Titan of Water
MemberBaragonJan-19-2020 3:04 PMThese are some movies I felt that i may have been unfair too in one way or another.
1. Monster Zero
2. Godzilla vs the Sea Monster
3. Godzilla’s Revenge
4. Godzilla vs Hedorah
5. Godzilla 2000
6. The Anime Trilogy
Angering the Godzilla fan base one take at a time
JurassicKaiju14
MemberTitanosaurusJan-19-2020 6:54 PMI haven't seen Monster Zero or Godzilla's Revenge in ages. I have Godzilla 2000 on DVD (I enjoyed it a lot), and I've yet to see vs the Sea Monster, vs Hedorah, or the Anime Trilogy (even though I could easily watch the later on my Netflix account).
A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.
Titan of Water
MemberBaragonJan-19-2020 6:58 PMFor some reason it’s hard for me not to see the anime trilogy as three separate films but one film split into three parts.
Angering the Godzilla fan base one take at a time
Titan of Water
MemberBaragonJan-19-2020 6:58 PMBtw, hows the new profile pic?
Angering the Godzilla fan base one take at a time
JurassicKaiju14
MemberTitanosaurusJan-19-2020 7:23 PMLooks good, I guess. I kinda liked the old one better, but that's just me.
A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.
ThiccolasCage
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-19-2020 9:49 PMHi, first post here. Always heard bad things about 2000, but just viewed it 2 days ago for the first time to gain my own opinion.
Besides the actual design of Godilla that people were freaking out on, the movie made some critical tropes that were all too familiar for that time period. How does someone steal your video evidence and you just magically fall back in love again once they say sorry? That's the main thing that annoyed me, the pressure to have a happy-go-lucky romance shine through some major red flags of continuous manipulation patterns . Trying to keep it vague to avoid spoilers to those whom haven't seen it.
Godzilla himself wasn't all too terrible, it was cool how they lured him out/ gave him a "caring" personality after seeing his babies die, but besides that he is as generic as most monsters come. I think even Rugrats made Reptar a little more interesting than that.
G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaJan-19-2020 10:41 PMThiccolasCage,
Welcome to the forum, but wrong movie, yo.
This is Godzilla 2000:
This is the dumpster fire you're talking about. It came out in 1998:
dk
MemberGodzillaJan-19-2020 10:52 PMBS- 1998 was a good movie but I can see how and why purists wouldn't like it. Remember it came out when JP was on fire at the time and the 98 makers seemed to want a piece of that pie. I just hated that Zilla died in that movie. It was a nice pop corn flick- nothing wrong with that.
ThiccolasCage Welcome!
G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaJan-19-2020 11:09 PMdk,
Actual question: How is it a good movie? Even taking the Godzilla title out of the equation, it's a blueprint for every bad 1990s blockbuster cliche, from shoehorned romance to elevate the lead protagonist, to bad, petty humor like the Mayor Ebert character. It has more in common with the commercialized schlock of Armageddon than anything.
And the Jurassic Park comparisons border desperate plagiarism more than homage.
dk
MemberGodzillaJan-19-2020 11:21 PMG. H. (Gman) Answer: It was a good pop corn flick to introduce my daughter to who didn't understand the concpt but loved dino action movies. Yeah- I didn't like the romance elements- but that seems to have been a theme with 80s and 90s flicks in general. Even the original JP looks silly to me now but it was huge and cool in its day.
It's a good movie because you can just sit back and enjoy some good action. Every movie doesn't have to be a mind bending exercise in analyzing how faithful it is to a certain canon. Movies should entertain. Some times it is as simple as that.
G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaJan-20-2020 12:13 AMI agree that the goal to entertain is one many blockbusters aspire, but I don't think merely being entertaining denotes good quality. I'm wholly entertained by Alien vs. Predator, but it's anything but good. And in this particular case, I found the 1998 disaster as stale and boring as most action flicks of the decade--So I can't relate to that.
JurassicKaiju14
MemberTitanosaurusJan-20-2020 9:30 AMThiccolasCage First off, welcome to the site!
And second, Gman is right. The one you watched is the 1998 Roland Emmerich disaster.
Trust me, Godzilla 2000 is a lot better. It isn't the best Godzilla movie in existence, but I think it's a pretty good film, and I think it's a decent way to introduce newcomers to the franchise.
A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.
Gmkgoji
MemberRodanJan-20-2020 12:11 PMYo Titan, thats a sick profile pic.
Zwei Wing is the best singing duo. Change my mind.
Titan of Water
MemberBaragonJan-20-2020 1:30 PMThanks. Did Lazy Fish get my message I sent him.
Angering the Godzilla fan base one take at a time
Trash panda
MemberAnguirusJan-21-2020 9:16 AM1998 Godzilla was even Godzilla at all! I have both the Heisei and the Millennium movies(except for Godzillas Revenge and Godzilla vs Biollante) on dvd and the blu-ray of King Kong vs Godzilla and even those were better!
ThiccolasCage Welcome! It's an honor to have you on here with us.
G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaJan-23-2020 11:42 AMI've been meaning to give Godzilla x Megaguirus another go. I recall the last few times I sat through it, the experience didn't go well. It's been a bottom-of-the-barrel movie for me for awhile, but some scenes have stuck out in my mind calling me to revisit it.
Hopefully I'll put it on in the next couple of months, but I still have a lot of Ultraman to wade through.
Im Durp
MemberBaragonJan-23-2020 1:17 PMWell some of those are some of my favorite movies in the series like Monster Zero and Godzilla vs the Sea Monster. You also have the 2 worst though imo in Godzilla's Revenge and Godzilla vs Hedorah, with the latter being so bad I didn't even rewatch it when I marathoned the movies before KOTM.