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Are there more movies after Godzilla vs Kong in this Monsterverse ? Your thoughts.

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Mitesh D

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-13-2018 12:15 PM

 Hey guys, after Godzilla vs Kong (2020) there are not other movies in production  and we don't this amazing monsterverse to finish this quickly. 
What do you think we may get after that ? 
Your thoughts ?

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaAug-13-2018 3:46 PM

It depends on two factors:

1) How well Godzilla: King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs. Kong do at the box office. These films are being pumped out quite close to each other--If Godzilla: King of the Monsters fails, then it will be too late to back down from Godzilla vs. Kong because it will be in the middle of post-production by then. Both need to be definite successes and they likely need to make much more money than Godzilla '14 and Kong: Skull Island.

2) It's also up to Toho. The deal between Toho and Legendary expires in 2020--This is one reason why Legendary is in such a rush to shoot Godzilla vs. Kong and get it released.

The deal between Toho and Legendary dictates that two live action Godzilla movies can not be in production at the same time. That's why we haven't seen another live action movie out of Toho since Shin Godzilla. We know Toho wants to make their own Godzilla-verse, so they may not want to renegotiate their contract with Legendary.

If Toho does allow Legendary to continue making movies with Godzilla, Toho will likely raise the price--Especially if Godzilla: King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs. Kong do well. And even then, I bet the deal will be altered to where Toho gets to make the Godzilla movies they want to make.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

MotherStarViras

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-13-2018 5:17 PM

I think if these next two entries are overwhelming box office home runs, I think there will be more films. Now touching on what Gman said, I think Toho will renegotiate a higher fee, But if these movies are done right that fee will pay for itself. Simply put, If these next movies do well, There is a strong possibility that the Monsterverse will continue until the money stops.

MinecraftDinoKaiju

MemberTitanosaurusAug-13-2018 7:28 PM

"There is a strong possibility that the Monsterverse will continue until the money stops."

In other words, what I would like to call "the Destroy All Monsters [D.A.M.] effect", in which they make so much money with GKOTM & GvK that they make more that are worse until no more movies. Right?

The Legend of Brian

MemberBaragonAug-13-2018 11:55 PM

As enthusiastic as I am, it's going to take a lot of hoop jumping to go beyond Godzilla vs. Kong. KotM has to go up against Avengers 4, sure it'll be a month old by then, but it's the follow-up to possibly the biggest Marvel movie ever. Then Disney still has the Aladdin remake scheduled for a week before and that 90's nostalgia will put butts in seats regardless of quality.

Now I'm certainly more confident with the trailer being out and the reaction from more general audiences being overwhelmingly positive to it. It'll be a wait and see type of deal. KotM can crush it, or be a total flop. I think Godzilla vs. Kong will do well regardless on just the fact it's Godzilla "fighting" King Kong.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaAug-14-2018 9:01 AM

To be fair, according to IMAX reports, Avengers 4 is moving up into April. So it will be even further removed from Godzilla. I'm far more concerned about Aladdin.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

MotherStarViras

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-14-2018 10:28 AM

 @MinecraftDinoKaiju I don't really see the movies being gradually worse if they continue, Just "That one" that will bomb because giant monster movies will reach their fatigue factor with western audiences.

The Legend of Brian

MemberBaragonAug-14-2018 7:02 PM

True Gman, though it'll still pull in good numbers if Black Panther and Infinity War are anything to go by. 

I agree Aladdin will be the biggest threat, though with the controversy with the casting of Naomi Scott as Jasmin and the apparent "darkening" of extras, I wouldn't be surprised if it brings in less than say Beauty and the Beast. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if it pulls in the same numbers or better. 

I'm going to guess KotM will do better than say PR: Uprising, but unfortunately, I don't think it'll do as well domestically as 2014 did. 

Mitesh D

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-15-2018 3:16 AM

Wow !!! that was quite an informative session you guys, I couldn't have possibly imagined a response like this...thisss was really nice. 

Thanks to @G. H. (Gman) , @MotherStarViras,  @MinecraftDinoKaiju ,@The Legend of Brian , for this amazing discussion. 

MinecraftDinoKaiju

MemberTitanosaurusAug-15-2018 9:48 AM

You're welcome, @Mitesh D.

Reptilicus

MemberMothra LarvaeAug-26-2018 8:23 PM

Given the competition in 2019, GKOTM does definitely have a chance. Expecting around 600-700 million.

GvK doesn't really have much competition. There is an unnamed Marvel movie on the 1st, but I think that is too far away for it to be affected. Maleficent 2 will definitely be a competitor as it releases 5 days after GvK. Nonetheless, I expect 800 million.

Given this, I think the Monsterverse will continue, but when it comes to specifically Godzilla movies, we may have to wait. Toho doesn't want their movies overshadowed by a possible Monsterverse film coming out that same year. I expect them to get the rights to Godzilla for a few years (say 5) before giving them back to Legendary. In this time, Toho will pump out G-films while Legendary can make Kong 2, and solo films.

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