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Why do people always think Destroyah is powerful

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godzilla200010

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-04-2015 5:40 AM

I really don’t get why people think Destroyah is such a powerful kaiju. (This is not meant to be an insult to anyone who likes Destroyah and this not made to start a flame war)

  1. The most damage he ever dose to Godzilla is just scratch him with his horn laser and never even gets him near death.
  2. The only kaiju he ever killed was a baby Godzilla. Nothing impressive there.
  3. Just because he’s big doesn’t mean he’s powerful.
  4. His name just doesn’t make him automatically powerful.
  5. The games aren’t cannon.
  6. He dies from the military.
  7. Godzilla dying has nothing to do with Destroyah.  
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TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusMay-04-2015 5:50 AM

Time to answer your request then!

1. He cut through Burning Godzilla's shoulder with his horn laser. Not scratch, cut. Plus, his Micro-Oxygen Beam managed to do some serious damage to Burning Godzilla, the strongest form of them all.

2. Just because you didn't kill too many things doesn't mean you're not powerful. Take Vegeta and Nappa, for example. Vegeta is clearly more powerful than Nappa, but Nappa killed more of the Z Warriors than Vegeta ever did.

3. Maybe not, but it certainly helps. He could drag around Godzilla like he was a toy.

4. Maybe not, but it certainly helps. A cool name is always the first step.

5. Okay, that's true. But there's more than enough evidence in the movie itself.

6. He died from military hardware designed specifically to kill him, after already being weakened by Burning Godzilla prior.

7. Destroyah is meant to invoke the very thing that killed the original, in a living form. Godzilla has become so powerful that it takes the living embodiement of the thing that killed his predecessor to stand up to him. Even then, we see that with such power, it's that same energy that does him in in the end.

The King of the Monsters

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-04-2015 6:12 AM

1. Destoroyah's laser horn katana literally sliced cleanly through Godzilla's flesh and cauterized the wound at the same time, leaving a massive scar. His micro-oxygen beam also knocked Godzilla over multiple times. Not to mention Destoroyah is also the only kaiju to really hurt Godzilla emotionally by killing Junior (SpaceGodzilla kidnapped Junior, but even he didn't kill him).

2. Junior demonstrated that he was a capable combatant when he took on Destoroyah's weaker form. Junior also wasn't a baby, he was a sub-adult. And when Destoroyah reached his full form, he killed Junior easily without taking any damage or expending any effort. That definitely counts for something.

3. He's big enough to tower over Godzilla and drag him across Tokyo using his tail. Being big doesn't automatically make him powerful, but it helps.

4. It's still badass.

5. The games are canon, just not with the films. The games are officially licensed pieces of media approved by Toho. The video game incarnation of Destoroyah is still an official canonical appearance.

6. Destoroyah died from a combination of Burning Godzilla and the military. The military exploited Destoroyah's sole weakness, extreme temperature. But all the military did was freeze Destoroyah's wings and send him falling to the ground. Godzilla superheated the ground by standing still, making Destoroyah evaporate from the extreme temperatures when he hit the ground.

7. No, but it goes to show that it took Godzilla in a state that was so powerful it eventually killed him to beat Destoroyah, and even then he was barely able to.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

GG

ModeratorGiganMay-04-2015 6:16 AM

I literally don't even need to say anything at all.

these two above me said anything i would have said (TheGman awesome DBZ reference.)

Good grief.

Therizinosaurus Rex(aka Kaijusaurs)

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-04-2015 6:16 AM

Therizinosaurus for JW2!

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusMay-04-2015 7:00 AM

Since most of th arguments I wanted to make were already made, I'll just say this. He was mutated/born from the same weapon that killed the original Godzilla. Destoroyah was mutated from the Oxygen Destroyer, the weapon that turned the original Godzilla to bones. Plus Desstoroyah took on Godzilla's Red Atomic Ray, one of the more powerful forms of the Ray. He even withstood the Spiral Atomic Ray (well...more than the other monsters on the recieving end of it).

