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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-28-2015 11:36 AM

A new side of the bracket, a new thread. Round 8 was the closest round thusfar. Here comes the next.

 

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 7:26 AM

Oh No!  If Godzilla 2000 wins, then my two favorite millennium series Godzilla films are gonna go up against each other! Gmk vs. Godzilla 2000? 

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Durp004

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 8:32 AM

If it makes you feel any better my two favorite Godzilla films of all time are going against eachother on the other side of the bracket.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 8:59 AM

Durp004,

Two of the greatest in the heisei series competing against each other! It's going to be extremely difficult to pick just 1! Biollante vs. Destroyah.

I have a feeling that my top 2 favorites of all time will go head to head as well. That being Godzilla 54' vs. Mothra vs. Godzilla 64'.  If it boils down to it, I'll cast a vote for both. Lol. 

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Durp004

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 9:06 AM

I think Biollante is by far the better movie between the two, but of course I think it's the best movie in the series. I however like Destoroyah more due to nostalgia and personal tastes. 

 

If I look at it in a nonbiased way Biollante should kill it, but it could go either way. I personally hope Biollante wins betweeen the two as I think it's the movie that could go farther in this competition; I don't know if Godzilla vs Destoroyah could beat Ghidorah the Three-headed Monster.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 9:13 AM

I think it's how we all look at these films. We all see things differently from each other. There's a lot of showa films not used yet and it bothers me on what they will compete against. Say terror of mechagodzilla competes against Godzilla vs. Invasion of astro monster. Which film will get the most votes? I love both of these films I just mentioned and I feel like both are more than worthy going on to the next round. 

I really wish this was a double elimination. :(

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Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 9:17 AM

Typo made. I meant Godzilla vs. Monster zero.

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Durp004

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 9:43 AM

The last part of this bracket is going to end up with a lot of good movies going out first round. Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla, Terror of Mechagodzilla, Gojira, Monster Zero, Mothra vs Godzilla, Godzilla vs Mothra 92, Son of Godzilla, Ebirah Horror from the Deep, Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla and Godzilla 98 are still left

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJul-05-2015 11:35 AM

Another big round. Godzilla 2000 beat Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S. 10 to 6.

ROUND 11:

Godzilla vs. Mothra '92 VS. Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Durp004

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 12:23 PM

Well, time to confess. I love both these movies. I'll start with Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla

 

I think everyone has a bad movie that they find they love. Whether that is Godzilla's Revenge, Godzilla vs Megalon, Godzilla vs Megaguirus or a movie outside this series everyone has that one movie that is ridiculous, maybe bad but for some reason you love it. For me that is Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla. I love that after being in the last three movies for no reason besides name appeal Miki finally has a point. I love how once again for the first time in the last 3 movies psychic powers are actually used and attempted to control Godzilla, sure it fails but at least it was an interesting aspect, nothing wrong with every plan not going through, I love a Godzilla from space and how ridiculous that is. I love how they made Little Godzilla look like a better Minilla, but explained why he looked so strange. I even enjoyed MOGUERA. Yes I love Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla I don't think it's one of the best movies the series has or even top ten but I don't think it's exactly bottom either. 

 

Godzilla vs Mothra has great characters. I know they don't do anything for the last 15 minutes during the final fight, but neither did the characters from Godzilla 2000 and no one faults them. Takuya is a great character and is really underrated. Being ashamed of his shady profession, then eventually choosing his family over wealth. The effects fall pretty badly, but I don't think that hurts too much. It deals with its environmental message a lot better than Godzilla vs Hedorah, Battra is a cool monster, a Mothra from Earth with humanity being its greatest threat. It has parts that take directly from the original Mothra, in terms of the monsters but the characters change it enough.

 

Overall despite my love for SpaceGodzilla I think Godzilla vs Mothra is the better movie. 

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 1:42 PM

Whoa! Okay, this is an odd one. Let's see.

Godzilla vs. Mothra 1992 is well, a remake of Mothra 1961 with both Godzilla and Battra thrown in as almost afterthoughts. The special effects are better in this than SpaceGodzilla. It's got a better storyline. Maybe a few more interesting characters. The only thing memorable of Spacegodzilla is little Godzilla.

