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Godzilla's Original (Showa) Origin

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JurassicNight

MemberTitanosaurusJun-30-2017 2:38 PM

This something I just felt like throwing out there, as a lot of people actually don't seem to know this. A lot of people say that Godzilla's origin is that he was a Godzillasaurus, mutated by the Atomic Bomb. That is true.... for the heisei era, however people have just taken it as true for all eras. But that's not the case, especially for the showa era. In fact the showa eras origin is a lot closer to G 14's origin, let me show you.

G 54/Showa- In the showa era he isn't mutated like many think, but in fact is simply a prehistoric creature awakened by the bomb. This isn't me going off theories, I'm straight up taking this out of Gojira. The professor says that Godzilla was awakened by Atomic testing and has lived at the bottom of the ocean where ancient creatures still exist. He then proves this by showing the trilobite found in Godzilla's footprint. Then at the end of the movie after G dies, the professor says that  another Godzilla might be awakened by nuclear testing, which is exactly what happens in Godzilla Raids Again, this time awakening Anguirus as well. 

G 80's/90's- For the heisei era Godzilla was a Godzillasaurus on a Japanese Island, mutated by the atomic bomb. 

G 2000,s-Mixed some movies have it to where it's the showa origin, and others to where it's the heisei one.

G 14- In G 14 Godzilla was an ancient Alpha predator, living millions of years ago when the Earth was 10 times more radioactive. He went into slumber at the bottom of the sea, only to be awakened by nuclear testing.

Interesting isn't it, they really tried hard to make G's origin like the original movie, which is awesome. In fact they didn't just try to make G's origin the same, they tried to make all of them the same, by them being prehistoric creatures re-awoken. 

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Im Durp

MemberBaragonJun-30-2017 3:01 PM

I don't really remember the millennium movies really going over his background, or it being similar to heisei's.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-30-2017 4:37 PM

All very true, G2014Himself. This is often overlooked and I'm glad you're one (of the few?) who understands this.

The Millennium series origins are largely unexplained, which is fine. We know who Godzilla is--We get it. No need to go in to another lengthy origin tale. Especially in an anthology series.

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KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusJun-30-2017 4:52 PM

I agree with G.H.(Gman). Thank you Godzilla 2014 Himself for the reminder of the original origin of the King. I feel that many people consider Godzilla a dinosaur probably because of the Heisei origin. I still think the Showa origin and the Legendary origin are the best because they make Godzilla a distinct creature separate from other lifeforms.

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Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJun-30-2017 5:23 PM

I'd like to add some information from a few films that's often overlooked.

54- Dr. Yamane explains that Godzilla existed during the Jurassic period and also when the "ever-evolving animals" existed. The mind which can be both land and sea animal. Although, Dr. Yamane explains all of this and the info you shared Godzilla 2014 himself, the fact is, the old man of Odo island already knew Godzilla existed. That old man has to be anywhere from the ages of 50-70. If he already knows what Godzilla is, this means he was already seen before the nuclear bomb took place in 54. Although they don't really explain that much but, the old man tells of the legend in which, the legend was true. 

G14- "Was awoken by nuclear tests." Not really. Dr. Serizawa explained that a Russian nuclear submarine awoke him in 1954 and that all the bomb tests in the 50's were used to kill him. Which it failed. 

Mixed movies show one's the Showa origin while others the heisei? I'm actually lost on this one. Would you be kind enough to fill me in on this? 

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TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusJun-30-2017 5:48 PM

According to Awakening, Godzilla was first awoken in 1946 after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, after which MONARCH was funded to track him so that the U.S. government could attempt to kill him.

EmptyH

MemberBaragonJun-30-2017 6:29 PM

Dr. Yamane also says he was from 2 million years ago from when dinosaurs existed, so some of their data may be slightly inaccurate.

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JurassicNight

MemberTitanosaurusJun-30-2017 6:54 PM

Huge Ben- Gladly, basically most of the millenium Godzilla films don't discuss his origin, but some of them hint at it. Godzilla 2000 gives literally no explanation of origin so for all we know he could be either. Godzilla vs Megaguirus is the same Godzilla so same thing. GMK has hints throughout the movie that he's semi heisei origin, as they say that he gained power through the nuclear bomb, although it doesn't actually say he was created by it. Godzilla Against MechaGodzilla/Godzilla Tokyo SOS believe in Gojira's origin and Final Wars is yet again a case of we don't know.

