Talkback #17: Godzilla vs. Biollante

GMAN2887 - This has to be one of my all-time favorite Godzilla films! Biollante was such an interesting monster - not just in appearance, but in story as well. I greatly enjoyed Godzilla's introductory scene in which he rises up form the volcanic depths into which he vanished in the Return of Godzilla! That scene always gives me goosebumps! :)

SOMETHING REAL- Hey Godzilla vs. Biollante is one of my favorite Godzilla movies too.

ULTRAZERO80 - How excellent! I have been a very large fan of Godzilla vs. Biollante since I was very little! The battles that took place were quite vicious - and surprisingly violent at certain points! I did not have Godzilla toys at that point, so I would pretend my My Little Pony dolls were various Kaiju battling it out for supremacy! :)

I believe this was one of my first Godzilla movies, about 4 years back. Biollante was always one of my favorites, because her backstory was unique compared to other kaiju, and her design was both superb and terrifying. While the movie did have some short fight scenes, it was definitely worth the wait. Besides, you can't blame the producers. :P A puppet that big could only be manned for so long, and it was 1989, so it was a bit more diffiicult than it was today.

Something Real - I remember trying to assemble a Lego variant of Biollante in her final form. It didn't come out that great. xD

Godzilla vs. Biollante is a singular entry in the Godzilla series.

It stands apart from other films through its score, its poetic feeling and the way it combines series themes (bio-engineering) with (sometimes) over-the-tip fun.

This Godzilla design, the Bio-Goji, is IMHO, one of the best of the entire series. The first appearance of this suit with the film’s title superimposed on it, which allows GvB to hit the ground running, so to speak, sets the tone for this adventure of a Godzilla film. And that’s what it is. There’s a lot going on here, criticized by some, but to this fan, it means that Godzilla vs. Biollante has all the virtues of its defects. It’s fun, but a cautionary at the same time. The visuals are stunning. It’s the apex of the Heisei films in terms of VFX. GvB is moody, almost plaintive at times. But it never lets you get too down due to the antics of Saradian agent SSS-9, some well-timed and placed sound effects and inspired dialogue (“Kiss, you guys!”)

Godzilla vs. Biollante encapsulates so much of what is great about this series of films.

The ‘Face-Off’ between Godzilla and Miki, the children at the psionic center holding up pictures of who they dreamed about the night before, Colonel Goro Gondo, all help to make Godzilla vs. Biollante memorable, a beloved entry in the canon.

I first saw Godzilla vs. Biollante in the early 1990's, renting it from Blockbuster. In fact, I used rent it continuosly. I was hoping that they would eventually just let me buy it from them for some nominal fee.

Anyway, I grew to love it, and still do. I thought the dub was very well done, and was pleased that the film was intact. I love the end credits with the rose suspended in the sky, and I'm a big fan of Koichi Sugiyama's score.

("Kiss, you guys!")

It's things like this that nearly bump it out of the top 10 for me. But I think it's still in there.

I tend to flip-flop over how great it is. Sometimes it really clicks and other times I feel like it missed the mark too many times. Overall I still agree it's probably one of the top best between the 80s to present.

Then there's the score, especially pieces like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v31BAbudHC0&index=9&list=PL8sOCVIcXiDTcHRVYtJn3UBJqp90Tarv9

It's so beautiful, that it compensates for a lot of shortcomings, like the aforementioned line after the shoot out.

This selection, called "Asuka," which seems to find it's way to the story when she's on the screen, is the one that most comes to mind when I think of Godzilla vs. Biollante.

And this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA_R52-zAoQ&list=PL8sOCVIcXiDTcHRVYtJn3UBJqp90Tarv9&index=1

And this line: "It's that Saradian agent again!"

I love this film.

This has to be one of my all-time favorite Movie.

After doing live commentary on Twitter Sunday night about this film, I can honestly say it's just up there in the top 10. Koichi Kawakita put a lot of his heart into this film. It's story is excellent, the characters are good, the special effects are Koichi Kawakitas best. I feel so sorry for him after the movie didn't succeed like he had hoped at the box office. I don't blame his work later on, I blame the problem he developed. It really put a hurt on him mentally and physically. 

Biollante is just 1 film that holds higher than the 90's Godzilla films. To me it's the best of the heisei series but, barely above the return of Godzilla 84'. Everything Jamaal has said I agree with. It's a film that can be watched over and over. Great film.

G-Man haha it's hard for a Godzilla film to not miss the mark in some points, but that's why they're so great!

Godzilla vs Biollante is an all time classic I really do love it and Godzillas design, great film.

I don't know what carries Godzilla vs Biollante more, the story characters or effects.