 

My vote is for Godzilla vs. Mothra 92'. I really don't care for either one due to the fact that both are films that I don't watch over and over.

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The King of the Monsters

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-05-2015 1:42 PM

Well, this is an interesting and in my opinion a close matchup. I feel that these are the worst two films in the Heisei series and two of the worst in the franchise. Of course, don't take my use of "worst" as an attempt to deman these films, because as I've said before I love all of the movies to an extent, but I feel these are probably some of the lowest-quality films the series has to offer. Godzilla vs. Mothra was the first film I saw, and though it holds a special place in my heart for that reason, it consistently ranks in my bottom three least favorite. And while I consider Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla one of the worst entries in the series, I sincerely enjoy it. GvSG has long been a guilty pleasure for me, while GvM is a film I rarely think of, so I'll go with SpaceGodzilla.

Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla has some stellar monster action. The new Godzilla suit, while looking very overweight, is still probably the best-looking suit since Bio/GhidoGoji, SpaceGodzilla is an interesting and impressive villain, M.O.G.U.E.R.A. is a great mecha that I feel is portrayed very convincingly, and Little Godzilla is just downright adorable. The battle scenes are flashy, and as usual rely heavily on beam-fare, although there are some impressive moments like where SpaceGodzilla uses his telekinesis to lift and throw Godzilla, and when he impales M.O.G.U.E.R.A. on his tail. I also love the setting of the final battle in Fukuoka, with crystals surrounding the arena, and the tower looming in the center of the arena. The biggest downfall of the film, I believe, is just that the human plot is very uneven. It introduces some interesting characters, but like Biollante there are too many introduced at once to get invested in and their character development is squandered. Not to mention the entire Yakuza subplot, which just felt desperately shoehorned in and just makes the film's pacing feel very strange. A lot of people dislike Hattori's score for the film, but I thought it was a very pleasant score that was a nice break from Ifukube's excellent but repetitive scores.

Godzilla vs. Mothra's strength I feel lies in its characters. The "divorced couple gets back together during a crisis because of concern for their child" cliche wasn't very commonplace in cinema at this time, and it certainly is a welcome plot device in the series. Takuya is a solid lead, his ex-wife Masako provides a funny adversarial angle to the plot, and the bumbling Andoh (played by Takehiro Murata, one of my favorite actors in the series) is a likeable supporting character. Unfortunately, I feel that the characters' arcs weren't carried out all the way through, and the way the characters do absolutely nothing while spectating the final battle is a bit of a downer. The monster action is what kills the film for me. The battle between Godzilla and the larval Mothra and Battra is great, but the final battle is a letdown for me. I like the setting in Yokohama's Minato Mirai 21 district, but unfortunately the Mothra and Battra imago props are so lifeless and stiff that the battle relies almost entirely on beams. Mothra just doesn't feel like a character that should have beams, yet all she does in the final battle is fire antenna lasers and wing lightning. The scene where she uses her scales as a 3-D mirror and entraps Godzilla is pretty cool, and for me the highlight of the battle. The very limited physical contact between the monsters consists of Godzilla grabbing and tossing a stiff prop around.

So, I don't personally give either of these films very high marks, though I enjoy both, but I'll give Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla the benefit of the doubt. It tried to do a little too much, but it features some very well-done monster action, which is why we all watch these movies in the first place.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

Ray Burrberry

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-05-2015 2:08 PM

I guess whoever faces Godzilla 98 in this competition will get a bye into the next round. Lol!

 

Durp004

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 2:14 PM

^The same could be said for Godzilla's Revenge really I mean a tournament where Godzilla vs Megalon progresses to the second round has a problem.

Ray Burrberry

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-05-2015 4:52 PM

I'll go with Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla. There's a lot of cheesy moments in SpaceGodzilla including some really bad special effects when SG battles MOGUERA in space. There's another really bad moment when the soldiers try to rescue Miki and she uses her abilities to give them an advantage. It was poorly done and very cheesy looking. MOGUERA was a step down from MechaGodzilla in the previous film and the costume for Little Godzilla was a huge step down from Baby Godzilla. 

