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Why I Think Kong Should Win In Godzilla Vs Kong

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Gabriel Salomon

MemberBaragonFeb-24-2020 5:16 PM

For all lovers and rooters of Godzilla, bear with me; I have an insane love for the creature as well, and I do prefer him to Kong for a few personal reasons. However, this does not go without saying that I am rooting for him, because when it comes to whom I want to win in Godzilla vs Kong, I think Kong should come on top, and here’s why...

As many of you probably already know, GvK director Adam Wingard has confirmed that there is going to be a definite victor in the film, so it would seem a team up won’t be included in the movie (but I guess we can’t know for sure until the movie comes out). Now, if GvK were a standalone film, or the first in the franchise, I would actually be rooting for Godzilla. However, it’s neither of those, so I’m not. Let me explain why this effects how I believe the story should play out.

Every film is split into thirds: the first act, the second act, and the third act. Almost every Godzilla movie consists of at least two battles. The first and second fights are set in the first and second acts of the film, and they establish the feud between Godzilla and his enemy. The last battle is set in the third act of the film, which finishes the feud. Normally, the first battles are left ambiguous, or with a winner, and the last battle is finally taken by the other adversary. So far, Monsterverse Godzilla has won every end battle (the big battle) that he is in.

If you follow this format with the whole Monsterverse (not including Skull Island), the first two thirds belong to Godzilla. At the end of the first act (Godzilla 2014) he is the winner of the battle (with the MUTO’s), and in the second act (KotM), he is the winner of that battle (with Ghidorah), becoming king of the titans.

Now lets say Godzilla does win the last battle (GvK, or “the third act”). He will have won every fight in the whole story, meaning there will be no unpredictability or twists and turns. It will be the equivalent to the MUTO’s winning every battle in G14, or Ghidorah winning every battle in KotM. One of the great things about cinema is the surprises and development to the story. Godzilla winning every fight within the same universe would eventually get monotonous, and Kong winning would add spice and development to the Monsterverse.

Thanks for reading through this whole thing (if you did). Who do you think should win, and why?

 

"What’s so great about discovery? It’s a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world."

— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

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JurassicKaiju14

MemberTitanosaurusFeb-24-2020 5:22 PM

...I see your point. But I still kinda want Godzilla to win this one. On a franchise-wide level, Kong already beat Godzilla back in 1962. I mean, I'm not going to go insane of Kong beats him, but I'd still prefer it if Goji won.

But at the end of the day, I think I just want to see the two of them come to respect each other as worthy opponents and fellow Alphas, no matter who wins. Like if Godzilla wins, Kong still put up a good fight and Godzilla is impressed, and if Kong wins, Godzilla is still impressed and leaves Kong alone out of respect. Something like that.

EDIT: Also, we must consider the stakes of the fight. What will the outcome be if one of them wins? Godzilla's the current Alpha Titan, so what will that mean if Kong bests him?

A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.

Gabriel Salomon

MemberBaragonFeb-24-2020 5:47 PM

JurassicKaiju14

Also, we must consider the stakes of the fight. What will the outcome be if one of them wins? Godzilla's the current Alpha Titan, so what will that mean if Kong bests him?

I was going to put something on that in here, but I kind of felt like it belonged in a different discussion (oh well). 

I probably should have clarified that I don't want Kong to kill off Godzilla. Kong's motives might not be to become the new alpha titan of the earth. We haven't seen enough marketing to be sure, but Kong is very protective over his island, and he may see Godzilla as a threat to it. Kong is the alpha on Skull Island, and Godzilla very well could change that, as it seems the skull crawlers and other creatures on the island will bow down to him now, not Kong. 

Like you said, Kong and Godzilla could see eye-to-eye and respect each other, but in order for that to happen, Kong might have to beat Godzilla to show him that the island is his home, and it belongs to him. If Kong killed him, the earth would be overrun by monsters, so I don't think it's likely that will happen.

