What do you think the runtime for Godzilla Vs. Kong will be?

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-01-2021 1:27 PMYou guys should comment on this but for me, it's simple. For a monster movie with the scale and scope of Godzilla Vs. Kong, I think the runtime could run anywhere from 2 hours and 35 minutes to possibly 3 hours and 10 minutes. This movie has a lot to offer like the matchup itself, the Hollow Earth stuff, the mystery of Godzilla flipping sides, APEX, etc. I don't really believe the leaks that the movie will be under 2 hours, because that's baloney. Another possibility is that a leak said that the movie is two hours and 33 minutes. That's totally fair, but anyways it needs to be the longest MonsterVerse movie in order to jam all that story in...

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-02-2021 8:58 AMThere’s a reason why endgame was 3 hours

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-02-2021 9:05 AMsonictiger,
Indeed. It was three hours because the studio had very reasonable faith and metrics in a movie that was the culmination of 21 films which had been major successes at the box office and pulled over $18 Billion overall.
Godzilla vs. Kong is only the culmination of three movies that have only pulled in around $1.5 Billion and the last movie flopped at the box office.
The studio won't risk maximizing its profits by making it a 3 hour movie. I don't understand why the 1 hour and 53 minute runtime is so hard to believe.

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-02-2021 9:08 AMIt feels too big for 1hr and 53mins.
Tell me why that runtime is reasonable...

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-02-2021 9:10 AMI already have. Multiple times.

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-02-2021 9:12 AMOk, but I’m talking about the major plot points. How will it be resolved in less than two hours??

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-02-2021 9:14 AMThe same way most blockbusters resolve major plot points in less than two hours. Competent writing and pacing and delivering pertinent information in a timely manner.
None of which matters either way if the studio mandates a 2 hour runtime, because film is a business and they want it to make as much money as possible.

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-02-2021 9:21 AMI think the problem is I'm worrying about how the DCEU crashed and burned due to that under 2 hours mandate for Justice League. It would be totally fine if Godzilla Vs Kong was only 2 hours and 20 minutes. Point is, I feel like the MonsterVerse has been trying to avoid the DCEU's mistakes.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-02-2021 9:26 AMsonictiger,
No it just makes completely new mistakes...
The thing is every movie has a mandate forced on it. Studios tell directors to whittle down the run times of almost every single movie that's released. This is normal and it's part of the business. I guarantee you there's not a movie you've seen where producers haven't ordered directors and editors to cut the runtime down. Even Godzilla: King of the Monsters was originally over 3 hours. There was no way the studio was going to ever allow that.
It's especially true of less powerful directors. Big directors like Christopher Nolan or James Cameron can get away with longer movies because they have more power and money.
Adam Wingard, however, is a small director. He's only done a few low budget movies before Godzilla vs. Kong and isn't very well known. So it's likely any creative decision he's made has been the will of a producer.

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-02-2021 9:32 AMIf they do make a 3-hour MonsterVerse movie, it won't be for a while since a DAM movie would need about 5-7 years of buildup.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-02-2021 9:33 AMThey also need to be more successful in order to convince the studio a 3 hour movie could make enough money. Right now, they just don't make as much as Marvel. Not even close.
Frankly, I think this will be the last Monsterverse flick anyway. Which is fine.

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-02-2021 9:37 AMWB is honestly more worried about how people respond to their movies. Remember, they lost faith in Zack Snyder after people HATED Batman V. Superman. It had to take a whole fan campaign to get his Justice League to HBO Max.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-02-2021 12:20 PMsonictiger,
But that's not entirely true. WB suggested Snyder just release his cut unfinished to appease fans, because they didn't want to put any money into it. But Snyder rejected that idea and isn't even being paid for his cut of the movie, because he didn't want WB to tell him what to do.
Furthermore, HBOMax funded the completion of the Snyder Cut, not WB. It's been insinuated by Snyder that WB doesn't want anything to do with it, because they don't want to admit they were wrong about changing it. Furthermore, Snyder said WB has not been advertising it very well--Likely for this reason.
So no, WB does not care so much how people respond. Just like every studio, they care about money because money is what keeps the lights on and pays them.
The only reason Godzilla vs. Kong even got made after Godzilla: King of the Monsters flopped at the box office was because it was already in production. Rest assured, Godzilla vs. Kong probably would not have been made had it not already been filming when Godzilla: King of the Monsters came out. We got lucky.

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-02-2021 12:43 PMBut remember, after the reception of the god-awful Whedon-directed JL, WB totally changed their DC slate. They were also scared of critical reception.
Another example is, after the divisive response to Star Wars: The Last Jedi (which made over a billion dollars) Disney frantically tried to change The Rise Of Skywalker, which was almost ready to film. They fired Colin Trevorrow and brought back J.J Abrams, who wrote a completely new story and fans and critics were yet again divided.
Studios do care about what people think of their movies, regardless of how much money they make.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-02-2021 12:51 PMsonictiger,
Not saying they don't, but you have to remember that film is still a business. They want to make a "product" that satisfies, but it won't make a difference if it doesn't make money.

Djdndnejwnwn
MemberGiganMar-02-2021 12:52 PMSee? changing topic is a good thing for discussions
expecting the worst, sets you up for thr worst

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-02-2021 1:04 PMYeah, kinda glad that I got into this little debate. Otherwise it would've gotten boring.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-03-2021 8:25 AMI like how people here are not trusting a trustworthy source, but trusting the untrustworthy "source".
Man you guys are going to feel silly when you sit through a movie that's 1 hour and 53 minutes.

Djdndnejwnwn
MemberGiganMar-03-2021 9:21 AMOnly Some of us said that it wouldn’t be 1 hr 53.
Question, Who’s bringing the stopwatch to prove it
expecting the worst, sets you up for thr worst

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-03-2021 9:46 AMI agree with Harrison, but Gman had good points about allocine having a fine runtime

Gabriel Salomon
MemberBaragonMar-03-2021 10:38 AMI remember about a year ago, Adam Wingard dismissed the false three hour runtime on IMDb. His opposition to the runtime claim definitely suggests it is much shorter in reality.
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— Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park (1993)

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-03-2021 10:42 AMFrick

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-03-2021 11:42 AMAgain. This shouldn't be shocking. Studio's simply aren't going to let it be that long and AlloCine was right about the last three Monsterverse films.

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-03-2021 11:51 AM....Fine.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-09-2021 10:33 PMFandango.com is now also reporting the 1 hr, 53 min runtime.

sonictiger
MemberGiganMar-10-2021 8:54 AMOHHHH NOOOOOOO