in that scene with the people in super x3 say that the radiation is really srtong so yes i do think Jr is in FW

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaFeb-07-2014 8:52 PM

It is never stated in the movie when Final Wars takes place, but lets assume it is 2037. There's still no relation between it and Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Even if Final Wars took place in 2037, 2204 is still just around 200 years later. So what is the point you're trying to make?

The Godzilla in Final Wars is not Godzilla Jr. Director Ryuhei Kitamura thought about making it Godzilla Jr. but decided against it. The opening credits scene doesn't mean anything. It was just a cool opening shot that Kyle Cooper was hired to put together for the movie.

I also want to clarify that it wasn't a Burning Godzilla Ghost, but Godzilla Jr. as an adult from Godzilla vs. Destroyah. The only reason those shots were used was because Kyle Cooper thought it looked cool, not because it was Godzilla Jr.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

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MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-07-2014 9:08 PM

oh will thanks for clearing it out thanks Gman

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonFeb-08-2014 9:43 AM

no i wonder why they didnt give godzilla jr a debut film after destroyah kind of wish they would have but they chose not too

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaFeb-08-2014 12:52 PM

^Toho simply wanted to go in a different direction. The Heisei storyline was over and there wasn't much more that could've been done with it. No point in dragging it out further, especially since the Millennium series proved to be more fruitful for overseas markets.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Akagi

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-08-2014 1:06 PM

Both Godzilla 2000 and Final Wars were originally planned to be continuations of the Heisei series but the concepts were both scrapped.

Kitamura said he liked the idea except that the Heisei Godzilla series represented everything he hated about Godzilla (over emphasis on politics, little action or as he stated "I don't want to watch two men sitting around smoking a cigarettes discussing how to kill Godzilla"-- thus why he avoided the concept all together. 

If we are basing Final Wars on its opening scene, then technically every Godzilla movie happened and was some how linked into the continuity-- which isn't the case.

There were a lot of odd ideas were thrown back and forth for Godzilla 2000, including Godzilla being Jr and fighting Showa monsters like Anguirus-- these were scrapped as well.

But Godzilla 2000 was made purposely ambiguous, as the producers thought if they had low emphasis on Godzilla's origins it'd be more marketable, and for that reason alone I believe all the fan speculation of Godzilla 2000's origins sprung forth. There are even non Godzilla fans who thought Godzilla 2000 is a sequel to Godzilla 98. 

On the same page, Final Wars is also very ambiguous as well for the same marketing reasons. 

He is 350ft Tall people, those things on his neck ARE gills, and the Brazil photo is part of the final advertising design-- Deal with it.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaFeb-08-2014 1:26 PM

Ambiguous might be too big of a word for some people here to understand, Akagi. But you're dead on about everything so I hope your voice is heard.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Akagi

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-08-2014 1:29 PM

GMan2887

 

I can understand that logic, like trying to explain that the Fantastic Four movie isn't set in the same universe as The Avengers, or that the new Spiderman movie wasn't a prequel to Sam Raimi's spiderman, or trying to explain to my uncle that the new star wars movies were prequels and not sequels (something he still doesn't understand).

He is 350ft Tall people, those things on his neck ARE gills, and the Brazil photo is part of the final advertising design-- Deal with it.

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MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-08-2014 6:36 PM

oh and in GvsM (megagirus) Godzilla 2000 is really 54 in that movie but if i'am wrong then i should watch the movie again

godzillafan1995

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-08-2014 6:53 PM

no your right with that, godzilla in gvsmegagirus is an alternate universe where the original godzilla were he isn't killed by the oxygen destoryer instead disapers for decades. so you are right

godzilla964

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-13-2014 10:46 AM

"Godzilla 2000" is really a stand alone movie. It doesn't even require seeing the original Godzilla. The same thing with "Godzilla Final Wars", you don't need to see any previous movies to enjoy it. "Godzilla Final Wars" and "Godzilla 2000" are both stand alone films. 

 

godzilla964

MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-13-2014 10:47 AM

 

 

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