"What’s so great about discovery? It’s a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world."

— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

JurassicKaiju14

MemberTitanosaurusFeb-24-2020 6:54 PM

KingSalomonMMIV "I probably should have clarified that I don't want Kong to kill off Godzilla."

I don't want either of them to die. Glad I'm not the only one with that sentiment.

"Kong is very protective over his island, and he may see Godzilla as a threat to it. Kong is the alpha on Skull Island, and Godzilla very well could change that, as it seems the skull crawlers and other creatures on the island will bow down to him now, not Kong."

I think that's going to be his motivation too.

However, I don't think the final battle will take place on or over Skull Island. We know that there will be a battle in Hong Kong at some point, presumably later in the film.

Calling it now, Skull Island gets destroyed or something like that, and it takes Godzilla and Kong's rivalry to new levels.

A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.

Gabriel Salomon

MemberBaragonFeb-24-2020 7:05 PM

JurassicKaiju14

I don't think the final battle will take place on or over Skull Island. We know that there will be a battle in Hong Kong at some point, presumably later in the film.

Oh, the end battle will probably most deffinately be in Hong Kong. The first battle will probably be on Skull Island.

Calling it now, Skull Island gets destroyed or something like that, and it takes Godzilla and Kong's rivalry to new levels.

Ooh, I actually really like that theory!

"What’s so great about discovery? It’s a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world."

— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

JurassicKaiju14

MemberTitanosaurusFeb-24-2020 7:39 PM

KingSalomonMMIV "Ooh, I actually really like that theory!"

It'd add a bit of tragedy to the situation.

And if there's one thing that's almost a staple of Kong, it's tragedy. The tragedy of his home being soiled by outside invaders, and how he fell fighting against those same invaders.

A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.

Gmkgoji

MemberRodanFeb-24-2020 8:04 PM

While I don't want either to die (Seems like the general consensus) I still agree with you. Kong should win.

Zwei Wing is the best singing duo. Change my mind.

macumbalove

MemberBaragonFeb-24-2020 8:41 PM

LMAO! This site is getting just as dumb as Toho Kingdom. They have one shot to get this right,(They won't, But that's a different discussion) and if you piss off the Godzilla fans to "do something different" and cater to the 9 Kong fan boys, The monsterverse will end, And it will end badly. This is the only G forum I'm somewhat active on, And when I read the utter stupidity on here and other forums I can understand why the smart people say the fandom is garbage. It is full of socially deviant, overweight mouth breathers.

dk

MemberGodzillaFeb-24-2020 8:58 PM

It is a good point- Godzilla is the established KOTM right now. If he loses, the other creatures might feel emboldened to challenge the new King. I don't think Kong could handle that.

JurassicKaiju14

MemberTitanosaurusFeb-25-2020 4:24 AM

dk Titan Civil War, anyone?

A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.

JurassicKaiju14

MemberTitanosaurusFeb-25-2020 6:44 AM

macumbalove Hi. Little wake-up call here. Just because some people are rooting for Kong doesn't make them "socially deviant, overweight mouth breathers". It just means they have a different opinion. This isn't some big moral/ethical debate, it's a movie about a big gorilla fighting a radioactive dinosaur. People have the right to prefer one monster over the other if one works better for them.

And that's coming from a guy who's thoroughly #TeamGodzilla. I want to see my boy Goji win. But if he doesn't, I'm not gonna flip my lid over it. Because at the end of the day, it isn't anything to get seriously worked up over.

Take a chill pill.

A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.

dk

MemberGodzillaFeb-25-2020 7:14 AM

JurassicKaiju14  He's banned.

JurassicKaiju14

MemberTitanosaurusFeb-25-2020 7:16 AM

dk Wait, can they do that around here?

A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.

dantefrancis

MemberBaragonFeb-25-2020 8:02 AM

You do make a good reason.

