Godzilla: The Planet Eater is Out on Netflix5,693 Views22 RepliesAdd A Reply
Hey everyone, Godzilla: The Planet Eater is now out on Netflix for the whole world to watch!
The final installment in the anime trilogy is upon us, and it....... is certainly something. What I will say is that I can tell it won't be for most people, but I enjoyed it.
Watching it today
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Like I said, it won't be for most people.
If you haven't liked how the trilogy has been executed before this entry, the movie likely won't convince you otherwise.
I like the anime trilogy. It gives a nice spin of the "Traditionalism" of most other Godzilla movies. So I think I will like the Planet Eater.
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I thought the third was the best of the series. I was interesting to say the least. I thought the did the fight well for Godzilla Earth and Ghidorah, given their characteristics. I like all the easter eggs in it too. Especially...well I can't say because spoilers.
Wow, so Planet Eater is easily the best out of the three in my opinion with Planet of Monsters in 2nd, and City on The Edge of Battle in 3rd. This one just did everything right in my opinion, I loved the drama between Haruo, and Metphis, and I loved the utter hoplessness that came with Godzilla fighting Ghidorah. Without spoiling anything, it was a great movie, and was a delightful send off to an otherwise interesting universe. Hopefully we get a prequel movie to tell the events of the books because that would be awesome.
For me it just kinda is what it is. I actively look for the best out of even Godzilla movies I don't really care for, and as a practicing man of faith I didn't even mind the actively anti-religious messaging because honestly the Exif (SPOILERS**************) are not representative of a real faith but rather a dangerous cult, but the movie was just so ponderous and pretentious it got exhausting to hold out until the end. I knew from word of mouth from my friends in Tokyo that it wasn't going to be a masterpiece, but I still had hoped it would end stronger.
The positives are that the animation improved a lot since the first, the drama was stronger and they pushed some boundaries no other films in the franchise had (sex and pregnancy have never been handled in a Japanese Godzilla film before), but I'm just not enchanted with the anime in the end. As I've said before, I hope Toho tries the animation route again and next time does it a lot better.
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The religious themes are two-sided, from what I could discern. The Exif represent the negative qualities of blind faith and giving into desperation. The Hotua, however, show great compassion and a more ascetic lifestyle through their worship of Mothra.
Fair point, hadn't thought of that angle after only a single viewing. There's a lot of dialog in these films and I've found it worthwhile to run through each film over again before the follow up to digest them a little deeper. It did prove to be more satisfying to go back and watch the first two knowing ahead of time that Metphies meant Ghidorah every time he mentioned God, clarified a lot of moments.
I want to marathon the whole trilogy before I come to a final conclusion, but I understand now that the point of the anime is less about Godzilla and more about Haruo coming to terms with his anger and letting go of his hatred for Godzilla. Godzilla is more a back-drop or symbol than anything else, so while the anime films might not be the best films as Godzilla films, they may be better films just as stand-alone science fiction drama.
I won't spoil it for anyone but the ending is actually very touching and very sad, which surprised me because up until the third film I hadn't really felt much towards the characters. I had really only liked and being interested in Metphies and the Bilusulado characters but Haruo's arc did seem to come completely to a satisfying conclusion.
I was not a fan of the first one to be honest, it really dragged and the characters weren't all that appealing. I don't have any issue about any take on Godzilla. But whatever take you want, it has to be told well. And the first one just wasn't told well to capture the audience attention. The second was marginally better, but I wouldn't put it in the "good" category. The final one...shrugs, we'll see.
Some minor spoilers, but nothing too big. It's just hard to talk about these films without mentioning a few things.
I actually quite enjoyed it and agree with those who call this one the strongest. The anime movies don't function all that well as films, but I applaud how experimental they are and how they have the balls to explore some very hard, uncomfortable themes.
It's interesting how each monster represents a god to certain people and have religions/cults built around them. One of my favorite things about the second movie was how hypocritical the Bilusaludo were toward the Exif. They mocked the Exif for their religion, but really the Bilusaludo's religion was the worship of their technology/nano-metal/MechaGodzilla--It was no different. They were just blind to it.
By the third movie it's clear that the Exif act more as a cult than a religion, but I suppose it's still worth exploring when you compare them to the benevolent Houtua. Godzilla, MechaGodzilla and King Ghidorah were all perceived as gods or worshiped out of arrogance and fear. Mothra is the only one worshiped because the Houtua trust her and find comfort in her. She's not being used to justify negative attributes--Like Haruo's hatred, the Bilusaludo's arrogance and the Exif's cultural beliefs.
In fact Mothra's existence did the one thing humanity has always needed to understand each other better--Help the Houtua communicate better. She was the antithesis of all of these 'gods' and unlike Godzilla, MechaGodzilla [City] and King Ghidorah, she never got physically involved. She was somehow above all of that.
So while the films aren't particularly great, I think they bring up a lot of interesting topics worth talking about that the franchise has never touched on before. Thematically, they give us more to chew on than anything the Monsterverse is bringing to the table.
