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Rebirth of Mothra trilogy opinions

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ErwinGFan91

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-13-2014 4:52 PM

Hello guys,

Just recently held a godzilla movie marathon from the first untill the last movie over 2 weeks.

Also watched the other toho kaiju movies during my marathon. Like the three rebirth of mothra movies.

I have mixed feelings about these movies. Don't know for sure if I like these spinoff movies or not. They were entertaining for what they are and they had some very good moments. Have you guys seen them? and what are your thoughts on these movies. Do you like to watch them in companion with the heisei godzilla movies?

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Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonMar-13-2014 4:55 PM

well to be honest the mothra triology wasnt all that bad however people seem to forget that the heisei godzilla films reigned supreme at the box office in toho. i actually liked the rebirth of mothra 3 the best because of the way king ghidorah is protrayed just plain out evil and badass the way he needs to be :)

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ErwinGFan91

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-13-2014 5:00 PM

@BIGBADBEN

Agree on that one. The third film was probably best. I mean it's Ghidorah. I also like how they made the different awsome mothra incarnations throughout the movies.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMar-13-2014 6:02 PM

I truly believe these to be some of the worst, most unwatchable, cheap cash grabs of the entire genre. The first movie is tolerable at best. The second one I never want to watch again and the third has some fun special effects moments, but the entire concept is absolutely awful.

I don't mind that they're primarily targeting a much younger audience, but Toho really lost the balance between appealing to both children and adults with the same film. A friend in the Godzilla community, whom I highly regard, once said, "making something kid-friendly but still sophisticated enough to engage older viewers requires a lot more thought than just throwing bright colors at the screen."

The Mothra trilogy does the latter. The characters get progressively worse with each movie and Koichi Kawikata's special effects in the first two movies mark his worst, laziest efforts yet. These movies came to theaters around the time of the Gamera Trilogy, mind you. Suitmation and miniature effects had evolved and become far more sophisticated with Kaneko/Higuchi's Gamera. In contrast, the effects in the Mothra trilogy seemed to be a step backwards from even the worst moments in the Heisei Godzilla series. The Mothra props were generally immobile and lifeless. And the "spark" effects were becoming increasingly hokier. The few miniatures that were in these movies were pretty stale as well.

They did well at the box office due to Mothra's popularity, but that doesn't excuse how truly awful they were. The 1970s Godzilla movies make much more engaging children films than these disasters...

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KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusMar-13-2014 6:07 PM

@ Bigbadben and Erwingfan91, I second that opinion. Rebirth of Mothra 3 is the best of the trilogy. Mothra vs. Grand King Ghidorah (that's what they called that King Ghidorah, Google it if you don't believe me). You know that movie took place 3 years after Godzilla died at the end of Godzilla vs Destoroyah and around the time of the shameful movie from tristar. Guess King Ghidorah though he be able to destory earth once and for all with Godzilla out of the way. He probably didn't count on Mothra standing in his way. I just wish that I could find that movie on DVD or iTunes.

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Madison

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-13-2014 6:08 PM

Damn GMAN2887, how do you really feel? Don't hold back now :-)

Sorry, I don't mean to be a smartass. And I don't disagree with your points. That was just the most harsh I think I've ever seen you be with a film other than Godzilla 1998.

junkerde

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-13-2014 6:08 PM

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMar-13-2014 6:15 PM

@Madison

Haha, well they're pretty much the bottom of the barrel for the entire genre. In some ways the Mothra movies and GINO have a great deal in common for how misguided their attempts at the genre, or staples from the genre, were driven to the screen. I don't apologize for either one.

@KingKaijuGojira

You won't find Rebirth of Mothra 3 on DVD because Sony has yet to release it on any physical home video format. They've had the North American rights to the movie for nearly 15 years, but they've never bothered releasing for whatever reason... There's a chance they might release it on Bluray with the other two movies to cash in on Legendary's Godzilla.

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Danzilla93

MemberBaragonMar-13-2014 9:22 PM

Wow... well, dare I admit that they are three of my favorite kaiju films of all time? :P Of course, I love Spacegodzilla too, so maybe I'm the one with the problem.  It sucks being an outsider in a fandom comprised almost exclusively of outsiders.

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMar-13-2014 11:12 PM

I suppose there is indeed something for everyone in this genre. I don't think these movies hold enough merit for repeat viewings...

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Akagi

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-14-2014 2:43 AM

I have a hard time watching these movies-- and lets be honest, they were made with young kids and particularly girls in mind.

 

Sure, there is a lot of good visuals, but for the most part, they just weren't all that great. I feel like the only one with a story that was remotely interesting was the second one, but as we know, thats the most unpopular one of them all (The weakest story being the third film, yet it had the coolest monsters).

 

Irony I guess.

He is 350ft Tall people, those things on his neck ARE gills, and the Brazil photo is part of the final advertising design-- Deal with it.

timothyzilla1996

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-20-2014 7:20 AM

I personally have not seen the movies since I was probably 10 years old(17 now) but when I was a kid I highly enjoyed them. I can remember crying in the first one when mothra dies lol. I still own the first 2 on vhs, the 3rd one I only saw once on Sci-Fi, I always wanted it on vhs/DVD but I don't think it was ever released in america and my parents wouldn't buy a Japanese copy. I have a feeling if I watched them again(Which I will soon) I probably wouldn't like them as much though, as it seems they were mainmly geared towards kids.... Haha 

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMar-20-2014 12:18 PM

^Very much aimed at children and only children. These are kiddie movies to the extreme.

And as I mentioned before, Sony still owns the rights to all three films, but in the last 15 years, never got around to releasing the third movie on DVD. That might change in the near future, however.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

ghidorah2001

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-17-2014 11:51 PM

i love it for one reason ghidorah oh how desghidorah and grand king ghidorah cretatious king ghidorah oh beatiful but yeah the films are good but mothras not my favoret monster shes awsome and great but just kinda weird but shes still great and so are these films

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