JurassicKaiju14

MemberTitanosaurusFeb-25-2020 8:40 AM

dantefrancis He does make a pretty good case for Kong.

A true fan can acknowledge the bad while still appreciating and cherishing the good.

Gabriel Salomon

MemberBaragonFeb-25-2020 8:56 AM

dantefrancis

JurassicKaiju14

Thank you :)

"What’s so great about discovery? It’s a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world."

— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

MechaniKong1223

MemberBaragonFeb-25-2020 9:39 AM

I would like kong to win, but if he wins he should knock out godzilla.

Then do something like godzilla wakes up before kong leaves and respects him meaning like both communities shouldnt fight anymore.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaFeb-25-2020 11:10 AM

JurassicKaiju14,
"Wait, can they do that around here?"

Yes.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

dk

MemberGodzillaFeb-25-2020 1:02 PM

I would like kong to win, but if he wins he should knock out godzilla.

Losing doesn't have to mean death although it would be a very bold move for the movie makers to make.

It's hard to imagine one being killed. It could potentially end the franchise all together and forevermore enraging fans. 

Try to imagine if Kong kills Godzilla. When word gets out, Godzilla fans would probably boycott the movie and it would be a box office flop. Same goes if Kong is killed.

"One Will Fall"- that could mean anything including simple hype building. Let's just hope for a really good movie.

MechaniKong1223

MemberBaragonFeb-25-2020 3:08 PM

@dk i meant knocking out godzilla like making him sleep for some time

dk

MemberGodzillaFeb-25-2020 3:28 PM

MechaniKong1223 Understood. I don't think I took you out of context, but used your phrase as a spring board to another idea. 

Trash panda

MemberAnguirusMar-22-2020 9:30 PM

Hmm…I’m not sure who I’m rooting for. I went to Universal Studios Orlando and rode ”Skull Island: Reign of Kong” and I’m like torn between both. I guess we’ll have to wait to see the trailer(hopefully it comes out soon) and the movie.

Ah shit I’m using my wrong eye again. Sorry that was meant to be behind your back

Trash panda

MemberAnguirusMar-22-2020 9:32 PM

Also there was or still is an Instagram challenge of Team Godzilla vs Team Kong and I saw the trailer for it on YouTube 

Ah shit I’m using my wrong eye again. Sorry that was meant to be behind your back

Peter Zanetti

MemberMothra LarvaeSep-16-2020 7:56 PM

Obviously neither is going to “defeat” the other. They are both protagonists. That’s unchanging. They will fight sure. And then they will team up to defeat the antagonist, probably  Mecha-Ghidorah. 

Gabriel Salomon

MemberBaragonSep-17-2020 11:04 AM

Peter Zanetti

Yeah, this subject you bring up is something that just really perplexes me. The more I think about it, the more it hurts my brain. Despite the director confirming multiple times that there will be a definite winner, it really keeps looking more and more that there will be a team-up against a bigger threat (I'm thinking Mechagodzilla), and I have been vocal about how much I dislike that.

However, for a fat second I completely forgot I even made this topic back in Feb, and looking back at it, it hasn't aged too well for me if I'm being completely honest, lol. I still stand by my given reasons and speculations, but in the end I really don't want to make conclusions on a movie that's not even out yet, much less one that doesn't even have a trailer. It really frustrates me that so many people are doing this when there has been absolutely no ad campaign going on, and I don't want to take part in it. The only thing that stands between me and forming my own opinion on the movie is actually seeing the movie for myself.

"What’s so great about discovery? It’s a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world."

— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

monsterman

MemberMothra LarvaeNov-10-2020 8:34 AM

 I think Kong should lose, and Godzilla will defeat him.

monsterman

MemberMothra LarvaeNov-10-2020 8:35 AM

Or better yet, those 2 Titans should team up to destroy all evil.

goji85

MemberBaragonFeb-21-2021 2:23 AM

Im trying not to get mad

totally not monsterzero9,s alt account
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