JurassicNight

MemberTitanosaurusJun-30-2017 6:58 PM

Im Durp- They largely don't but refer to my comment above to see what I mean.

Huge Ben, EmptyH, TheGman-Thanks for giving more information for clarification.

Gman-Sadly we are really one of the few, almost everybody thinks it's the heisei origin the whole series through. 

KingKaijuGojira-Heavily agreed, one of the reasons I loved the original so much is that he was unique. He wasn't a random mutated creature, but a unique ancient one awoken by the bomb. 

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-30-2017 6:59 PM

"According to Awakening, Godzilla was first awoken in 1946 after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, after which MONARCH was funded to track him so that the U.S. government could attempt to kill him."

Which of course contradicts what Serizawa had said in the movie.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-30-2017 7:01 PM

G14Himself,
I'm not sure if it's the way you worded it, but just to clarify,
the Godzilla in Godzilla x Megaguirus was not the same one from Godzilla 2000. Totally different continuity.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJun-30-2017 7:13 PM

G14 himself,

"We scientists produced this monster. Godzilla. And ever since then, we've tried to destroy him." -Godzilla 2000 quote. So, did scientists make this Godzilla in 54?

In Megaguirus, Godzilla existed in 54 with stock footage using the 2000 design and again, later attacked in 1966. They even said Godzilla was the same from 54 and mankind was powerless to stop him.

Gmk, we know it's not the 54 revived. "The first Godzilla attack was repulse. (ie 54) the animal was killed by using an unknown chemical compound. (oxygen destroyer) the inventor has since died and his records have disappeared. Existing weapons were totally useless back then." this quote comes after Tachibana's question. "So minister, in the 50's did we really get rid of Godzilla? At the time I doubted it, but I taught my men to be proud of what they did. I wonder was it worth it?"

Final wars opening quote, "The king of monsters, that appeared in 1954 which still threatens man's very existence. It's name is..." 

I'm not bringing all of this up to be a negative nancy or anything. Just pointing out what's said in the films. 

 

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JurassicNight

MemberTitanosaurusJun-30-2017 7:15 PM

Gman- Actually thanks for saying that because I forgot, in fact now that you say that, the Godzilla x Megaguirus Godzilla was apart of the Showa origin. The beginning of the movie shows him destroying Japan in basically remakes of scenes from Gojira. The only difference being that he didn't die from the oxygen destroyer. 

JurassicNight

MemberTitanosaurusJun-30-2017 7:21 PM

Huge Ben- For Godzilla x Megaguirus look what I said above, as for 2000 that quote means that he was mutated/made by the bomb. Final wars though just says thats when he first appeared, which could literally mean any of the origins. 

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJun-30-2017 7:39 PM

^

I think the fact that they say, "Which still threatens man's very existence" is a dead give away. 

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JurassicNight

MemberTitanosaurusJun-30-2017 7:45 PM

Huge Ben-How? Regardless of whether he was an ancient creature or mutated he still threatens mankind.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJun-30-2017 7:56 PM

G14 himself,

The M organization's purpose was to get rid of Godzilla. The one appeared in 1954 Which still threatens man's very existence. According to the film that is. The film takes place in the somewhat distant future if I recall correctly. So, according to the film, Godzilla survived the oxygen destroyer. I don't know how else to explain it. 

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JurassicNight

MemberTitanosaurusJun-30-2017 7:57 PM

I get what you're saying now, so that would mean Final Wars Godzilla is apart of the showa origin.

The Legend of Brian

MemberBaragonJun-30-2017 10:17 PM

I'm curious what the origin is for Godzilla in Monster Planet. It's interesting that Godzilla appears at the end of the 20th century, or it at least doesn't have any immediate ties to the nuclear testing in the 50's which all the origins have had a connection to.

JurassicNight

MemberTitanosaurusJul-01-2017 11:03 AM

The Legend of Brian-That's what I was thinking, he doesn't appear until like 2030 or something. 

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