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusMay-04-2015 7:10 AM

And he wasn't fighting Godzilla. He was fighting Burning Godzilla. Godzilla had absorbed a lot of nuclear energy, mutating him into a super monster, the likes of which the world has never seen. Burning Godzilla was far more powerful than he could ever be as normal Godzilla. Destoroyah was able hold its own against what could be called a literal hell on earth.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

Durp004

MemberBaragonMay-04-2015 8:09 AM

Just to add on Burning Godzilla was losing to Destoroyah till he reached critical levels which is essentially the pinnacle of what his body could handle as evident by his spikes melting at that point and the heat actually becoming visible. So not only did Destoroyah fight Burning Godzilla he did very well up until Godzilla started to meltdown. He also tanked more spiral rays than any other monster by a long shot, and appeared to have healing on a level close to Godzilla's. 

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonMay-04-2015 8:18 AM

Pretty much what gman123, the king of the monsters, and what Durp004 said. 

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godzilla200010

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-04-2015 11:30 AM

Ok so for those who say but the laser horn cut through one the wound is clearly a scratch and second nocking him over dos'nt mean it hurt. Also If destroyah can't get Godzilla neaetr death when he is dying and the easeist he has ever been to kill than you're not that tought. Now before you say he tyook the spiral death ray and survived oen just beacuse its redish orange dos'nt mean that's the death ray and two most kaiju died after mutible shoots of the death ray. It was jsut super amped up in final wars. So no buring goji was not the ultimate form of goji just beacuse of all the raiditio n he was giving off and about "He's the oxegen destroyer" but actually Destroyah is just a crwature that feeds of of thign like the O.D. Now the Oxegen destroyer it self would have actually killed Godzilla but Destroyah failed.

The King of the Monsters

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-04-2015 11:57 AM

Destoroyah's laser horn katana did not leave a scratch, it sliced through Godzilla like butter. The reason it left a closed scar was because it was so superheated that it completely cauterized the wound it left behind.

Destoroyah's beam obviously hurt Godzilla. He didn't just fall over from the force of the beam. When he was hit by it, he roared out and fell over in pain.

Even though Godzilla was dying, he was more powerful than he ever was before. The reason Godzilla was dying was because he had too much power for his body to handle, it doesn't mean he was any easier to kill. That Destoroyah was able to fight Godzilla in this state and actually be winning for a while is a testament to his strength.

Burning Godzilla's atomic breath is the spiral ray that Godzilla used to finish Super Mechagodzilla and SpaceGodzilla. It's a reddish-orange ray wrapped in a yellow spiral. As Burning Godzilla, Godzilla is so overloaded with power that the spiral ray becomes his default atomic breath. Destoroyah withstood multiple hits from this beam, which completely destroyed two of Godzilla's most powerful foes.

Burning Godzilla is the ultimate form of Godzilla (unless you count Super Godzilla from the SNES game). Burning Godzilla has more energy, his atomic breath is more powerful, and the heat he gives off can damage an opponent just by being near him. Burning Godzilla has enough power contained in his body to destroy at the very least the entire planet.

Destoroyah is the living Oxygen Destroyer, because his very bloodstream contains micro-oxygen, the primary component of the Oxygen Destroyer. His beam can eat through almost any matter. On the microscopic scale, Destoroyah can essentially convert water into Oxygen Destroyer, shown by what he did at the aquarium.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

Top Hat Gyaos

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-04-2015 12:07 PM

-GODZILLA200010

To contradict what you just said, the Red Spiral Ray was one of Goji's most powerful attacks in his arsenal. Look at Final Wars for example. It was enough to push Keizer Ghidorah, who is 100,000 pounds to the edge of the atmosphere and blow him up. To even lift the modern day 90,000 lb Godzilla from the ground would require 328 trillion PSI, as stated by the Godzilla vs. Gamera Death Battle. And again, the Heisei Mechagodzilla had his armor specifically designed to absorb Godzilla's standard atomic breath and transfer it to its Plasma Grenade, although the Spiral Ray decimated him in a few shots. Spacegodzilla had a little less luck, as he too exploded, and could only take 4 rays before finally succumbing. Now for Destroyah; it could tank several of Burning Goji's attacks while he was in his burning form. The only reason he was killed was because the military used extremely cold weapons against it, while trying to escape from Godzilla. He was also probably weakened from the extreme heat given off by the pre-meltdown, which was another apparent weakness.

