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MemberMothra LarvaeMay-03-2015 5:56 PMWatching Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla last night, I realized two problems with the continuity of the Heisei series. One, we know that Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah altered the timeline so that Godzilla never existed in the first two Heisei films, Godzilla Returns, and Godzilla vs Biollante. However, in the latter film, the character Gondo who shoots the ANRB bacteria into Godzilla's maw and makes that freaking hilarious one-liner directly afterwards, is killed. Later on in Spacegodzilla's debut, the character Yuki, who was Gondo's companion, holds a grudge against the kaiju for having killed him. However, Godzilla had never existed to have destroyed Yuki in the first place. So why bring up something that never could've happened?
Two, Spacegodzilla's appearance. This really isn't as much of a mistake as the previous error, but brings up the messed up continuity between Biollante and Space-G. Godzilla's doppleganger possesses an eerily similar cry to the rose kaiju, and bears the same tusks on the sides of his mouth, the flaps of skins in the corners of his jaws, and the same ability to cause electrical disturbances. Even when he was blown to bits, you could see Spacegodzilla's "essence" float up into the sky in the same way as Biollante did when she lost her battle against Godzilla. All of this points to the theory that Biollante would have been a much more likely canidate to have the cells be mutated by a black hole rather than having Mothra carrying the cells into space. But again, the first two movies never happened, confusing many. Did it confuse you as well?
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TheGMan123
MemberTitanosaurusMay-03-2015 6:23 PMThere's a very easy answer to all of this. See, the events of Godzilla 1984 and Godzilla VS Biollante were never actually erased. Rather, the Godzilla that appeared in those films was created as a result of the time travel tinkering by the Futurians in Godzilla VS King Ghidorah.
Although the Godzillasaurus was moved from Lagos Island to the Bering Sea, there was another one that ended up becoming the original Godzilla anyways. That, or it simply woke up. But because of the Futurians, King Ghidorah was created as well.
The protagonists only think Godzilla was erased from the timeline, when in actuality he's been the result of time travel the whole time. Eventually, everyone realizes this, seeing as how they realize that they wouldn't have remembered the original Godzilla, the 1984 incident, or the Biollante incident otherwise.
The King of the Monsters
MemberMothra LarvaeMay-03-2015 7:17 PM^ This
"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla
Danzilla93
MemberBaragonMay-03-2015 10:06 PMWell said, TheGman123! I sometimes think I'm the only one who figured that out! XD All I've heard from people for years is "why do they remember Godzilla if they removed him from history?", when the answer is obveously THEY DIDN'T! Glad someone else gets it. :)
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G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMay-03-2015 10:38 PM"Watching Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla last night, I realized two problems"
Only two?
Seriously though, I'm glad other members beat me to it and they understand it. For more about how the timeline still makes sense I'll direct you to the original article:
Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah: Time Travel and the Origins of Godzilla
wolfguy
MemberMothra LarvaeMay-03-2015 11:13 PMAll of that.... OR! You could just mark it off as terrible writing. Good thing there are dilligent fans to make sense of paid writers non-sensical story-lines.
G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMay-03-2015 11:28 PMWolfguy,
Both Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah and Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla are poorly written, yes. But the above isn't fan speculation-- The fact that fans have to explain it just shows how poorly they got these ideas across...
Durp004
MemberBaragonMay-04-2015 4:43 AMReally don't understand how this is such a confusing concept to some people, even when I was around 9 watching these movies I understood the story, it was pretty clear by the fact Godzilla was already Godzilla, and not a half dead Godzillasaurus before the nuclear sub in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah even reached him.
KaijuFall3
MemberBaragonMay-04-2015 5:34 AM...thinking...hurt..head
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MemberGiganMay-04-2015 2:22 PM@TheGMan123,
Well said! :)
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MechaGoji-175
MemberMothra LarvaeMay-05-2015 11:50 PMAll of thoughs OR....the mothra thing.for a clone Spacegodzilla is stronger than godzilla right. Maby Spacegodzilla is more powerful beca,use he had more exposure to radiation exposuure than godzilla. if we give Godzilla more radiation he will get more powerful or "evolve" into some thing like ...Supergodzilla. Spacegodzilla, Supergodzilla see what i mean. So it could be eather or the spacegodzilla beeing more evolved than Godzilla could just be My "Fan Fiction" .So the origen of Spacegodzilla is all up to the vewer. :)
Durp004
MemberBaragonMay-06-2015 5:00 AMWhen you give Godzilla more radiation he becomes Burning Godzilla and starts to melt down. The movie after Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla showed when the uranium deposits ignited and blew up Birth island he came back in a meltdown form.
So in a way he became superGodzilla-ish you could say....