The story is a new take focusing more on the g cells than Godzilla and what the world will do just for a taste of that power. Bombings, spies, assassinations, releasing an unstoppable monster. The powers at be are willing to do anything to get this power. Starting out as what could be a very great cause of making invironment immune plants turns into weapons that can erase nuclear powers, and a monster that might even be more powerful that Godzilla himself. The way the world acts around an imprisoned but very alive Godzilla is a nice look. The warning system, the fact that they country actually tries to do something the second a warning goes off rather than brushing it off as a fluke. Having a group in charge of monitoring him, which finds that job tedious and boring. There are so many little things in this movie to hold it up. One clear thing I always remember is the fact Kazuhito and Asuka are eating at a nice restaurant with a Godzilla footprint bashed through the ceiling. Everything in that is amazing. The discussion they have, the fact a place would definitely try to monoplize on the fact Godzilla went through there. 

The characters

Shiragami the selfish old scientist. He's not rightous, he had no interest in helping japan or stopping Godzilla he did everything in the movie to perserve the memory of his daughter. This makes him incredibly fun to follow, he doesn't really apologize or see fault in this creation until he sees Erika's soul getting overwhelmed by the monster Biollante is turning into. Everything he had done up till that point was for her, to even keep her around in the slightest, and when he sees that he regrets it. This is what makes the character. He didn't just suddenly think the idea was bad because, and no one convinced him he was wrong it was seeing the torture from the person he did that all for that changed him.

Kazuhito a great opposite of Shiragami. The young ethics driven scientist that wants to change the world the right way. He obviously still has lots to learn as evident by Shiragami telling him something along the lines of him not understanding science.

Gondo is just so fun to watch throwing jabs everywhere he can. Can't think of any other character badass enough to shoot Godzilla in the mouth point blank with no protection and give him a one liner.

To say Godzilla vs Biollante is the best in effects in heisei is somewhat lowballing the movie. I think it could easily stand against any movie in the series in terms of FX. Biollante looks great in both forms, the vein work is well done, and the Biogoji influenced the look of the whole heisei era which has become one of the most iconic Godzilla looks.

I watched this movie recently.  Rose Biollante was really creepy!

I don't know what carries Godzilla vs Biollante more, the story characters or effects.

Great post Durpoo4.

A rose.

That the focus in this film, and the 'other kaiju,' is a rose, I just found that fascinating. Pretty bold concept. And then, to actually film it. Not to mention that Biollante is one of the most original and intersting minsters in the Series. Even in Giant Rose Form, Biollante is a character. And it's beautiful and scary at the same time. There's a theme of duality that runs throughout the entire story.

And yes: a Godzilla Memorial Lounge from the year 1985 and the continuation from the events of that year lend a sense of actuality to the film. Which is ironic as the events and characters in the story are most improbable. And then, an alarm system, with gradually increasing levels of urgency. This, was a great idea. The alarm system does make a lot of sense. Kind of like the Godzilla Prediction Network.

I watched Godzilla vs. Biollante last night and enjoyed it immensely.

"Biollante is a character. And it's beautiful and scary at the same time"

Yes they did a great job of showing genetic engineering within the monster. Has great concepts and could really help out, but also has the chance to be used in wrongly. Biollante has the perfect look for a mutation of gene splicing. 3 different aspects all fighting for supremacy in that body, and as the human side loses out to the monster that beauty disappears and is replaced. As a rose Biollante looked like a giant plant with almost a humanlike silhouette, but as she continued to mutate and the monster side takes over when she reappears any resemblence to a human is gone, both in look and spiritually. This is why it's okay that Shiragami took so long to see his fault. Erika was still there in the rose. She was even crying in in the first form of Biollante, but when it came back she was nowhere to be found, only breaking free after the monster beats Godzilla and moves on. After that he sees what he did, a move that was so driven by love only cost her sorrow. 

BATTRA - Hahaha! It is the thought the counts! I am sure Godzilla would approve of your homage! ;)

"G-Man haha it's hard for a Godzilla film to not miss the mark in some points, but that's why they're so great!"

I'm not entirely sure what this is supposed to mean, but what I can disect out of it I don't agree with. I don't think missing the mark is why they're (or any movie is) great. There have been plenty of Godzilla movies that have been on the mark with their own storytelling and consistancy. I think Godzilla vs. Biollante sometimes has enough sticking out that pulls it back from really being a classic, as you put it.

Regardless, I'll concede to calling it a pretty great movie in general.

^Well I was really talking about other films not exactly Biollante. I agree that it has some flaws like almost all Godzilla film's do, but out of the rest I believe it has the least besides 54 and some of the early Showa.

Definitely the tightest of the Heisei.

I don't know if it has the least besides what you mentioned, but even then I don't think the number of flaws is what really matters. It's how far they stick out. And honestly, very few things stick out as far as the absolutely abysmal engrish in the film. I can forgive it, but I can't keep it from taking me completely out of the movie.