Now for the wounds that it caused Godzilla. Its Katana horn clearly sliced through his shoulder and drew a spray of blood, which then quickly cauterized from the intense heat. And I don't know if this could be counted as canon in the film series, but if you remember the deleted scene Toho intended to put in the film with Destroyah's Floral Beam erupting from his chest, it could be seen that it knocked Godzilla over with little effort. I am sure that if it were used on the standard Godzilla, it would do serious damage. 

To put it all together, is Destroyah the toughest? It's up there with the other big league kaiju. But is he one of the most durable? Hell yes.

Be yourself, for everyone else is taken.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonMay-04-2015 2:08 PM

Question. Why won't you accept destroyah as one of the most powerful kaijus? You got to remember that destroyah was the product of Dr. Serizawas oxygen destroyer. The only weapon to really kill Godzilla without hesitation.

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Sci-Fi King25

MemberGiganMay-04-2015 2:19 PM

^I'm wondering the same thing.

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

NateZilla10000

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-04-2015 4:23 PM

It should also be said that Destoroyah was not specifically killed by the military.

 

The military definitely caused his death, but it was not their masers that killed him. The masers froze his wings, causing him to fall to his death.

 

It was gravity as well as his own mass that killed Destoroyah.

The King of the Monsters

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-04-2015 4:28 PM

Destoroyah's death was actually caused majorly in part by Godzilla. Godzilla stood still and superheated the ground as Destoroyah fell. When Destoroyah struck the ground, the extreme change in temperature from freezing cold to burning hot caused Destoroyah to disintegrate. So, it was really the joint effort of Godzilla and G-Force that killed Destoroyah.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

SapphireOverlord

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-04-2015 10:41 PM

Think about it this way, IF and this is a mighty big if, Destroyah's Horn Katana had periced Godzilla through an eye or even where is heart is, it would have been an instant kill regardless of Godzilla's regenration.  Since Godzilla was already dying, the reneration was already or near it limit.

The properties of the Oxygen Destoryer that Destroyah harnesses still have the same effects as the orginal weapon; Spliting Oxygen atoms into a fluid and then distingrates the molecules, and aspexiation and liquidifaction of the creature.  All living creatures have oxygen molecules in their bodies since it is a building block for all life.  Though it may not look like it, Destroyah's Horn Katana is doing some in real damage to Godzilla.  That white stuff ozzing from the scars?  Liquidfied oxgen.  Those slash marks have essentally destroyed the oxygen molecules in Godzilla's body to the point where rengeration cannont recover the damage.

This is one of the reasons why is Destroyah so dangerous.

Durp004

MemberBaragonMay-05-2015 5:41 AM

I feel like you're really downplaying what Destoroyah did. Here's an example with other monsters that are generally seen as strong to make them all seem overrated.

 

So what if Mechagodzilla made Godzilla gush out blood it was just flesh wounds and even with Titanosaurus he got beaten later on.

 

Sure it took 3 monsters to take Ghidorah but it's not like it was a close fight or anything the 3 monsters won super convincingly.

 

So what if Ghidorah knocked Godzilla over and was repeatedly stepping on him, he didn't look that injured.

 

Space Godzilla didn't even come close to killing Godzilla he just knocked him over and imprisoned little Godzilla not like Godzilla would die from that.

 

I could go on and on.

npinkham19

MemberMothra LarvaeMay-06-2015 3:02 PM

Of course if you take into account how powerful the spiral ray is Destroyah is powerful simply by resistsance but as for dealing damage blah. He's obviously meant to close the hesei series with a bang, he's made from the only thing that could ever stop Godzilla and think aout his appearance, horn, red, wings, yeah he's the devil cometo take Godzilla. I think they meant for him to be the biggest baddie but the fight in my opinion wa just awful, boring, went on too long and the fx were crap. Meanwhile within seconds of fighting Godzilla in her second form Biollante pierced through Godzilla's hand and shoulder than nearly ate him, not to mention she's completely immortal and Mechagodzilla 1993 did momentarily kill him.

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