Nevertheless, SpaceGodzilla gets the nod as I like the scene where SG attacks LG and Godzilla comes to the rescue as well as the attempts to interact with Godzilla. I like SG as a monster villain and black sheep of the Godzilla family. Lol!

Godzilla vs. Mothra 92' is just Mothra fatigue at this point. I've barely watched this film which tells you what I think of it. 

Something Real

MemberGodzillaJul-05-2015 6:17 PM

GMAN2887 - Oh, gosh! Do I really have to make a choice? Hmm...allow me to ponder this for a moment. Looking between the two, I will have to cast my vote in favor of Godzilla vs Mothra for one very glaring reason: I absolutely despise Space Godzilla - at least the suit they used to bring his character to life. Given a more articulate and interesting appearance, Space Godzilla (in my opinion) could have been one of the most memorable monsters in the Toho pantheon. However, I am of the opinion the Space Godzilla looked and moved as if he was about to give birth to quadruplets at any moment! Not only that, but the inclusion MOGUERA was...hmm, I think the best word to describe it is "flat". There simply was not enough to keep my attention upon the machine and its pilots - they seemed to be added as a means for Mankind to become aware of Space Godzilla as he traveled throughh space toward Earth. Of course, this is simply me jabbering; my opinion is simply that, an opinion. :)

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJul-05-2015 6:20 PM

@Something real,

"Applauds! "

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KoldWarKid62

MemberBaragonJul-06-2015 5:14 PM

One Heisei film that's OK for me, another I have a real hard time watching. Which is the one I dislike less? That's what it comes down to for me.

Godzilla Vs. Space Godzilla is as enjoyable as a toothache. It is really painful for me to watch. It's like the filmmakers just completely mailed it in for this one, on just about every level. The designs of Space Godzilla and Baby are laughable and lazy. I really don't know whether to cringe or laugh; it's that bad. The effects are some of the worst in the entire series. The story is meh. Can you tell it's not on my "take it with me to a desert island" list?

Godzilla Vs. Mothra? I don't hate or dislike it as much as many others do. I certainly don't love it either. It's been a while since I've watched either of these. I may be due, just as a refresher. But for this round, without having to think too much about it, I have to go with Godzilla Vs. Mothra.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJul-08-2015 9:50 PM

We can still have faith in humanity... for now. Godzilla vs. Mothra beat Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla 8 to 6. Next round!

ROUND 12:

Godzilla '98 VS. Terror of MechaGodzilla

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Something Real

MemberGodzillaJul-09-2015 1:26 AM

HUGE-BEN - Hahaha! Thank you, sir! THank you! :)

Something Real

MemberGodzillaJul-09-2015 1:38 AM

GMAN2887 - Ugh! Godzilla '98 vs Terror of Mechagodzilla?! You, good sir, are devious! This is a far more difficult decision than it may appear at first glance. Hmm...after careful consideration, I shall cast my vote in favor of Terror of Mechagodzilla. However, the only reason for the way in which I have weighed my choice is due to my fondness for Mechgodzilla. Gosh; that was actually more thought-provoking than I would have initially suspected! I believe the honest battle should have been between the scripts and acting; but I threw that to the wind and sided with childhood fondness. :)

Durp004

MemberBaragonJul-09-2015 5:59 AM

The real question isn't who's going to win, it's if G98 even gets a vote.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJul-09-2015 8:01 PM

^Is that a vote in of itself?

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Durp004

MemberBaragonJul-10-2015 10:59 AM

Yeah while I don't have the hate for the 98 movie like some people Terror of MechaGodzilla is just beyond it in every way. Better characters story, monsters everything. Terror of Mechagodzilla is just a great movie. Will get more into the specifics when it goes up against a movie that actually has a chance against it since this round it will roll the competition.

Ray Burrberry

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-12-2015 11:26 AM

Gee, let me really really think about this one. I'll go with Terror of MechaGodzilla.

Therizinosaurus Rex(aka Kaijusaurs)

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-12-2015 4:52 PM

What's this thread about?

Therizinosaurus for JW2!

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJul-13-2015 4:24 PM

In a pretty wasy match-up, Terror of MechaGodzilla blew out Godzilla '98 13 to 0.

This thread will be archived and the tournament will continue in this thread.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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