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The Hooded Figure

MemberTitanosaurusJun-11-2017 4:57 PM

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MemberGiganJun-11-2017 5:24 PM

Concur.

"Part of the journey is the end..."

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusJun-11-2017 5:30 PM

I'd say one of the most debated things is whether or not Hollywood is fit to create Godzilla movies.

Ultrazero80

MemberTitanosaurusJun-11-2017 5:31 PM

My most debated thing is whether or not Shin Godzilla is Godzilla or just another GINO, (I think it's Godzilla.)

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Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJun-11-2017 5:33 PM

The thing about King Kong vs Godzilla 62 is, Toho declared Kong the winner. Of course, the original Japanese version and the American version have the same ending with Kong emerging from the ocean and swimming back home. The one thing that IS different between the two, is that in the American version, Kong lets out a seemingly victorious roar as proof as the winner, while the original Japanese version, you hear Godzilla let out a roar while Kong is swimming away back home and then followed by Kong's roar. 

I think the main thing to Kong vs Godzilla 62 to remember is that Eiji Tsuburaya was heavily influenced by King Kong 1933 to make movies. So, if he decided he wanted Kong to win, it's only fitting for it to seem that way. 

As for what I feel like may be the most debated conflict in the fanbase is probably going to be which series is the best. I'll stand by the Showa era. 

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Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJun-11-2017 5:36 PM

@dragon king ultra,

If it has maple leaf like dorsal fins, fires a devastating atomic ray, looks and feels like Godzilla, represents some of the troubled times in Japan, it's Godzilla. 

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Ultrazero80

MemberTitanosaurusJun-11-2017 5:39 PM

Huge-Ben- I know, but some people say it's GINO because of the new origins and powers.

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Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonJun-11-2017 5:50 PM

^

And it's entirely hypocritical on their part. No one complains about the origin changes and the new abilities that the heisei Godzilla has because to them, it's still Godzilla. I mean, we look into the heisei series, futurians travel to the year 1992 to get rid of Godzilla from history, which dates back to 1954 based on Terasawa's book "the birth of Godzilla."

We go back to 1944 to stop a dinosaur species dubbed godzillasaurus, from turning into Godzilla in 1954. When we return to 1992 after teleporting the dinosaur off of Rogos island, it's believed Godzilla had vanished, which in reality he never did. 54 still happens because it's the original and a different animal. That's also why everyone still knows who Godzilla is. Terasawa found out he was wrong after discovering an article about a 70's sub sinking that mutated the dinosaur into the heisei Godzilla that attacked in 1984. Everything from 55-75 is ignored in the heisei timeline. 

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Ultrazero80

MemberTitanosaurusJun-11-2017 5:55 PM

They are pretty hypocritical.

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Kaiju-Man257

MemberBaragonJun-11-2017 6:19 PM

I'd say the everlasting debate of Godzilla 2014 VS Shin Godzilla, as in which movie and Godzilla is better.

"Is that a monkey?"

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-11-2017 8:46 PM

^The Shin Godzilla vs. Godzilla'14 debates will die down. I don't think that debate will last into the next decade, if even the next 5 years. It's certainly not going to be as widely remembered of an argument as the victor of King Kong vs. Godzilla--Which 55 years later is still being discussed.

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Ultrazero80

MemberTitanosaurusJun-11-2017 9:24 PM

Gman- I'm still amazed that people are still arguing about who the winner was.

Godzilla... Truly a God incarnate.

The Hooded Figure

MemberTitanosaurusJun-11-2017 9:32 PM

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Ultrazero80

MemberTitanosaurusJun-11-2017 9:35 PM

I know.

Godzilla... Truly a God incarnate.

The King of the Monsters

MemberBaragonJun-11-2017 9:39 PM

The King Kong vs. Godzilla debate is something that will probably never be resolved within the fanbase, even though it is absolutely clear the intent of the film was for Kong to win. Toho themselves are guilty of this, as Tomoyuki Tanaka retroactively declared the fight between Kong and Godzilla to be a draw in his Definitive Godzilla Introduction book. (Tanaka's fight record for Godzilla in the book is extremely generous by the way, right down to declaring his final battle with Biollante to be a victory, when it was a draw at best.)

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The Hooded Figure

MemberTitanosaurusJun-11-2017 9:41 PM

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Ultrazero80

MemberTitanosaurusJun-11-2017 9:43 PM

I prefer the fight to be a draw.

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Im Durp

MemberBaragonJun-11-2017 11:14 PM

I was going to say people's opinion on different eras, but I guess it may be the King Kong vs Godzilla ending.

 

I think it's fine, even like the movie more because it's the only matchup movie that doesn't leave it ambiguous and declares a winner so mad props to toho for that.

Kaiju-Man257

MemberBaragonJun-12-2017 12:24 PM

Godzilla VS Gamera is also a big one.

"Is that a monkey?"

The Hooded Figure

MemberTitanosaurusJun-12-2017 12:32 PM

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EmptyH

MemberBaragonJun-12-2017 5:13 PM

When people try to say Godzilla vs. Hedorah isn't a good movie.

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-12-2017 5:21 PM

^To be fair, that's my largest internal debate about the whole franchise. I argue with myself about that film more than anything else in the series.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

I Meme Everything

MemberGiganJun-14-2017 12:27 PM

Kong winning is BS.

"Part of the journey is the end..."

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-14-2017 2:19 PM

^Whelp, I guess DT just proved our point.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

I Meme Everything

MemberGiganJun-14-2017 2:45 PM

^XD

"Part of the journey is the end..."

EmptyH

MemberBaragonJun-14-2017 4:19 PM

My thinking was the movie ended in a tie, as Godzilla lives in the water and thus is quite okay going back down to where ever he sleeps. I could even see it as a win for Godzilla since Kong leaves in the end.

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