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Commentary reveal: Why they killed off Vivienne Graham

Commentary reveal: Why they killed off Vivienne Graham

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Titan of Water

BaragonMember458 XPSep-29-2019 4:34 PM

They did it for a laugh.

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24 Responses to Commentary reveal: Why they killed off Vivienne Graham

Gmkgoji

RodanMember1789 XPSep-29-2019 4:39 PM

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?

Zwei Wing is the best singing duo. Change my mind.

Titan of Water

BaragonMember458 XPSep-29-2019 4:41 PM

Yes. They killed her for a cheap joke. Listen to the audio commentary if your in denial.

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Gmkgoji

RodanMember1789 XPSep-29-2019 4:43 PM

Wheres the audio commentary tho

Zwei Wing is the best singing duo. Change my mind.

Titan of Water

BaragonMember458 XPSep-29-2019 4:44 PM

In the special features of KOTM.

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Gmkgoji

RodanMember1789 XPSep-29-2019 5:16 PM

O

Zwei Wing is the best singing duo. Change my mind.

TheLazyFish

RodanMember1630 XPSep-29-2019 5:40 PM

Wow... how? What kind of laugh was that lol

If people weren't lazy, we wouldn't try to be efficient. If we weren't efficient, we'd never get anything done.

Titan of Water

BaragonMember458 XPSep-29-2019 5:43 PM

Michael Dougherty called it “black comedy”.

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Titan of Water

BaragonMember458 XPSep-29-2019 5:44 PM

The “joke” is along the lines of “ha ha you thought you were gonna see Sally Hawkins through the whole movie? Nope! We’ll kill her at the end of Act 1 and have her die in a comical manner by having her be eaten alive by Ghidorah.”

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Titan of Water

BaragonMember458 XPSep-29-2019 6:02 PM

Another reason was to show that no one is safe, but that doesn’t help much still knowing that part of the reason was for Lulz.

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TheLazyFish

RodanMember1630 XPSep-29-2019 6:07 PM

I absolutely LOVE black comedy... as long as it makes sense to me. Then again, I did chuckle a little in shock when that happened the first time I saw it... aw ****, is that a red flag? XD

So it was basically like Bryan Cranston in Godzilla 2014 except this time it was intentional? Because the whole Bryan Cranston  thing in the first one really made my mom angry, because he was the only reason she watched the movie... she doesn't like Kaiju movies or anything like that (Except the original King Kong) but loves Breaking Bad... She still won't let ME live that one down, for whatever reason lol

If people weren't lazy, we wouldn't try to be efficient. If we weren't efficient, we'd never get anything done.

Titan of Water

BaragonMember458 XPSep-29-2019 6:10 PM

Yep pretty much

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MinecraftDinoKaiju

TitanosaurusMember968 XPSep-29-2019 7:18 PM

Well then, isn't that just dumb? It just doesn't make any sense.

G. H. (Gman)

GodzillaAdmin5334 XPSep-29-2019 7:38 PMTeam Ghidorah

"Well then, isn't that just dumb? It just doesn't make any sense."

Hmm... Seems to be a reoccurring theme here...

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Titan of Water

BaragonMember458 XPSep-30-2019 1:54 PM

My twitter life after I revealed it on there 

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Xenotaris

GiganMember4251 XPSep-30-2019 2:18 PMTeam Mothra

Well anyone can die indeed, now I haven't seen any of the millennium godzilla movies yet or the rest of the Rebirth of Mothra trilogy but is this the first time Ghidorah ate a human?

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Titan of Water

BaragonMember458 XPSep-30-2019 2:24 PM

I think so yeah.

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MinecraftDinoKaiju

TitanosaurusMember968 XPSep-30-2019 2:49 PM

@Xenotaris

I have seen all of the Millennium movies and the entire Rebirth of Mothra trilogy, and I can 100% say for certain that if you don't count (Spoilers Ahead!) Grand King Ghidorah trapping kids in a life-sucking bubble in Rebirth of Mothra 3, then yes, Monsterverse Ghidorah is the first time a Ghidorah ate a human.

Xenotaris

GiganMember4251 XPSep-30-2019 3:29 PMTeam Mothra

well he isn't physically eating the children, so it doesn't quite count. Monsterverse Ghidorah is a true monster indeed

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MinecraftDinoKaiju

TitanosaurusMember968 XPSep-30-2019 3:48 PM

Indeed. Wished he wasn't introduced so early.

Shane Gilbert

Mothra LarvaeMember11 XPSep-02-2020 7:32 AM

Okay I don't want to be that guy but do y'all really think that Graham was actually chewed up? With the impact and force that Ghidorah was going for was not to pick her up with precision to chew her up, come on, she was most likely buried or fell off that 50 mile long ice, it's highly unlikely that she was chewed up along with it. 

G. H. (Gman)

GodzillaAdmin5334 XPSep-02-2020 10:58 AMTeam Ghidorah

Shane Gilbert,
I don't think the complaint is how she was eaten, but merely the carelessness regarding her death. "For a laugh," is a pretty bad reason to body a character we had some minor connection to based on the prior movie.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Gabriel Salomon

BaragonMember171 XPSep-02-2020 11:09 AM

G. H. (Gman)

Agreed, "carelessness" is the word I'd use, not "black humor." 

"What’s so great about discovery? It’s a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world."

— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

G. H. (Gman)

GodzillaAdmin5334 XPSep-02-2020 7:31 PMTeam Ghidorah

It was dumb and in poor taste both for her character and the overall narrative.

But, considering the movie in question...

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Gabriel Salomon

BaragonMember171 XPSep-03-2020 11:13 AM

I'd say I had no major connection to Graham to begin with simply because her role in the previous film was pretty small. That said, her character was likable enough and I really like Sally Hawkins as an actress; I feel like her character definitely had potential, which was essentially wasted when they killed her off. Even so, there could have been at least somewhat of an emotional impact among the other characters after her death, something that was pretty much nonexistent. The audience can't feel the emotion or urgency of a situation if the given characters don't feel it themselves.

"What’s so great about discovery? It’s a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world."

— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

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