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Strongest Incarnation of Ghidorah (SPOILERS)

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Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-06-2019 11:15 PM

Which Ghidorah incarnation do you believe is the strongest?

I would have to say Legendary. This is due to the fact that he survived the oxygen destroyer, has regenerative abilities, can harness electricity to intensify his powers, brings an intense storm with him anywhere he goes, and it took Fire Godzilla's Nuclear pulses literally disintegrating him to finish him off. And even after that his last head remaining was still alive while inside Godzilla's mouth!

There are also arguments for Showa Ghidorah being the strongest, like how it took 3 kaiju teaming up to take him down at once.

also for keizer Ghidorah, he was incredibly durable, and almost killed Godzilla easily.

and Death Ghidorah looks pretty powerful too, but he has never faced off against a real threat to him.

anyway, i leave it to you, which Ghidorah do you believe is the strongest?

Like i said, I have to go with Legendary Ghidorah.

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Im Durp

MemberBaragonJun-06-2019 11:39 PM

Anime>Keizer>Grand king ghidorah>legendary>heisei>showa

 

Assuming they are all kept to scale and not set on even size playing fields.

Jack.D

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-07-2019 4:39 AM

For me the anime version wasn't showed enough for counting it in, so My top is legendary>keiser>grand KG>heisei>showa

 

...yea i really liked the monsterverse version...

Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-07-2019 5:25 AM

Yeah, it isn't really fair to consider the anime version. It is way too op.

If i did a list like that, and included anime KG, it would go 

Anime>Legendary>Keizer>DesGhidorah>Grand King Ghidorah>Showa>Heisei

Yeah, I feel like Legendary Godzilla could handle any of the other Ghidorahs mentioned, except obviously anime Ghidorah. Anime Ghidorah would destroy any of the incarnations.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-07-2019 9:12 AM

"OP" or not, it's still a Ghidorah incarnation. No reason to not include it. But it's easily the most powerful of all Ghidorahs.

I probably agree most with Durp's list, and even then I don't think the Monsterverse and Heisei Ghidorahs would be all that far apart. The Monsterverse King Ghidorah didn't really "take" the nuclear pulse. It finished him off, so that's not exactly something I'd put to help out its argument.

Heisei King Ghidorah took a nuclear pulse at point blank range as well--He wasn't fine, but he certainly wasn't disintegrated.

Also, any Ghidorah that has issues hitting a hummer? I was getting GINO chasing the taxi flashbacks. That thing would been been eradicated without a thought in 1964.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusJun-07-2019 9:45 AM

At the same time, though, we can't equate Nuclear Pulses here.

The kinetic strength of Legendary Godzilla's breath is quite insane compared to most of his classical incarnations, only really potentially losing out to Final Wars's Godzilla.

Legendary Ghidorah took that without issue, mostly being pissed off more than anything. That is definitely more impressive that Heisei Ghidorah; he took his Godzilla's blasts well, but they didn't carry the kind of force that Legendary's does. Despite this, the Nuclear Pulse INSTANTLY burned up Ghidorah like it was nothing.

Legendary Ghidorah is also extremely physically strong, able to match Godzilla who can actually throw him off of himself without issue when the former doesn't resist it. This, combined with his speed and maneuverability of his necks, elevates his physicality a lot.

And then we come to the Gravity Beams. These things are going clean through buildings and pushing Godzilla around, no easy feat given he's almost 100k tons of angry muscle.

Given all this, I'm inclined to place Legendary Ghidorah above all other film versions besides Keizer Ghidorah, and that's only because FW amped up Godzilla and Ghidorah to crazy levels.

Skubyrustis

MemberBaragonJun-07-2019 10:03 AM

Yeah, I can agree with that to a certain extent TheGman123.

I haven't actually seen Final Wars yet, it is coming in the mail today though, so i have only seen clips, maybe i'll change my mind after seeing him in full action.