Just finished the movie a few minutes ago. While I would put the first 2 films on the bottom half of Godzilla films overall, I would actually put this 3rd film in the top half. It has an interesting human plot and, like you said, gives us more to chew on. Also, I could actually stand and maybe even liked the main character this time.
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Haruo started becoming more likeable during the second movie, though I admit I was grading him on a curve for both parts 2 and 3.
Major spoiler here, but what blew my mind was his decision by the end of the third movie. While it doesn't really work on a practical level - he left his unborn child behind and we're supposed to assume his sacrifice means no one else held ill will against Godzilla - it really sings as a symbolic gesture.
The Houtua had no word for "hate", but Haruo carried a sense of aggression and hatred with him that couldn't exist if humanity were to move on. King Ghidorah was a physical manifestation of his hatred and the nanometal was the remnants of Bilusaludo arrogance. In ridding the Houtua of himself, Godzilla finally ended his reign as the "God of Destruction". He had already remade the world in his image and the Houtua had learned to co-exist with him. So with Haruo's death he really did become just like a tornado or lightning. (As one of the Mothra twins said.)
Additionally, King Ghidorah would no longer return and the nanometal had been destroyed. This could be viewed as anti-progressive, but I tend to see it as progression of another kind. It turns out Mothra may be the only real god(ess) in this universe afterall--And a good one that encourages communication and removes hate from the vocabulary. Haruo would've infected that vernacular.
It's idealistic, but shockingly admirable. Planet Eater isn't the first story I've seen to suggest removing aggressive heroes that threaten peace. Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz also engages in the discussion of what to do with soldiers in a world that doesn't need them--Should peace exist.
It's not a perfectly thought out ideal, but it has merit and is worth discussing: Do soldiers like Haruo in Godzilla and Heero in Gundam exist merely to protect the more peaceful and benevolent until they're no longer needed? And what happens to them when they're recognized as an old breed of unnecessary aggression? Do they die? Do they leave? Do they try to find a new sense of meaning?
It's sort of a scary topic and I was in shock when The Planet Eater touched on it. If briefly.
What most people seem to be in agreement on for this movie, like it or not, is that the presentation of Ghidorah as a truly incomprehensible god that acts like a classic Lovecraftian entity.
His casual disregard for physics and cult-like inspiration is particularly creepy and unsettling.
Godzilla just doesn't feel like the type of film to be a good anime or cartoon kinda thing or at least that's what it feels like to me.
@G. H. (Gman) First just let me say I am not a Godzilla and watch this series from pure boredom.
As I read the ending is that in the 3rd movie it is revealed that the titular monster is nature's anti-body against the cancer that was humanity's reckless behavior and especially against nanometal.
Haruo and the others do integrate in the new peaceful life, but this won't last as long there are people who can start over the cycle of "progress" using nanometal. He seems to be the only one to realize this and decides to provide a future to his "children". That's why he uses Godzilla to destroy the last pieces of nano-metal. Ok, in the subtext you could argue that he is too nostalgic for the old world or maybe he only truly loved that infected girl (bit of a cliche, but that's it) to led her be disintegrated alone.
With Ghidorah still out there as an ever-present threat to existence, the door has been left open for Toho to return to this continuity should they ever decide they want to revisit and continue the story, maybe in the far flung future when the Houtua naturally advance into a more standard civilization.
Probably won't, but the possibility's there.
You're not wrong. The anime trilogy really hamfists the idea that all intelligent civilizations end up destroying themselves once a certain level of technology is reached. (The Exif with King Ghidorah.)
In humanity's case, they inadvertently create their own monsters. So from that point of view, Godzilla was a sort of anti-body--Although it doesn't quite explain why he killed off all the other monsters too. (Adam hypothesized all monsters were brought on for the same reason in this film.)
Metphies said that the only reason Godzilla was a "god" was because of fear and hatred, which King Ghidorah fed off of. Haruo understood this, so it wasn't just the nano-metal he was getting rid of, he was ridding the Houta of hatred (something they didn't have a word for) before it manifested into King Ghidorah again--Just as Metphies had warned.
G. H. (Gman) Well maybe this nature thing is more of a thing in Japan. I don't know if necessarily the thing that advanced technology leads to extinction, but the rather endless greed, hatred, etc. Maybe these are hints of Zen?
Japan has always been hyper-conscious of the nature vs. technology discussion. However, the idea that civilizations end up destroying themselves once a certain level of technology is reached is an extremely western philosophical/scientific take.
There's a theory known as The Great Filter theory which suggests - if it's ahead of us - we will hit a wall in which the evolutionary process fails to get beyond and the greatest likelihood is we destroy ourselves by our own devices. I don't know if the anime trilogy was hitting specifically on that, but it does establish instances of worlds and people that hit a wall and are ultimately destroyed.
More specifically, hyper advancement brings about monsters, and those monsters screw up the whole paradigm, thus "necessitating" a harvest by Ghidorah.
You know, it's kinda funny how, if Ghidorah had his way, Godzilla would've just been a particularly plump apple :P