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ZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

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Devianteist

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I am not entirely sure if this belongs here.

As many of this community are aware, Tristar's 1998 GODZILLA brought with it an uproar of outrage from the Godzilla community, as well as a new monster and spawning a series, dubbed GODZILLA: The Series.

The new monster in question has since been dubbed Zilla by Toho, after GINO and, apparently, Tuna-Head. Zilla stood on lonely ground. Fans and Toho employees alike berated Zilla with dislike. One person even said, "It's not Godzilla. It doesn't have his spirit." and even someone has stated that Tristar "took the god out of Godzilla."

All was not lost, however, as Zilla Jr. took over for his father, boasting the true spirit of Godzilla, and even a green version of his classic ability in GODZILLA: The Series. While the show itself was a moderate success for the character, the light in with Jr. shown darkened quickly, and he too, fell into obscurity.

Zilla, last appeared before audiences in Final Wars, only to be smitten by Godzilla in, quite litterally, an ol' 1, 2 manner. It has since resurfaced in the Rulers of the Earth comic series, and has proven itself to be a worthy foe to Godzilla himself.

Since this appearance, Zilla has gained more favor than ever before!

This leaves one question:

Does Zilla [and/or Zilla Jr.] deserve RESPECT or TOLERANCE?

Please, share with me your opinions.

-MY OPINION-
I feel Zilla and Zilla Jr. deserve respect. They have set themselves in stone as great kaiju in their own rights, and Zilla itself has even proven, though only in a comic, that he can stand up to Godzilla, if only for a short while, whereas Zilla Jr. held up to his title of Godzilla with all of his fictional might.

P.S. Greetings, I am new here. I am a huge fan of Godzilla and Zilla as well (as Zilla introduced me to the Big G). I would love it if someone would give me a tour via PM and show me just where everything goes.

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I think it deserves to be treated the way it is now, since we have a new film thats more respectful to the source material.

and to be very honest I never had such hatred on it as much as other fans did.

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Zilla's a cutie, and a good monster. He's just not the Godzilla we wanted. On the whole, I believe he deserves respect as a member of the world's kaiju community. Oh, and, sweetheart, take it from this girl: you're likely about to become deluged in...displeasing comments. Brace yourself. ;)
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@Something Real- Oh, I am quite aware of the possible comments this will probably garner. I've been around, snooping. I'm braced.

Thanks for the warning!!

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Zilla is the thing I have an unmatched hate for. It is really ugly, weak, and just horrible. I don't want to be rude, but I am getting kind of sick of all of the nonstop Zilla topics lately. There has been a massive uproar of repeat topics of Zilla getting unneeded hate everything.

FOR SCIENCE OF COURSE!

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@CoolGodzilla- While I respect your opinion, I ask this; why are you wasting your time and mine by posting a comment that does not acknowledge why this post is here?

Please, while not everyone likes the iguana, there are some of us that do, and some of us who wouldn't even know who Godzilla is if it weren't for the ugly, weak, horrible creature. I, for one, am one of the aforementioned people.

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I respect your opinion, Devianteist, but your logic is faulty. You would not even know Godzilla without the '98 version? That's rather sad.

 

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DEVIANTEIST - glad you've done you homework prior to stepping into the deep end, sweetheart. :) Chin up! There's room for every monster on Monster Island.
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GODZILLATHEKING123 - SO you're saying that the gateway (Godzilla 98)through which he found the very thing you support (Gojira) is sad? I thought you'd be pleased for someone else having a love for Godzilla.
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@GodzillaTheKing- I used logic? Where?

@Something Real- Oh I love the deep end of things. I get to meet diverse people. Both pleasent, such as yourself, and not so pleasent.

Also, thank you for jumping on GodzillaTheKing for me. Couldn't think of anything to say. xD

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something real-Well I just thought its a bit disappointing that he has to watch a fake godzilla to realize a real godzilla exists. But apologies if I came across a bit harsh.

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DEVIANTEIST - This really shouldn't be about "jumping on" anybody. We should respect his comments. That being said, I've a massive dislike for anyone showing their backside in so blatant a manner - especially without provoction. You didn't deserve that snip. ;)
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GODZILLATHEKING123 - that's very big of you, sweetheart. Thank you. :)
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@Something Real- Jumping on may not have been the best wording for what I meant. Hm. At the moment I am not quite sure how proper wording could be applied to it. You might be able to find better wordage.
Either way it goes, thanks. No one deserves a snip here. We just need opinions that don't attack anyone.

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DEVIANTEIST - Well spoke.
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I have respect for Zilla Jr. but I have none for Zilla. A large amount of the people I know make fun of Godzilla and say it is crap because of Zilla. I think of Zilla as undeserving for simpathy or respect but Zilla Jr. does . I respect your opinion. When I was a little kid, I had a DVD of the cartoon series with Zilla Jr. and I thought it was awesome! Zilla Jr. deserves to be more known to everyone.

FOR SCIENCE OF COURSE!

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@CoolGodzilla1234- Now that is an opinion I find much more agreeable. In fact, I find that I can only disagree with the indiscriminate hate on Zilla. Then again, that's not important.

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The cartoon series was definitely better than the actual movie which it was based on. Granted, I wasn't crazy about the cartoon and Zilla Jr, but at least it was watchable, compared to the crapfest that was '98.

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I really think that Zilla deserves no Respect

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My take on the Zilla dialog is simply that as a creature design it has some merit and tried to follow some interesting choices for its biology and how it acts/thinks.  But Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin are not patient people and they are well known for not being able to handle material that is based on other media or established source material.

My issue with Zilla was the fact that Emmerich himself never liked the original Godzilla and the script he and Devlin wrote reflected that.  Much of the 'character' of Godzilla was buried beneath chase scenes that work on Fast and Furious movies but a Giant Monster doesn't do chase scenes and he most definitely doesn't run from the army.  Even the worst of the kaiju films don't have your monster playing like its a 300' version of Arnold in Commando, running and hitting the people from out of nowhere.  The obvious problem of him missing his classic atomic breath could have been overlooked had they decided to make a good film that made enough money to warrant a sequel and then introduce his blue ray o' death there and all would have been forgiven then for the most part.

Edwards seems to have avoided the pitfalls of the Emmerich/Devlin version and is using the history and character of Toho's most famous product to build a film upon and not dismissing it entirely.  Zilla needs to be classified as less of a Godzilla and more of a Godzillasaurus that should have been given more time in the evolutionary Eazy Bake Oven™ to develop more and make him the Godzilla that we shouldn't have waited 16 years to see done properly here.

Zilla does deserve a measure of respect but only because others tried to clean up what Emmerich and Devlin messed up.

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wait something real your a girl ?!?

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