GG

ModeratorGiganJun-07-2019 12:02 PM

We also can't put Legendary Goji's nuclear pulse on the level of the average Heisei one--this pulse was obliterating everything in its vicinity and was unleashed by a full power, Mothra essence infused, Burning Godzilla. It was probably the strongest nuclear pulse ever that he utilized, and it still took two to disintegrate Ghidorah.

Good grief.

JHT

MemberBaragonJun-07-2019 4:35 PM

I say monsterverse Ghidorah to because of everything you said and also he can bite other monsters and drain/siphon their energy to weaken them while making himself stronger also he is the only version that could kill Godzilla earth in my opinion. Aside from anime Ghidorah of course.

Xerian

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-08-2019 10:18 PM

I agree with the trend here. I truly believe Legendary Ghidorah is the "King" of all Ghidorah incarnations if you don't include anime Ghidorah(which let's face it could likely kill Destoroyah, Hedorah, all incarnations of Mecha-Godzilla AND Legendary Ghidorah all at the same time in less than a few minutes). I'm not a huge fan of the anime but facts are facts. Anime Ghidorah is pretty much the top dog of any Toho kaiju ever conceived. He'd even punk out the mythical and legendary "Bagan"!. So I won't include him. While some may argue that Kaiser Ghidorah is the best, I would argue that Legendary basically had almost all his abilities, (and most other Ghidorah's abilities as well minus the literal anti gravity effect of Kaiser's Gravity Beams) effing Shrugged off...I repeat...SHRUGGED OFF the Oxygen Destroyer, regrew his missing  head in mere seconds (RIGHT AFTER tanking the O2 Destroyer mind you) And it basically took 2 BURNING GODZILLA nuclear pulses to finally end him. Even then, we see his final head was still alive before G disintegrates it. That tells me this KG has regen capabilities that dwarf all previous incarnations. Only Toho kaiju I could even compare this to would be GMK Godzilla who's regen was BEYOND OP. If you don't include anime Ghidorah, Legendary Ghidorah (IMHO before anyone get's their feathers ruffled) is pretty much an amalgamation King Ghidorah. Dougherty took all the best traits from previous Ghidorahs and put them into one. With that said, I STILL say the two most powerful kaiju EVER (and I speak strictly as fighting Godzilla 1v1 with no human or outside help) are Hedorah and Destoroyah. I know that in itself will be considered BLASPHEMY by many fans and again it's just my opinion but agree or not, I think ALL die-hard G fans can at least agree that they could understand WHY I consider them the top. So here is my Top in order as far as G's top 5 toughest opponents. Destoroyah(argue all you want about how the JSDF killed him. I don't care if BOZO THE CLOWN killed him. Godzilla in his STRONGEST FORM could not kill him and he tanked spiral beam after spiral beam. A shot that was the swan song for even Space Godzilla. Yes it badly injured him but it did not kill him. I'll make it short and sweet for Hedorah. Basically, Godzilla had no answer to him. Love the movie or hate it, Godzilla could do NOTHING to stop the Smog Monster. His Atomic breath was useless against him, his blood was sulfuric acid, Godzilla could not kill Hedorah and without human intervention, the best he would have ever gotten was a stale mate...meanwhile as Hedorah continued feeding on pollution and uniting with other Hedorahs until eventually, he'd be so big, Godzilla couldn't even fight him to a stalemate. I've already mentioned the reasons for legendary KG and everyone knows the reasons for Kaiser and Mecha-Godzilla. So I say Destoroyah > Hedorah > Legendary King Ghidorah > Mecha-Godzilla (any interation really but mostly Heisei as much as i despise him)>Kaiser Ghidorah.  I know many will strongly disagree and that's fine. It's MY opinion. So my final thoughts are basically, Legendary King Ghidorah is right up there with Godzilla's toughest opponents and I stand by that.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-09-2019 8:04 PM

I love how people are conveniently not including the anime King Ghidorah because how dare it interfere with putting their favorite Ghidorah in first.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusJun-10-2019 4:11 AM

Well, I mean, it's just obvious that he wins.

