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When it comes to movies do you like Godzilla as a guy in a rubber suit or in CGI?

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MemberMothra LarvaeJul-12-2014 5:18 PM

For me when It comes to modern film making I think CGI, cause I dont know If a guy in a suit crushing small buildings would go very well with todays standards, sry dont know what you call the small buildings.

 

But I really do enjoy watching Godzilla as a guy in a suit in movies, like seeing how they use to entertain audiences back in the day.

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Anguirus the Great and Powerful

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-12-2014 5:26 PM

It is a very hard question. I would I have to say I prefer the original suits because it kind of has a nostalgia factor and it is kind more "fun"to watch if you understand what I mean

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MemberMothra LarvaeJul-12-2014 6:09 PM

this is a cool thread:) for me i like watching suitmation gojira movies. but the new gojira 2014 was perfect. but if it looks how zilla did in final wars NO:)

JRR

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-12-2014 6:41 PM

i prefer suit mation, especially when its made like in Godzilla against mechagodzilla/tokyo sos

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Linkzilla

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-12-2014 7:42 PM

Definitely suitimation. The SFX in G2014 were awesome, but they could have been so much better if they had used their modern technology and big budget to make potentially the most lifelike practical effects ever, rather than just doing All CGI, All the Time like every other film these days (but I'm happy now that it looks like Jurassic World will use practical effects for the dinosaurs). As for future Toho films, I would not be happy if they decided to switch to using CGI monsters, since CGI with a low budget generally looks absolutely atrocious. Say what you will about the rubber suits and cardboard buildings of Japanese kaiju films, at least they look a million times better than Sharknado!

Akio123

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-12-2014 8:04 PM

I like them equally. Neither of them is better than the other. The suit is so classic yet so appreciated. its basically Godzilla's foundation and the work theat went into them..DAMN! The CGI Godzilla may not be classic(Im talking about 2014) due to its modernization, yet we were able to see Godzilla in a way we never have! Life-like. A real animal. They are both incredible to me. 

NerdyBandGeeks

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-12-2014 11:09 PM

I agree with Akio123. He put it how I would've said.

GuateGojira

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-12-2014 11:10 PM

100% CGI obviously!!!

 

The old Godzilla movies are excelent, for they time, but the new Godzilla is AWESOME!!! Is the BEST Godzilla and the more realistic.

 

So, the CGI Godzilla is top one now. Old Godzillas are good, but just image a Godzilla vs Destoroyah with CGI??? It will be out of this world!!! :o)

 

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJul-13-2014 12:11 AM

The question is what kind of movie do you prefer to watch? People assume much of the Godzilla series is made like it is because of technological weaknesses, financial issues or because they're old movies. That's only partially true-- Or was...

Japanese suitmation and miniatures is not a hindrance, it's a style of filmmaking. (Typically refered to as 'tokusatsu'.) Although the Godzilla films are some of the most expensive movies made in Japan, (at least in the last decade) Toho, Daiei, Tsuburaya and Toei funnel money into that type of filmmaking because it's a traditional Japanese style.

I think some western fans need to look at the Japanese films as a different form of filmmaking, not inferior-- Realism isn't everything. Consider the style of Kill Bill, 300 and Sin City. None of those movies look realistic, but that's not the point. The same generally goes for Godzilla, Gamera, Ultraman...etc...

Personally, I prefer suitmation / miniatures because it's a very Japanese form of filmmaking. And, like it or not, Godzilla is Japanese-- It fits the franchise best.

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King_of_Zombies

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-13-2014 12:36 AM

CGI is better, the suitmation is from the 50´s, it make it look like a Power Rangers show.

stenclowski

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-13-2014 12:59 AM

Totally Computer Generated Imaginery.

Have you seen how releastic movments godzilla 2014 and zilla did? look at the suits.the animations are not too releastic.the 2007 CGI was also releastic.so i prefer CGI and i agree with King_Of_Zombies

Godzillaser

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-13-2014 4:29 AM

Absolutely CGI

Rubber suits have unnatural movement, but combining them with CGI would be a great idea too.

Sci-Fi King25

MemberGiganJul-13-2014 7:20 AM

I'd prefer a combination for maximum realism.

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Saitama

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-13-2014 7:39 AM

i like suitmation because actor can react to it beacause it's actually there and for me its more fun

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KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusJul-13-2014 12:12 PM

I like both. CGI makes it look awesome and modern. The time it takes to get the suit and the minature buildings together make it seem like art and a throw-back to the classic movies.

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Linkzilla

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-13-2014 12:33 PM

To everyone saying CGI is "better" or "more realistic": please, watch Aliens. I don't want to spoil too much, but, when you're watching, remember that the big alien at the end is depicted entirely with suitimation, animatronics, and puppetry.

Dragonlord Tevin

MemberMothra LarvaeJul-13-2014 12:39 PM

Linkzilla ^^^^ very true dat

for me Ive always wanted to see a mixture of both, you know, like put some visual effects onto the suit guy and all or something

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusJul-13-2014 12:58 PM

@Linkzilla Yes, but remember that it's on a much smaller scale than the likes of monsters rampaging through cities. If the suitmation work is good andand the cameras and sets really make it feel like the suit-actor is really there, it can work wonders. Just look at the Gamera Heisei trilogy and some of its finer suitmation moments. That's probably the best suitmation can get in terms of making the scene feel like its actually happening.

Durp004

MemberBaragonJul-13-2014 4:15 PM

I'm a big fan of practical effects so there's my answer.

KoldWarKid62

MemberBaragonJul-14-2014 6:00 AM
Hmmm, interesting question, and an even more interesting conundrum. Having grown up with Godzilla for the last 51+ years, I obviously have a soft spot in my heart for the “classic” method of making them. I own several Godzilla (and other Japanese monster) movies and enjoy watching them to this day. However, from the first time I heard rumblings of a proposed American version of Godzilla (back in the 80s), I was very excited to see what a bigger budget and more advanced effects could do for my favorite monster. Fast forward 30 years and we have now had two American takes on the character. Although both were unique, and I think the 2014 version obviously got more right than wrong, I don’t think either one nailed it. I also think that in both cases it wasn’t the method used to bring the character to life (cgi vs. suitmation), as much as the filmmakers’ interpretations of the character/movie. At the end of the day the effects are just a means to an end. Having said that, though, the classic, tokusatsu method the Japanese use is really only going to appeal to us (hard-core Godzilla fans). The average movie-goer is not going to want to see men in rubber suits beating the snot out of each other, and those movies are not going to go over big here. In fact, they are a dying breed in their own homeland, so what does that tell you? For me, there’s room for both. If ToHo chooses to make more in the classic style, I’ll watch/buy them. I know most of you will. I don’t know if they will; the genie may be out of the proverbial bottle. I’d still like to see a CGI Godzilla movie that’s going to blow my socks off. I think with a little tweaking the 2014 version would have done just that. It wasn’t quite the movie I wanted/expected, but that has nothing to do with the effects; again just creative decisions the director made. Maybe the sequel will? We’ll see.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJul-14-2014 1:36 PM

Me personally i have to go with suitmation because of its tradition in japan and earlier for the US. Cgi is ok, i mean jim rygiel did a really good job with godzilla don't get me wrong, but old school all the way. :)

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