I've seen it done by a lot of Godzilla YouTubers as well. They just don't include him because he's radically different.

Im Durp

MemberBaragonJun-10-2019 7:44 AM

Then can we go over why Grand kind Ghidorah who fought Mothra Leo, one of the most OP kaiju ever, to his final form is lower than Legendary? I don't find a lot of the arguments about legendary being stronger that Keizer all that compelling looking at what Final Wars Godzilla was capable of and still lost to in a 1v1 but I haven't really seen 1 thing that says why he's better than Grand King Ghidorah that has all his powers and then some.

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusJun-10-2019 8:48 AM

I actually watched the 3rd Rebirth of Mothra film.

Grand King Ghidorah didn't come off all that impressive, nor did Armour Mothra really. No good destruction feats, no good feats against each other or other comparable monsters, nothing.

Limitations of the medium at the time and not going all the way like Final Wars did.

The Hooded Figure

MemberTitanosaurusJun-10-2019 9:09 AM

Anime Ghidorah.

Im Durp

MemberBaragonJun-10-2019 9:34 AM

I feel like there's a clear double standard here, saying grand king ghidorah has no notable destructive feats but legendary does, since almost all destruction caused by legendary ghidorah is due to the hurricane that surrounds it that as we see from mothra, rodan and godzilla has absolutely 0 effect on other monsters, and any gravity beam that was shot was not any more impressive than any past ghidorahs.

 

Meanwhile you have Mothra leo with multiple forms one of which can go through time it goes so fast, a form that allows him to split apart into small versions that can all beam spam and shields and beams for days and still needed to upgrade into a final form after fighting 2 previous monsters that were capable of wiping out humanity just like legendary king ghidorah. Sorry but to say meh not impressive and say legendary ghidorah is top dog is so skewed in one direction it's funny.

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusJun-10-2019 9:46 AM

Okay, first of all, we're not applying a double standard here. I'm going off of known feats against known quantities.

Second of all, have you actually analyzed the arguments and discussion?

I've done a lot to highlight why Legendary Ghidorah is so powerful. He has very prominent physical feats to go along with his size, like his speed and maneuverability in combat with his snake-like movements and ability to match Legendary Godzilla in strength. His beams also showcase immense power, being able to outright vaporize Humans, cleave clean through buildings without resistance, and physically push back Godzilla with their kinetic force.

Not to mention that he no-sells the powered up atomic breath that pushes around his 141,000 ton mass with relative ease and can easily burn through lesser Titans' flesh.

These are not only quantifiable, but based on analysis, more impressive than the feats I've seen out of Desghidorah and Grand King Ghidorah. Scaling to Mothra Leo is useless if the context for how his powers compare to other monsters is either applied in the wrong way or otherwise absent.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-10-2019 10:02 AM

Im Durp,
Don't bother. They're going to jump through every hoop imaginable for their latest and most "favoritest" and most hyped. This isn't anything new or surprising.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusJun-10-2019 10:09 AM

Don't misrepresent people like that, G. H. (Gman).

That's dishonest debating and overgeneralization of a frankly inaccurate reading of the situation.

I thought we were all supposed to be better than this.

I Meme Everything

MemberGiganJun-30-2019 7:56 PM

Anime Ghidorah can distort space, which none of the other versions of the character can do, so...

"Part of the journey is the end..."

Zombiezilla172Fans

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-20-2020 6:43 AM

Yeah obviously anime ghidorah wins but my list would be like this: 
Anime>Keizer>Grand>Monsterverse>Heisei>Desghidorah>Showa>GMK

Zombiezilla172Fans

MemberMothra LarvaeJun-20-2020 6:44 AM

Um sorry if I repeat it’s because when I pressed add reply it was taking a while to load so I done it again then it posted 2 comments now I can’t delete one of them

Xenotaris

MemberGiganJun-20-2020 8:56 AM

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MemberMothra LarvaeJun-20-2020 12:45 PM

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